1 most likely. 2 if they were being thorough.
Or they just plucked it out of their arses.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Or they just plucked it out of their arses.
Gf came back negative just now
Mine should be the same whenever that comes.We'd just cancelled the electrician that was supposed to come fix our lights as well ffs.
I’m yet to see someone without a mask in a shop but I see idiots not covering their mouths and noses.
Also almost no one uses the hand san as they go in which I find utterly bizarre (maybe they use their own?).
There are massive differences in compliance between shops. I've concluded for example, that Sainsbury's shoppers must have far more hidden health issues than Asda shoppers - given the large numbers of people not wearing masks in Sainsbury's.
Indeed the Sainsbury's PA system plays a recorded message about "hidden disabilities" every few minutes. The Asda one plays a reminder about wearing a mask and maintaining social distance. Of course, that may just be a local picture based on a couple of (big) Sainsbury's and the local (big) Asda. It's rare to see anyone in the Asda not wearing a mask, and those that don't are almost always wearing a visor.
Tesco, Morrisons and Aldi appear to be somewhere in between but have started to toughen up again - staff on the door doing reminders, offering masks.
Is it just a matter of the local store management?
I've seen a couple at my local Coop. Usually big sweating 60 something males who look like are potentially carrying all sorts. Give them a very wide birth.
I know a couple of people who had it, not hospitalised but suffering after effects. In their case, fatigue and ‘brain fog’
Great news mate!Gf came back negative just now
We'd just cancelled the electrician that was supposed to come fix our lights as well ffs.
If I've been out and about to a few shops I may use it, but if I've driven to the supermarket and interacted with nobody I can't see how anyone is any safer by me squirting some hand sanitiser on my hands.
Especially given that those stations often have a bottleneck of people crowding round to use it in my local supermarkets and we now know that it is spread through airborne droplets more than through surfaces.
In general, my gut feeling (and I'll happily be corrected on this) is too much effort is spent worrying about hands from the period at the start of the virus when we didn't know much about it.
Ewww, for goodness sake, at that age and health you’d think they’d know better.
I always see a couple of people not wearing masks at my local Co-Op and there's no enforcement, guard at the door or anything. I now go to my Sainsbury's instead because of that and it seems pretty good there. Weird that it's so different in shops that are about 400 metres apart.
I’ve noticed that too.
Everyone wears a mask here, young, old and ancient. They have them on in the street and in the shops, because we have to wear them as soon as we leave our homes. It's been this way for months and months, and unless we miraculously have no one with asthma here, it doesn't seem to cause anyone any difficulties.
My wife's grandparents and their local community are fully on that bandwagon. Originally they all thought the vaccine was a way to kill off the OAPs, now they've softened somewhat and it's just the foreign ones that are out to get them.
Send them to the back of the queue and give it to people who actually want it.
Whilst I’m not denying it’s authenticity, the story comes from a GP who was an MP up until the last election so they may be a motive to the story
I guess it's just the area near me, which isn't all that bad actually thinking about it. They do look like the type that's not worth arguing with though. I pity the staff who work there as they are really nice people. There's supposedly a 12 person limit at the moment as well but no one I could see counting unless you are somehow supposed to do it yourself before you enter.
A lot of them are just itching to be confronted about it too.
The govt. fecked up by not mandating mask wearing back in March. People would have gone for it.
Gladys is a cnut. Don’t be like Gladys.
Am I right in saying that surface transmission of the virus is very low, and most/all comes from breathing in the bad stuff?
Ah yep and he's being derided in the comments section for being an ex-Labour MP.
It's bizarre isn't it. We haven't got a clue who makes most of the medicines we take or the jabs we've ever had, but now we're picking and choosing from what we've read on twitter or in the Sun.
Nothing's for certain, but that does seem to fit the characteristics of transmission so far. Then again, there are degrees of risk - picking the virus up off a surface and sticking it in your eyes/mouth/nose appears less likely that having it on your hand from someone coughing at you and then you touching your eyes/mouth/nose. But inhalation is considered the most common route according to the US CDC and a fairly large proportion of the experts around the world.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html#Spread
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.estlett.0c00966
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-not-masks-aid-spread-of-covid-19-coronavirus
Thanks!
Makes perfect sense. In fact, when I shop I also place my shopping bag flat on the ground and lay the items I've bought on top of it. When I lift the bag everything falls off, which makes no sense because my stuff was "on" the bag. I then get "in" my car - the boot, specifically - so I can drive home. For some reason I'm unable to reach the steering wheel or pedals.
On an unrelated note I don't know how I've got four kids when I always wear a condom. I only tie it around my balls but it's technically "on".
Same here. You just don't see anyone without a mask in public. There are big fines on it, and there is no warning system, you pay up immediately. Even at work, to get a coffee, you put on your mask (for the few people that are present...)
I do wonder if these people realise they are marking themselves for life. Some day soon the pandemic will be over, but the reputation some people are gathering as lunatic anti-vaccine/hoaxers will stick with them forever. I know a few people in their 20s and 30s who are being slowly ostracised from society because of their beliefs.
Partly it's because it's enforced. You will be stopped, fined and ultimately arrested if you refuse to don one. There are twice as many police here as in the UK though, more now the Army are involved.
Unless of course someone sneezes or coughs near your hands or on a surface you just touched and then bite your fingernails or something. Better safe than sorry I’d say. Wash wash wash your hands
I still wipe down everything I buy. It's tedious but I've not caught it yet so why stop? It'd be like removing flood barriers because you haven't had a flood.
Feels like it would be an easy win to vaccinate on arrival and departure of quarantine hotels. Charge of course.
You are right not many people who get it die (percentage wise) but it's not about the death rate. If we were only getting 1,000 cases and 50 deaths a day from this virus it would be long off mainstream news and we'd all still be living like it never came let alone was still around.
It's about the spread and that we can't have too many people hospitalised at one go. As awful as it would have been for the people of Wuhan it would have actually been better for the world if this virus was much more deadly as it would have killed it hosts before it could cause any havoc spreading. That's why people even who aren't that high risk should get the vaccine.
I do think we have gone well too far with some restrictions but others were most certainly needed.
Really? :O
Not to mention the people who jizz and piss over your order
Yes - washing your hands is just a good idea anyway - our hands are pretty disgusting at times.
I'd say the importance of realising that inhalation is generally a bigger issue is with places that claim to be "covid-secure" because they have hand sanitiser every 5 feet, but closed all the windows and shut off the ventilation some time in November because it was a bit cold.
Yeah but that middle aisle at Aldi is brilliant.
Yeah
With all the knowledge, treatments, experience from the first wave and alleged compliance, awareness, protocols for elderly and mask wearing, Italy being first hit got given a pass from the first wave but they have now had thousands more deaths officially in this second wave and it's still counting with over 600 deaths announced today, same goes for many countries that followed Italy. I don't think Western nations are ready yet to live with this like East Asians nations seem to and probably never will. Japan is perhaps the most puzzling for some with the highest older population and the total of 120 million on a very small piece of land with very low amounts of testing,
The No.1 cnut in the Government, Priti Patel, on at 5pm
Personally I use my own because A: Its better than the watered down shit my local shops have, and B: I dont want to stand next to a bunch of people queuing
I love it
1243 deaths announced
45k cases
45k cases
No need to apologise mate. Didn't sound like gloating at all. Your country has handled the pandemic extremely well. That is something that gives me hope, that the rest of the World can learn from!
I'm just saying you have plenty to be positive about, in context.