Teden Mengi Attitude on Hugging/Laughing with Opposition is a breath of fresh air

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People change as society change. If you go back to the 70s - people were even more robust, they played injured - they sacrificed everything to win the ball - but they had many advantages todays footballers dont have:
a) It wasn't mentally as tough to play football - you didn't have fans slaughtering them on social media, newspaper ridiculing them - and few matches were shown live on tv.
b) You didn't have live like a professional to compete. Even in the 80s there were several players who were partying at best, being alcoholics at work - despite being among the best in the country. Today - you have to live, think and play football 24/7 or you end up not having a career.

Roy Keane's winning mentality would have seen him sent off 5 matches each season in 2020. Whereas in 1970 - he would be nothing special in terms of being a hardman and a "winner" - and yes few players would have accepted being punched or harrassed in the dressing room by Roy Keane in 2020
Only weaker player would accept it, when the locker room is full of quick-tempered guys you end up with the FC Hollywood version of Bayern Munich. It's hilarious from the outside but it must be a pain when you have to deal with a bunch of lunatics.
 

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So after reading into what Teden Mengi said to his teammate after the heavy defeat last week on instagram it is a breath of fresh air that some youngsters still have some integrity of club football when it comes to the opposition.
Yeah I love this. Off the pitch, be with who you want, but once you're at the ground you're going to war. We seem to have that kind of fire in the likes of Rashford, McTominay and Bruno, hopefully we'll see more like Mengi coming through too
 

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After what he has shown this season - not even close. He has taken a huge step back from his performances last season.
I think it’s natural that this season he’d find more of a struggle! He’s made massive strides playing well above his age group and even getting first team minutes. He’s got to find the inner motivation and drive now to keep knocking on the door!
 

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People change as society change. If you go back to the 70s - people were even more robust, they played injured - they sacrificed everything to win the ball - but they had many advantages todays footballers dont have:
a) It wasn't mentally as tough to play football - you didn't have fans slaughtering them on social media, newspaper ridiculing them - and few matches were shown live on tv.
b) You didn't have live like a professional to compete. Even in the 80s there were several players who were partying at best, being alcoholics at work - despite being among the best in the country. Today - you have to live, think and play football 24/7 or you end up not having a career.

Roy Keane's winning mentality would have seen him sent off 5 matches each season in 2020. Whereas in 1970 - he would be nothing special in terms of being a hardman and a "winner" - and yes few players would have accepted being punched or harrassed in the dressing room by Roy Keane in 2020
Players accepted that because they had no choice. Pre Bosman ruling meant that the club owned them and could ruin them.
 

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Would carry a bit more weight if he wasn't so useless himself.
 

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Mejbri was the best United player on the pitch IMO against Chelsea and it should be him who should be angry with Mengi who almost single handedly gifted Chelsea the win with a awful performance.
 

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Yeah I love this. Off the pitch, be with who you want, but once you're at the ground you're going to war. We seem to have that kind of fire in the likes of Rashford, McTominay and Bruno, hopefully we'll see more like Mengi coming through too
Like mengi, you mean you want more players who crap the bed in the actual match and then blame the result on others for innocuous things over social media, not even doing it face to face.

Pretty sure neither mctominay nor rashford are like that, bruno had a bust up with lindelof on field but brushed it off when it came up in media. How exactly are they like this little primadonna?
 

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Mengi should be less occupied with his enemies and more worried about actually playing football. He’s been crap all season.

Fish is a better player and a better captain.
 

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The reason I love it is because Hannibal suffers from the same egocentrism that has plagued Neymar throughout his career. Bags of potential but thinks it’s Hannibal show. That post he made was just a classic post for validation amongst peers - it’s what he values over team performance.

hannibal will never step foot in the first team with that kind of personality.

He can either use this as a learning opportunity to grow in maturity or forever be condemned to his garbage character.
 

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I see this as the Caf's latest attempt to prove that Mejbri and Mengi are indeed different human beings but it won't be that easy to fool me.
 

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Don't see the issue if I'm honest.

Boxers beat the brakes off each other for 12 rounds and then hug it out after the fight. But "hardman" football fans and pundits want players to scrap it out in the tunnel after the game.
 

