"I think we can win the title if we focus!" Paul Pogba Sky Sports interview

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I agree with Pogba. If we can sort out our inconsistency’s we can win it. Our forwards need to get the finger out though.
 

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I don't understand how he seems to love United, and be happy playing then Raiola comes out with the opposite, strange situation.

Hopefully United get some good momentum and keep winning.
 

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I don't understand how he seems to love United, and be happy playing then Raiola comes out with the opposite, strange situation.

Hopefully United get some good momentum and keep winning.
Its obvious he wants to win things, he thought we were not good enough therefore was unhappy. Now as soon as it looks like we might, he starts trying way harder.
 

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Good to hear him say that. He's not a particularly focused player so hopefully he actually gets it.
 

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I don't understand how he seems to love United, and be happy playing then Raiola comes out with the opposite, strange situation.

Hopefully United get some good momentum and keep winning.
Well it's in Raiola's best interest for his top clients to move clubs because he makes more money out of it.... and it doesn't get anymore top then Pogba.

Or Pogba may have been unhappy at some point when he didn't feel like he was first choice.
 

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I don't understand how he seems to love United, and be happy playing then Raiola comes out with the opposite, strange situation.

Hopefully United get some good momentum and keep winning.
I think he doesnt want the fans to hate him and by spouting good things they will think its all bad old Raiola. The thing is Pogba could clear up with a simple statement that hes not looking to leave. The fact he hasnt speaks volumes. On the other hand if no one offers him the money he wants and Raiolas fee, then I can see the board shitting themselves and offering a massive contract that he will take and then turn into the inconsistant player he usually is.
 

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Well it's in Raiola's best interest for his top clients to move clubs because he makes more money out of it.... and it doesn't get anymore top then Pogba.
Agents also get commission when negotiating contract extensions and I'm sure Woodward would do well to line up Raiola's pockets, so it could just mean a kick up the arse of the management to start those talks. The way he's been doing interviews lately and trying to show some leadership for once makes me think he's angling towards extending, not least because no one has the money to acquire him and then pay the salary he is on as even Madrid is talking about salary cuts.
 

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Agents also get commission when negotiating contract extensions and I'm sure Woodward would do well to line up Raiola's pockets, so it could just mean a kick up the arse of the management to start those talks. The way he's been doing interviews lately and trying to show some leadership for once makes me think he's angling towards extending, not least because no one has the money to acquire him and then pay the salary he is on as even Madrid is talking about salary cuts.
They do, they just get a hell of a lot more money from transfers (as they get a percentage of the transfer fee as opposed to the signing on fee - unless I'm mistaken?)
 

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It's all very simple: Raiola isn't gonna say a bunch of bullshit against Pogba's will.

Whether the current good form is coincidental, a way to "market himself", or even a change of mind, is hard to tell.

I do think previous behavior has proven that Pogba has an attitude problem. So even if he's had a change of mind, I still think he should be sold. I feel that it's too late for him to redeem himself now. The way I see it, if he's had a change of mind, it can only be because of 2 reasons:

1. He believes in the team/coach now.
2. He realizes that his best days are over and wants a last paycheck.

If number 1: what happens when we hit a rough patch? Is it the same shit all over again? If number 2: most definitely get rid!
 

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Good interview - comes across a very mature in this. I'm sure he is well liked in the squad. Also had no idea he has kids.
 

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They do, they just get a hell of a lot more money from transfers (as they get a percentage of the transfer fee as opposed to the signing on fee - unless I'm mistaken?)
I don't think they get a percentage of transfer fee, its more or less a rider on top of the fee with one side paying for it, usually the buyer. However agents also get a percentage share of the player's salary they negotiate, usually between 5-10% so if Raiola moves Pogba to Madrid and he is then asked to take a covid pay cut, going from 350k/week to 200k/week, Mino's weekly income goes down by anywhere between 7500 - 15000 per week.
 

