SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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This is why i want the Mail to go bust.
Tug end hat.
I have a theory that every single Tory was bullied at school and there’s plenty of circumstantial evidencesuggesting nay, proving, I am right.
I have a theory that every single Tory was bullied at school and there’s plenty of circumstantial evidence
his budget curry cost 22quid apparently.
Are you insinuating this is a lot?
Central Brisbane yesterday.
3 day lockdown while we contract trace all the contacts of the quarantine hotel worker who was infected with the new UK variant. 175 contacts have been traced and 112 tested negative so far with the rest waiting on results.
The NSW outbreak seems in its final stage with only 3 new cases - all close contacts of known infections.
3 day lockdown while we contract trace all the contacts of the quarantine hotel worker who was infected with the new UK variant. 175 contacts have been traced and 112 tested negative so far with the rest waiting on results.
The NSW outbreak seems in its final stage with only 3 new cases - all close contacts of known infections.
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I’m not sure how people manage to live in Brisbane. I was there last year (I actually posted on pg 1 of this thread expressing reservations at flying through Taiwan on the way there) and it just the most brutally humid place I have ever been. The city doesn’t really compare with other Aussie cities eitherCentral Brisbane yesterday.
I didn't find it skewed. What benefit would a wee gap at the bottom make? Each data set runs against the same axis (if we're talking about the same graph) and all years remain visible. I don't see the issue.
As an aside, I'm a professional analyst and often compare data sets on axes that don't start at 0, so I imagine I'd do your head in.
Brisbane isn't anywhere near as hot or humid as further North on average. I lived in Townsville for nearly a decade and there are only a couple of months where it is too hot/humidity and 4 then you live in air-conditioning and a pool is great to have.
That said I don't like Brisbane. It is the AU capital city I'd least like to live in. Possibly tied with Darwin.
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Starting at 0 can make the data much harder to read.
Something vaguely covid related that made me smile this morning. My son is at Uni in the US and his sports team are about to start a shortened and delayed season. As part of that they have to live within a team bubble and get a covid test weekly. He sent us the results this morning which were "mostly good news" the cheeky fecker.
Ha!!
Your son testing HIV positive made you smile?
Was that a joke from him? Or is he actually HIV positive?
It’s obviously a joke!
So, one of my work colleagues had the virus. Had symptoms, took a test, self isolated. Stopped having symptoms after a week. All is good.
But like the majority of the idiots in this country he doesn't have a clue about the rules and decided to take a test after the isolation period was up. And of course he came back positive.
He was then contacted by track and trace and was outright told "you didn't need to take a test, you had no reason to so that, but now you have tested positive you have to self isolate for another 10 days."
He's self employed so hopefully that will cost him some.
I think you are worrying over nothing Wilford.you are only meant to take a test *when you have symptoms* (or in other specific situations).
Not when you come into contact with someone with the virus.
Not when a family member gets the virus.
Not when you want to go back to work.
If you have symptoms and you test positive that's two pieces of evidence you have the virus, not just one.
The far far far bigger problem is no one understands the rules
Also, unless I'm getting it wrong, even if the PCR tests are sensitive enough to detect dead fragments, it'll affect how people react/isolate after the result.. it can result in people isolating/going through some unnecessary stress and others getting contact notifications .. but it wont artificially inflate the case numbers. .
If you test positive, you almost certainly have it or have had it in the very recent past.
So I dont think the PCR tests detecting dead fragments hides the true case numbers. If you dont have symptoms, you are still not going to the hospital .
If you test positive, you almost certainly have it or have had it in the very recent past.
So I dont think the PCR tests detecting dead fragments hides the true case numbers. If you dont have symptoms, you are still not going to the hospital .
Yes - a crap joke
It was a joke. Rather obviously.
So...
I ask the caf.
I it not time the UK Government update their symptoms list
Should not anyone who has a cough/cold/snotty nose/gastric issue have to stay home and book a test now?
It seems ridiculous that they are only looking for a "new continuous cough," a "loss of taste and smell," or a high temperature.
Someone at work had a "head cold" and tested positive on an asymptomatic test
I ask the caf.
I it not time the UK Government update their symptoms list
Should not anyone who has a cough/cold/snotty nose/gastric issue have to stay home and book a test now?
It seems ridiculous that they are only looking for a "new continuous cough," a "loss of taste and smell," or a high temperature.