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This is 100% posturing. Playing to the audience of chumps in our fanbase that eat this sort of crap up.

Publicly criticizing your teammate is 100% worse for team chemistry and mentality than posting a picture laughing with someone from an opposing team.
 

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Things like this almost irritates me. Teden Mengi who was the worst player on the pitch, whose performance was so crap he should have been taken off the pitch after 10 minutes - attacks Hannibal who was miles better, and actually looked like he wanted to win the game.

Mengi gave Chelsea 2 goals after 3 minutes of football, maybe next time he should focus on his own performance rather than attack Hannibal. We didn't lose the game because we were too friendly - we lost the game because Mengi showed zero focus when the game started

Are you a real person?
 

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The reason I love it is because Hannibal suffers from the same egocentrism that has plagued Neymar throughout his career. Bags of potential but thinks it’s Hannibal show. That post he made was just a classic post for validation amongst peers - it’s what he values over team performance.

hannibal will never step foot in the first team with that kind of personality.

He can either use this as a learning opportunity to grow in maturity or forever be condemned to his garbage character.
You didn't think this through did you? So Neymar suffers from this, yet is one of the best players in the world.


In any case, I don't like that Mengi said this on social media. Firstly, the point is dumb because we didn't lose for that reason and it's not like Mejbri is friendly with the opposition during the game. He actually always fights against the other team and loses his temper too much. If anything he needs to dial that back. He's actually too passionate during the game and he gets wound up too easily during the game. Hell, some of us even call it childish rage (not a compliment). There are plenty of criticisms you can aim at Mejbri like the one I just listed. Another one is that his work rate (which he has a lot of unlike a Pogba type) is that it's immature and needs to be coached to properly do defensive work as opposed to just running around a lot at other times.

Gomes, Tuanzebe, and Pearson never said this as captains that I can remember. I remember Januzaj posting similar pictures, but I guess the difference was that we won more during that time. But that just goes against Mengi's point.

I feel like Mengi is frustrated at his own performances and because of that he has to project passion to make up for his poor performances. If you have a problem with a teammate, just take it up to him in person. All Mengi did was cause a media spectacle, cause some rift in the locker room, and divide fans on this very issue. That's anti-captain like. But I guess I'm more of a believer in Fergie's way of doing things, where he liked to keep things in house.
 
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The reason I love it is because Hannibal suffers from the same egocentrism that has plagued Neymar throughout his career. Bags of potential but thinks it’s Hannibal show. That post he made was just a classic post for validation amongst peers - it’s what he values over team performance.

hannibal will never step foot in the first team with that kind of personality.

He can either use this as a learning opportunity to grow in maturity or forever be condemned to his garbage character.
This is an awful awful post.
 

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Doing this kind of thing on social media isn't very productive imo. Could easily be viewed as virtue signalling.
 

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The reason I love it is because Hannibal suffers from the same egocentrism that has plagued Neymar throughout his career. Bags of potential but thinks it’s Hannibal show. That post he made was just a classic post for validation amongst peers - it’s what he values over team performance.

hannibal will never step foot in the first team with that kind of personality.

He can either use this as a learning opportunity to grow in maturity or forever be condemned to his garbage character.
Wow, the guys character is already in question. Mate, you don't even know him.
 

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Wow, the guys character is already in question. Mate, you don't even know him.
The same guy you quoted also said this about Bailly
By far our best defender. His acceleration puts him as one of the best defenders in the league. A shame he has no professionalism when it comes to injury prevention
Either he is crazy or he has information on players we don't :lol:
 

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Mejbri has a lot of faults as a footballer - but to call him stupid ?
Many very talented 17 year olds are pretty stupid, and that goes beyond being a footballer. He is a kid and will get a pass for being stupid, we all were at some point. As I said he makes himself a target for online abuse by fickle fans unnecessarily.
 

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Again how is winning mentality mutually exclusive from being friendly with your opponent before the game.

Plenty of city and liverpool players share a laugh and a hug pre/post game with their opponents. Seems to not affect them from winning what's so special about utd ones that unless they started being meaner and more detached they can't.
Is the point so hard to spot? It's not about being friendly while having winning mentality, you can do that while also being very sensible and not post pictures after getting thrashed and humiliated while wearing the club's kit. Nobody will bat an eye if we won, they got humiliated.
 

