Having a Top Striker

Isotope · Nov 29, 2020

Edinson Cavani.

So that how it feels, folks. It's been a while.
Please, no more fecking around with sub-par or inconsistent striker.

cyril C · Nov 29, 2020

There is not many #9 around in the world. Benzema, Lewandoski, and Harrland included, Suresh used to be there as well. Even Neymar, Griezmann and Mpabbe are half 9.

Judge Red · Nov 29, 2020

When are we signing Ronaldo? You don’t win anything with kids. Not this match against Southampton anyway.

el3mel · Nov 29, 2020

How have I missed a top class striker upfront, moving the movement of a top class striker, positioning himself in the places a top class striker will take, and heading like a top class striker.

Edinson fecking Cavani!!

Solius · Nov 29, 2020

Think we should be in for Haaland next summer and not Sancho. Need an elite striker.

jamesjimmybyrondean · Nov 29, 2020

I'm hoping Cavani keeps performing here till Haaland's release clause activates. There really are very few top strikers around so we need to be ready for the opportunity

Bastian · Nov 29, 2020

Makes all the difference. Finally we have balance there. Now a right winger and we look normally balanced. Hopefully Diallo slots in quick.

Isotope · Nov 29, 2020

cyril C said:
There is not many #9 around in the world. Benzema, Lewandoski, and Harrland included, Suresh used to be there as well. Even Neymar, Griezmann and Mpabbe are half 9.

Then we need to find one. It doesn't have to be a "star", but someone with a good and consistent track record. RvN, Suarez or Bruno like, proven best players in their League.

Kag · Nov 29, 2020

Yep. I really like Martial and Rashford but I’m coming round to the idea that we need a striker in the very near future. They wouldn’t have scored those strikery goals today.

It’s just a case of buying the right one, and this is where it gets tricky. The last time we bought a ‘proper’ striker was Lukaku and he was a stinking waste of space. The striker we buy needs to be able to play football.

Isotope · Nov 29, 2020

Solius said:
Think we should be in for Haaland next summer and not Sancho. Need an elite striker.

I doubt he'll come to us, unless we're back as top team. But strange things happen in life.

Suvvernmanc · Nov 29, 2020

What Cavani did today and tries to do every time he plays by moving in the box, trying to find space for a tap in or a header, Martial will never do. It's not in his game. Hes better playing off the left and dribbling with the ball. And he should probably go back to rotating with Rashford until Cavani needs a rest.

Greck · Nov 29, 2020

Been waiting for this guy to explode when the club was getting pelted for not emptying the coffers on Sancho. He clearly isn't washed up. Next up, VDB. Depth signings in a condensed season is always the wise choice. In fact he's now a first team signing

Isotope · Nov 29, 2020

Kag said:
Yep. I really like Martial and Rashford but I’m coming round to the idea that we need a striker in the very near future. They wouldn’t have scored those strikery goals today.

It’s just a case of buying the right one, and this is where it gets tricky. The last time we bought a ‘proper’ striker was Lukaku and he was a stinking waste of space. The striker we buy needs to be able to play football.

Lukaku was a "proper" striker in his first season. So much potential there. Until Mou decided to turned him into Drogba, and Lukaku decided to get fat.

GueRed · Nov 29, 2020

yeah but Martial just needs time Mourinho killed him.... :rolleyes:

El Jefe · Nov 29, 2020

Its been so clear that we've been lacking a top class striker. Rashford and Martial never score those two chances Cavani put away. Martial wouldn't have even reacted to the balls.

It's an absolute must that we bring in a proper striker that not only has great anticipation and strikers instincts but can also hold the ball up n bring others into play.

GueRed · Nov 29, 2020

Isotope said:
Lukaku was a "proper" striker in his first season. Until Mou decided to turned him into Drogba.

There's quotes somewhere Lukaku saying he didnt want to be at United early on

so Jose tried for a CF (Mandzukic one heavily linked name) in summer 2018

bosnian_red · Nov 29, 2020

It makes such a difference. Martial is a very good player, Rashford is a very good player, but neither are natural strikers who will always find that space in the box, neither will always be sniffing for a goal, both like getting on the ball outside of the box and link it around. We need that natural goalscorer who will score goals in any sort of game and it makes such a difference against smaller teams especially. Greenwood is the one who I hope/think can turn into that. Young though, will get there but needs patience.

el3mel · Nov 29, 2020

Isotope said:
Lukaku was a "proper" striker in his first season. So much potential there. Until Mou decided to turned him into Drogba, and Lukaku decided to get fat.

Cavani is ten times the player Lukaku is, no comparison.

Isotope · Nov 29, 2020

GueRed said:
There's quotes somewhere Lukaku saying he didnt want to be at United early on

so Jose tried for a CF (Mandzukic one heavily linked name) in summer 2018

That's a bit rich for a striker from Everton. Although Mandzukic wasn't a prolific striker either, but he's fit the Drogba profile Mou was looking for.

bosnian_red · Nov 29, 2020

El Jefe said:
Its been so clear that we've been lacking a top class striker. Rashford and Martial never score those two chances Cavani put away. Martial wouldn't have even reacted to the balls.

It's an absolute must that we bring in a proper striker that not only has great anticipation and strikers instincts but can also hold the ball up n bring others into play.

Cavani for 2 years until Greenwood is more mature and ready to slot in.

bosnian_red · Nov 29, 2020

Kag said:
Yep. I really like Martial and Rashford but I’m coming round to the idea that we need a striker in the very near future. They wouldn’t have scored those strikery goals today.

It’s just a case of buying the right one, and this is where it gets tricky. The last time we bought a ‘proper’ striker was Lukaku and he was a stinking waste of space. The striker we buy needs to be able to play football.

We have Cavani for 2 years (if we don't extend past that 1 year), by which time Greenwood will be 21 and more ready to step up as a regular. Guy will be best as a poacher goalscorer rather than on the wing.

Judas · Nov 29, 2020

He has shone a huge bright light on what we've desperately been lacking. We've all known it, he's just made it blatantly obvious. He's quality, I hope he can stay fit and we use him wisely, but honestly we could do with him in every game.

Van Piorsing · Nov 29, 2020

Took a manager who was a striker to finally bring an impact striker.

This club sometimes needs a solid kick in the c*nt to wake the F up.

cyril C · Nov 29, 2020

Isotope said:
Then we need to find one. It doesn't have to be a "star", but someone with a good and consistent track record. RvN, Suarez or Bruno like, proven best players in their League.

We spent half a decade trying to find a right winger, end up with Sanchez, Mata. In fact, Mata still function somewhat. Right now no less than 6 top clubs in the world are searching for #9, better chance in converting McTom into a #9.

Isotope · Nov 29, 2020

el3mel said:
Cavani is ten times the player Lukaku is, no comparison.

Well of course. But Lukaku was just entering his peak when he joined in. I'd say under a good coach like SAF, he'd develop and more of well-rounded player. But yeh.. it's all conjecture.

Lentwood · Nov 29, 2020

How the world’s biggest football club hasn’t had a proper CF for years is beyond criminal.
The problem with Rashford and Martial is that they are not natural goalscorers, they are scorers of good goals.

Neither of them would have scored either of Cavani’s goals...so you’re talking about 0pts instead of 3

morbidsaint · Nov 29, 2020

It is really interesting to see the big difference between an actual #9 striker and players like Martial and Rashford. Both really good footballers, but they will never be a stiker like Cavani. Our main target for future transfer windows should 100% be a #9 striker. Intil then, Cavani leads the way!

The_Midfielder · Nov 29, 2020

Halland was the big miss.. not Sancho

Johnson Yip · Nov 29, 2020

I would go as far to say that we finally have a proper striker in this team who can score the pure striker's goals.

SinNombre · Nov 29, 2020

Lentwood said:
How the world’s biggest football club hasn’t had a proper CF for years is beyond criminal.

Most big teams don't have one right now. Technically proficient strikers are hard to come by.

GMoore23 · Nov 29, 2020

Such an important player for us this season. I just hope Ole doesn't run him into the ground now. He's 34 in February after all and with a shitload of miles on the clock.

Isotope · Nov 29, 2020

cyril C said:
We spent half a decade trying to find a right winger, end up with Sanchez, Mata. In fact, Mata still function somewhat. Right now no less than 6 top clubs in the world are searching for #9, better chance in converting McTom into a #9.

Chelsea had a free run on Zyech, top consistent RW on his League. So it's actually not that difficult, with a proper scout.

SinNombre · Nov 29, 2020

morbidsaint said:
It is really interesting to see the big difference between an actual #9 striker and players like Martial and Rashford. Both really good footballers, but they will never be a stiker like Cavani. Our main target for future transfer windows should 100% be a #9 striker. Intil then, Cavani leads the way!

It is not an either/or.

Rashford and Martial are both excellent players and especially in the case of Rashford, with more growth to come (Rashford scored more goals at 22 than Cavani at the same age). They are better off as wingforwards or as part of a front 2 and haven't shown they can be the single #9 in a front 3 consistently.

el3mel · Nov 29, 2020

Isotope said:
Well of course. But Lukaku was just entering his peak when he joined in. I'd say under a good coach like SAF, he'd develop and more of well-rounded player. But yeh.. it's all conjecture.

Don't think Lukaku would have ever reached Cavani level in general. He's obviously a good striker, but Cavani is just another quality all around.

hanovercigars · Nov 29, 2020

It's almost as if Sir Alex knew what he was doing buying all those strikers instead of midfielders. Ole and Woodward need to learn more from him.

matherto · Nov 29, 2020

We thought Martial and Rashford had good to great years last season but just watching Cavani’s sheer alertness and movement in and around the box makes you forget just what a big difference it makes.

Chicharito was never a great player technically but his movement got him so many goals. Cavani IS a great player technically and has the movement to match.

I’d never seen him play well because he always flattered to deceive in big games but the numbers don’t lie over a season playing all types of teams. He’ll win us games that we never would’ve won otherwise just like today.

Ace of Spades · Nov 29, 2020

The_Midfielder said:
Halland was the big miss.. not Sancho

Exactly, goals win you games, and usually it is CFs who get you goals consistently. Not a lot of quality CFs around, so if Haaland becomes available, we should do everything to get him.

Bwuk · Nov 29, 2020

He’s a much better striker than Rashford or Martial, who are both more forwards than a striker.

Hope he can handle the 2 games a week schedule for us.

Silverman · Nov 29, 2020

Why we should go all out for Haaland imo. You need a clinical striker up front.

el3mel · Nov 29, 2020

Bwuk said:
He’s a much better striker than Rashford or Martial, who are both more forwards than a striker.

Hope he can handle the 2 games a week schedule for us.

I'll rest him in all cup games and start him only in the league.

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