Someone at work had a "head cold" and tested positive on an asymptomatic test
I do think the symptoms list needs updating. The number of people who now report - headache, and then headcold, loss of appetite/gastric upset as their main symptoms is increasing.
I do wonder how much of this new mutation's extra spreading capability might come down to the symptoms changing rather than its transmissibility as such.
That said - the testing system is already under massive strain so I doubt it can handle everyone who has a cold as well.
But we have these rapid tests! Rapid tests that work on people with symptoms but basically do not work on the asymptomatic
One can come up with one's own system of using PCR and lateral flow but I don't think there is anyway we should be letting people with symptoms other than the"three" walk about at this point
Arguably though - that's the point of a lockdown. You're not just walking about.
Testing people with the rapid tests who are going into work - with/without symptoms is maybe viable. I don't know how many of those tests they have - but if they can get them into factories, warehouses etc then most larger employers (even if they just have a qualified first aider, or safety officer on site) could be instructed to use them.
Have you ever been diagnosed with a mental condition?
Has anyone got any statistics on how many total fatalities per age group in the UK.
There's data for England here
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Thanks.
No but my wife thinks that I might be on the spectrum
Your reasoning may be confusing for some because you raise two very different points:
- The first one is about the level of individual liberties that should be sacrificed
- The other one is about the consistency of public policies
Covid 19 could have been managed and solved in different ways and, the worst way has been adopted.
I have been grouped here into the "people who don't respect the healthcare system and the deaths".
The population can be divided into different categories in terms of the way they absorb information about Covid.
It is true that an important section of the population don't care. However, it is also true that some are overly petrified, stressed and concerned about news and future. I know some relatively young people whose only one interactions - in the real life - are cashiers since several months. They go out only to go to the supermarkets once a week as they are working from home, retired or unemployed.
Impact of media news on mental health is huge for some vulnerable people.
Democracy is based on the trust citizens place on politicians and the political system. Individuals are free to distrust politicians or be sceptical about some topics for good or bad reasons, and they are not always "Conspiracy theorists".
The vast majority of those who disagree with political measures are not "Conspiracy muppets". The vast majority of Republicans/supporters of Trump do not agree with the US Capitol attacks.
In theory, one can agree with BBC/Westminster on the assessment of the covid situation at 75% and strongly disagree about the remaining 25%
The two extremes I can identify are:
- The Conspiracy muppets who are generally repetitive, boring, paranoids and who confuse causality with coincidence. *Depressing*
- The Parrots who repeat what they hear from mainstream media and who take everything for granted. No critical thinking. *Appalling*
The Truth is in the middle.
Your question is legitimate about the efficiency of a test but more critical aspects are:
- Number of people hospitalized i.e. NHS overwhelmed?
- Death toll i.e. the direct impact of Covid on life expectancy
- Number of people who suffer from the consequences of Covid i.e. the long-term impact of Covid on the well-being of people tested positive at some point
In France, a test is mandatory for somebody identified as a contact of person tested positive.
When?
I read that before 4-5 days of contact/infection the virus may not show up, even using PCR
That’s correct. Close contacts should ideally be tested twice. Asap and then again, a week later.
Re-reading the first page. This was eerily prophetic. He did survive, didn’t he?!?
Germany has hit 40k deaths today...their population is roughly 25% larger than ours.
We have double the death count.
Todays figures:
508 deaths
55k new cases
We have double the death count.
Todays figures:
508 deaths
55k new cases
The new bollocks around Facebook is people are dying of the vaccine.
Dying with the vaccine, dying without the vaccine. Options are limited indeedOr is it
No.
The underlined is happening.
The bold is not.
The vast overwhelming majority want clear and sensible restrictions that tighten and loosen as necessary, with all following them.
The two extremes you speak of are not even vaguely equal. The underlined has become a threat to public health. The bold has received zero traction or support from any meaningful number of people. Nobody wants it.
If you believe what you wrote, change your news sources immediately because you’re wrong. No if’s, buts or coconuts.
UK has two million vaccinated so far with 13 million planned by mid Feb. AstraZeneca have said they will supply 2 million a week soon.
Should make a real dent in the death toll but it's a tragedy many will die becasue we couldn't hold out over chrimbo. People may have lived to see many more will have seen their last.
Should make a real dent in the death toll but it's a tragedy many will die becasue we couldn't hold out over chrimbo. People may have lived to see many more will have seen their last.
Just saw reports where some people reacted badly days after taking the shot. Are they false reports?