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Cavani gets 3 match ban from FA for his social media post
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Damn, it's true you know. It's best if we carted him off to Eibar and forget this whole sordid affair.
Not really I guess. It has to first be charged under the "bringing game to disrepute" clause and then this is on top of it.
This excellent summary gets right to the heart of it.
To be offended by Cavani's tweet you would have to be have to be clever enough to translate it into English and ignorant enough to misunderstand its meaning.
It sounds very random
That's the idea
PerfectWhereas i argue we have a dystopian society without equality.
There is an test:
“...On Friday, Uruguay's Academia Nacional de Letras said the words "negro" or its diminutive "negrito" -- similar to "gordo" (fatso) or "gordito" and "flaco" (skinny one) -- are commonly used as terms of endearment...“
Next time you’re out use the words fatso etc.. Yes, some will smile and say you’re being a bit cheeky, others will be offended..
Trigger is problematic......
The FA trying best to cover their own faults. Not even hiding their dislike of our club. I guess some things never change.
Cavani broke some ridiculous rule and got ban. We have to accept it as funny and wierd it is.
Remember when the FA had to decide on this and a 3 person panel let him off 2-1.
Wonder why
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/amp/football/47946382
Wonder why
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/amp/football/47946382
Regarding your "test", if you think this is how Cavani conducted himself, or more cynically how people in South America conduct themselves in general, which your post seems to imply, then I can't help you.
The point being comments can be a term of endearment in the UK; they're also insulting. I find it very odd that there is an assumption they cannot be insulting. It is irrelevant how Cavani conducted himself. If you called someone fatso in the UK you might offend a friend of that person and they might give you a slap. Most seem to ignore that reality.
If you think it wasn't his intent and that is enough, then i cannot help you. It's not about him it's about others..
What happens when you call your friend Gordon, Gordo?
None of what you described is what Cavani did.
Your test is saying the following: "to see if thing A is bad, do different thing B and see the results..." It makes no sense.
I chose not to use the other word; the principle is the same.
The FA accepted his claim 'negrito' was a friend's lifelong nickname but STILL banned him for three games for 'racist' Instagram post
Unbelievable. What a bunch of idiots.
Unbelievable. What a bunch of idiots.
Yeah , that summarises the FA perfectly.
Roibal is a fecking idiot.
IMHO the once racists countries has turned into “we are better than the under developed countries and we can teach them even if they don’t want”
That’s the FA attitude when they recognize that Cavani wasn’t racist but he didnt follow the new british way of doing things
As many poster said it clearly “if you are in England is our way or the highway”. Properly forgetting that england was one of the major enslavers countries in history.
Go teach your ancestors, and in the process, return the spoils. Like 80 percent of the “British
museum”I don't seem to recall anyone from Uruguay ever going this far to defend Luis Suarez.
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Well apparently being in your early thirties and from the UK, and not knowing doing the Nazi salute is offensive because 'you don't know who Adolf Hitler is' is more reasonable than being from another country, and using a word in your own language that has no translation in to English but looks like another word that is potentially offensive.
That said, the FA board members probably had friends or family members in the aristocracy who supported the Nazis.
What I find interesting is this notion of the 'New British Way' of doing things. When exactly did it become established that this is how the British public want society to work? I'm certainly not subscribed to this way of thinking and based on what I've seen there is likely a vast number who are less open-minded on this than I am. The mindset is riddled with inconsistencies. For example seemingly any phrase with race-connotations appears to be intolerable and yet Western rap culture, for example, features the worst word of the lot (an English word, no less) and it does so regularly. Either accept that context and intent is an important factor in all cases (common sense), or have some consistency and stop the word altogether (draconian, but consistent at least). Currently there's a large amount of hypocrisy and numerous witch hunts, too.
Common sense should have seen this story end as soon as Cavani apologised and removed the post. It's debatable whether he should even be expected to do that, but you'd start to question whether he was at least a bit of a dick were he not to do it having been made aware that it may offend people, or if people made it clear he had offended them. But to believe significant punishment is necessary for someone who has unintentionally offended complete strangers while addressing his friend, having already removed the post and apologised willingly, is an indication of a woke mindset.
The example for comparison that always springs to mind to me is Sasha Johnson, who appears to have continued blissfully fighting the good fight despite being filmed earlier this year aggressively calling someone a 'coon' (slightly at odds with her message, no?). Not much media outrage over that (except by those pesky right-wingers, of course) and no punishment to speak of, yet this Cavani incident and similar simply cannot stand? Doesn't quite add up imo.
Because what Luis Suarez did was racist
Exactly, which is why I'm baffled when there are people who still try to equate Cavani's actions with Suarez's.
Oh, ok. Indeed
Yeah, I was trying to goad the people who aren't willing to treat this case differently from Suarez's.
Well done, you go straight on my ignore list.
That's nonsense, you can't just throw around racism accusations with nothing to back them up. Can you show what in my posts is racist?
First of all I'm black and not even British. At no point in my post did I demean Uruguayan society in favor of the British either. In terms of cruelty and crimes against humanity, I would agree that their ruling class is up there among the worst.
I simply refused to take negrito as a term of endearment. As I'm not part of your culture, I go with the literal translation of 'little black/blackie' and I would take issue with anyone who used it with me. El negro jefe on the other hand is cool and perfectly fine with me.
So Cavani, who doesn't speak English, should have been fully aware of what the British press and fanblogs had to say about it? All those years ago while he was playing at Napoli? Most people outside the UK hardly spent 5 minutes mulling over it.
Who does translations for the FA? Tévez?
Indeed, it's the aggravated breach which requires a ban. They state clearly he is not racist, wasn't being racist, accept tge use of the term was friendly and that the recipient is indeed white but has been called negrito for years.
It clearly states express or implied, they demonstrate themselves that it is neither. But somehow they choose to make it up as they go along stating it is still an aggravated breach because someone, somewhere, who doesn't speak Spanish and is not in full possession of all these facts, could have regarded it as such.
Considering the world is packed with morons with zero reading comprehension and making translations like that bullfighter one, players may as well shut down their social media accounts altogether.
Yeah, I always wondered which are supposed to be the "bad nations". Could it go as far as not calling Irish players "paddy"? Probably the other one that rhymes with it, but it's left wide open really.
You are missing the very basic point that terms of endearment are not used with strangers
Don't worry, nobody would use it with you as you are a complete stranger. People don't use terms of endearment with strangers.
The intro to the film makes a compelling argument, then it all turns to shitFecking hell.
Does butting into a conversation you weren't part of with condescension make you feel important or something? Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question
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