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Share a hug or laugh with opponents after the match is no big deal, some of our players even enjoy holding a cool swag party full of Icelandic girls during their free time with his mates from rival clubs.
 

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All of what you say is true. But if the modern day footballer takes the game just as a "job", what will keep the fans invested in their teams? I'll be honest, I've almost completely lost interest in football, my connection to Manchester United is the only thing left. And it is precisely because football nowadays seems more like "get the job done and let's go home in our millionaire mansions". I don't even get excited by matches anymore, I watch our games due to the habit.
Their addiction, fans love their clubs and players no matter what.
 

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Is the point so hard to spot? It's not about being friendly while having winning mentality, you can do that while also being very sensible and not post pictures after getting thrashed and humiliated while wearing the club's kit. Nobody will bat an eye if we won, they got humiliated.
But he posted the picture 2 weeks after the game, no one should have an issue over a pre game photo uploaded 2 weeks after the result or is everyone suppose to wallow in defeat for years to come or may be he should show his winning mentality by doing what mengi did and try to shift blame from himself to others because nothing shows winning mentality like blaming an attacking midfielder for 6 goals conceded when you are the cb and were directly at fault for atleast first 2 if not 3 goals.
 

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Is the point so hard to spot? It's not about being friendly while having winning mentality, you can do that while also being very sensible and not post pictures after getting thrashed and humiliated while wearing the club's kit. Nobody will bat an eye if we won, they got humiliated.
It was 10 days after the result. And the point makes no sense either because Mejbri is the least friendly player on the pitch. He's always getting tackled, always has workrate, and always arguing with the opposition (from his antics and after getting tackled). He does it so much he really needs to stop it. It hinders his game and can get annoying.

The point is that Mengi said we don't win for that reason as if it's affecting his performance on the pitch. Apart from Mengi costing us the match within a few minutes, Mejbri is not friendly to opposition during the match. He's the opposite of that. So if those 2 things are true, and they are, then why did Mengi post that on social media? All he did was take away his part in the defeat and put the blame on Mejbri. How is acting like Mourinho a captain like mentality?
 

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I didn’t see the game, but keeps reading here that Mengi in fact was in fault for several goals, whilst Hannibal actually played a good game. That’s fair, but really not the point as I see it. It’s a prinsiple and for good reason. I think it has nothing to do at all with nostalgia. A former United player (think it was Paddy Crerand), said that some Liverpool players often went out with United players in Manchester during the 60s because Manchester had better nightlife than Liverpool. The main difference was back then there was no social media. I think Hannibal’s post provoked Mengi who felt let down by it. Of course it sounds stupid, blaming friendship for the loss, when you’re having a shocker yourself, but see his point. Should have been kept behind close doors though. Think Hannibal took it well. Hope they can use this to gather and drive forward instead of splitting up. It’s part of a learning process, and as some people states: You don’t see this kind of things on the pitch with Liverpool players under Klopp and it’s no coincidence.
 
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Passion and commitment in team sports should be a given. Appreciating seing a countryman when abroad is equally natural. A call for more siege mentality may be what's needed in this case. Lets hope it helps the young boys, not divide them.
 

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The idea that players can’t be friends with opposition players and still give their all on the pitch is very silly.
I agree with this but I also loved it when they all hated each other, like the old-school United-Arsenal matches.
 

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Many very talented 17 year olds are pretty stupid, and that goes beyond being a footballer. He is a kid and will get a pass for being stupid, we all were at some point. As I said he makes himself a target for online abuse by fickle fans unnecessarily.
I am sure they are - but you wouldn't have a clue if he is one of them. A lot of people make fun of Rooney for being stupid, but as Sven Goran Eriksson once said about him - that it's impossible to pick the passes he can, and be stupid. Uneducated yes - stupid no.
 

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If you have a problem with the attitude of a team-mate then your own performance must be on a good level......Mengi with another terrible performance for the Reserve-team against Leicester (By the way Mejbri with a good performance)......Mengi is lucky that we don't have currently available many defenders because otherwise he wouldn't even play for the Reserve-team :mad: