Lampard and fitness team on it, hopefully they'll sort it with special fitness program. Always remember Robben continually injured for us, then when went to Bayern never got injured at all. Some players you just need to find the right way to look after them.
Bit of a bogey ground for us. Will be a welcome 3 point if indeed we win.
Robben was still injured quite a bit at Bayern, but he spoke at lengths about having his own bespoke training and conditioning regime created for him which allowed him to have the career that he had. I think Van Persie had a similar thing at Arsenal. This might be the answer for Pulisic, because the list of injuries he's had is ridiculously long and he's only 22.
Oh you! Such a fibber.
We almost always lose at Everton - probably our biggest bogey fixture by some distance. Agreed that Havertz was very poor - he misplaced about 5 passes in the first half hour by not weighting them correctly and generally looked a bit at sea on the right wing. That said, he's historically always started seasons slowly and is still quite young, so I'm optimistic he'll come good. I don't think he's been done too many favours by being played in 3 different positions this season so far as well.
He's recovering from an illness that caused you and numerous others to call for football to be halted indefinitely, and unlike most footballers he didn't get it asymptomatically.
Sorry was it £70 odd mil? Either way he's a mega signing and really looks overpriced at this juncture.
I think you're right about the different positions. I did raise a few points about the amount of money and duplication of positions you filled in the summer. It feels as though at times Frank is just trying to fit everyone in rather than picking the best team in its best position so to speak. Is a headache for sure.
Yeah loads of people have had Covid. Not sure what your point is tbh. I can see that making players tire quickly but that's not the issue with Havertz. He just looks a bit, er rubbish?
Apology accepted.
He's spent less than Ole. Give them man a break!
Yeah he said it completely wiped him out, and he could barely get through a training session with feeling like death upon return
Bit of a myth really that.
I'm only being semi serious and not so much having a go at lampard who I think is doing a good job, as pointing out the depth of hypocrisy of some posters
The spending thing is a myth though.
Ok then let's ignore Covid for the sake of the argument. He's 4 months into a new country, new league at the age of 21, to put it in layman's terms for one Bruno Fernandes or Thiago Silva there's ten Evra's, Henry's and Drogba's.
That's fine but you've paid a premium which demands a ready made player. He's cost between £70-80m. Its mega money. It looks like you've drastically over paid.
To be fair, he had a pretty bad case - many players have been asymptomatic and Havertz in contrast suffered. From my personal experience having had it, I'm still coughing and short of full breath a month afterwards whilst my wife and kids have escaped unscathed.
That Is wildly inaccurate. We territorially dominate most games metric wise under Lampard while Arsenal tend to be dominated, create little and concede numerous chances relying on Leno/Emi to bail them out.
Circumstantial. We played like that today. Everton were very compact down the middle.
You did it quite a lot against Spurs too.
I'm referring to chance creation rather than possession. When unlocking teams it looks like Lampard and Arteta have the same go-to manoeuvre. Of course I'd expect the team with a midfield of Kante/Kovacic/Jorginho to generally dominate games relative to the one with Xakha-Elneny-Partey.
For me it's an issue of lacking any sort of creativity out wide, given we were missing all 3 of the first team wingers. Given that context it's not surprising we lacked ideas from those sorts of positions. Spurs did far more to shoehorn us into resorting to crossing given they were defending with a 6 man backline.
Edit, only Liverpool (1 more) have scored more goals than Chelsea in the league. Chance creation is not really an issue this season.
Yeah, this is fair enough. I can imagine there being a much bigger dimension to your attack when Pulisic and Ziyech are on the pitch.
Yeah, I agree that we were disappointing but at the same time, chance creating from wide areas simply has never been a strength of Werner or Havertz - both are the sorts to get on the end of chances rather than create them. For me it was a case of square pegs in round holes across the whole frontline this evening.
I'm saying from games I've seen they tend to come from chances out wide. Obviously you'll score more goals when you have Reece James putting them on a plate
I just don't like the making excuses. As I say it's not fatigue that he seems to be struggling with. He can't string passes together let alone much else. He just doesn't seem anything like the mega price tag. Maybe he'll grow into it but surely you don't punt that amount on a player?
He's an 8 who we were told can do a job out wide. He doesn't seem that capable of playing multiple positions from what I've seen.
Sure, I can appreciate that view - that said, I think he's pretty clearly dealing with fatigue issues given he's coming off after 60-65 minutes and isn't running as much as he did pre-COVID, but this should be considered separately from his performance in the first 20 minutes tonight when he couldn't weight a pass correctly.
This nonsense.
Bernardo?