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I think he doesnt want the fans to hate him and by spouting good things they will think its all bad old Raiola. The thing is Pogba could clear up with a simple statement that hes not looking to leave. The fact he hasnt speaks volumes. On the other hand if no one offers him the money he wants and Raiolas fee, then I can see the board shitting themselves and offering a massive contract that he will take and then turn into the inconsistant player he usually is.
There's a similar thing happening with another of Raiola's clients: Donnarumma. Hasn't signed a contract extension, is pretty much a cert to leave (probably for Chelsea) and the player himself has been quiet, but Zlatan (yet another client) came out today/recently saying he's shocked Donnarumma has never played a Champions League game as he is the best goalkeeper in the world. Setting things up for Donnarumma leaving without the player looking a villain.
 

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It shouldn’t but it does bother me that now we are seeing his best when it seems inevitable that he’s leaving. Where the feck has this player been.

Hopefully it continues this season and we’ll see what happens.
 

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Well that’s guaranteed a loss at Liverpool and finishing third, thanks Paul.

As if Liverpool need any more motivation.
 

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There's a similar thing happening with another of Raiola's clients: Donnarumma. Hasn't signed a contract extension, is pretty much a cert to leave (probably for Chelsea) and the player himself has been quiet, but Zlatan (yet another client) came out today/recently saying he's shocked Donnarumma has never played a Champions League game as he is the best goalkeeper in the world. Setting things up for Donnarumma leaving without the player looking a villain.
Yes its all a game. Get the agent to slag the team off, player starts playing consistantly good for the first time. Player then praises the club, but doesnt contradict the agent. Deflects with the fans. Fallback option if desired club/clubs dont come in, sign a more lucrative contract as he has shown he can perform regular.
 

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It's all very simple: Raiola isn't gonna say a bunch of bullshit against Pogba's will.

Whether the current good form is coincidental, a way to "market himself", or even a change of mind, is hard to tell.

I do think previous behavior has proven that Pogba has an attitude problem. So even if he's had a change of mind, I still think he should be sold. I feel that it's too late for him to redeem himself now. The way I see it, if he's had a change of mind, it can only be because of 2 reasons:

1. He believes in the team/coach now.
2. He realizes that his best days are over and wants a last paycheck.

If number 1: what happens when we hit a rough patch? Is it the same shit all over again? If number 2: most definitely get rid!
Does the fact that he had a serious ankle problem that required an operation come into this? There is a good chance he wasn't fully fit for any of last season.
 

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Stop talking about it and do it
 

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It's all very simple: Raiola isn't gonna say a bunch of bullshit against Pogba's will.

Whether the current good form is coincidental, a way to "market himself", or even a change of mind, is hard to tell.

I do think previous behavior has proven that Pogba has an attitude problem. So even if he's had a change of mind, I still think he should be sold. I feel that it's too late for him to redeem himself now. The way I see it, if he's had a change of mind, it can only be because of 2 reasons:

1. He believes in the team/coach now.
2. He realizes that his best days are over and wants a last paycheck.

If number 1: what happens when we hit a rough patch? Is it the same shit all over again? If number 2: most definitely get rid!
The only person in football that seems to think he has an attitude problem was Jose. Every other one of his managers and teammates seems to only have positive things to say.

I think he knows he's moving into his prime years and wants to win trophies. If it's not likely here, he'll move. Whether it's now worth putting up with this is another issue, but I think this is much more similar to Rooney's transfer request.
 

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Well that’s guaranteed a loss at Liverpool and finishing third, thanks Paul.

As if Liverpool need any more motivation.
What the feck are you going on about
 

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It's all very simple: Raiola isn't gonna say a bunch of bullshit against Pogba's will.

Whether the current good form is coincidental, a way to "market himself", or even a change of mind, is hard to tell.

I do think previous behavior has proven that Pogba has an attitude problem. So even if he's had a change of mind, I still think he should be sold. I feel that it's too late for him to redeem himself now. The way I see it, if he's had a change of mind, it can only be because of 2 reasons:

1. He believes in the team/coach now.
2. He realizes that his best days are over and wants a last paycheck.

If number 1: what happens when we hit a rough patch? Is it the same shit all over again? If number 2: most definitely get rid!
Bold bit is bullshit.
 

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The only person in football that seems to think he has an attitude problem was Jose. Every other one of his managers and teammates seems to only have positive things to say.

I think he knows he's moving into his prime years and wants to win trophies. If it's not likely here, he'll move. Whether it's now worth putting up with this is another issue, but I think this is much more similar to Rooney's transfer request.
His brother and agent antics are infuriating.

Cut that out and people will give him way more slack. It's fecking annoying to have him out injured while his brother and agent whores him out to Real.

It's best for all of he wins a league title with us and gets his dream move to Real this summer.
 

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If we win on Sunday and continue the good run and that eejit of a agent comes out and says anything negative between Sunday and the end of May, a can of whoop ass is needed by Pogba on him and united would be wise to never do business with him again. Disgrace of a agent, a leech, a mouthpiece nothing less.
 

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I think it’s the first time post SAF that there is a feeling around the squad „we really could do that“ - increasing with a potential result on sunday. It‘s not like everyone was in great form throughout the last games, but the team managed to get results nevertheless which seems to be because of a changed mindset.

Pogba is someone who other players are following, with big influence in the dressing room. Him and the likes of Bruno, De Gea etc. have to perform on AND off the pitch. That is the biggest assumption for me that this mindest/feeling is growing and we continue „forcing“ to get points.

Hopefully some players like Martial can finally find some form as well and chances are not that bad as some are saying - without wanting to be too naive and in perspective that there are still many games to play.
 

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The only person in football that seems to think he has an attitude problem was Jose. Every other one of his managers and teammates seems to only have positive things to say.
This is all mainly speculation/PR, though.

They way I see it: using Raiola as a mouthpiece the way he does is pretty good evidence of poor attitude. That is the primary reason for why I want him out.

Also, with Bruno in the team, Fred and McTominay stepping up, and the potential of VDB on the bench, Pogba has lost most of his leverage. He's been really good lately and in terms of quality he's a good player to have. But he's far from the most important player anymore and I don't think he's going to get better from this point and onwards. I think he can be replaced quite easily, while still potentially giving us a decent return money-wise. Usually I don't care too much about the financial aspect, but it's clear that our club does. If selling Pogba could help us get fresh blood, then I'm all for it at this stage.
 

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Firstly, i wish we didnt talk about a title challenge just yet, we are not wven half way through in games. We need to take each match, game by game to avoid complacency.

This season is ridiculous, Spurs, Chelsea, Everton, Leicester, Liverpool and now United have spent some time at the summit. This is going to be the beat race for top spot in many many years.

Saying that, if we were genuine contenders, we need Paul to continue his form we have seen in the last few weeks. When he is on game, he releases the burden on Bruno and the opposition are swamped with two brilliant midfielders. Ole has to be braver and start playing him much higher up the pitch like he did when he took over at first, or like in the second half against Burnely.

A combination of consistency, no complacency, form and bravery is key to us being genuine title contenders. For the first time in a long time, this club has a belief (thanks Ole - and that is from a Ole outter willing to change his view). I really want to see more hunger from Paul, just like at the end of the Burnely game when he clenched his fist just before the whistle in acknowledgement of 3 brilliant points. We need to get something from Anfield, our enemy is weak, this is our best chance to knock the scousers off there two year perch.
 

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Bold bit is bullshit.
Do you really think Raiola would make those statements at random or purely for his own agenda? I'll never buy into that. He represents the player and will always try to act in their best interest. He's a cnut, but he's good at what he does. There's a reason for why he represents so many good players.
 

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Do you really think Raiola would make those statements at random or purely for his own agenda? I'll never buy into that. He represents the player and will always try to act in their best interest. He's a cnut, but he's good at what he does. There's a reason for why he represents so many good players.
I misread apologies. Initially I read your opening sentence as "Raiola will say bullshit against Pogba's will"

:lol:
 

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Well it's in Raiola's best interest for his top clients to move clubs because he makes more money out of it.... and it doesn't get anymore top then Pogba.

Or Pogba may have been unhappy at some point when he didn't feel like he was first choice.
Paul was on the bench and played as a DM when he came on.
Since those comments, he plays every game, plays higher up and has a lot more responsibility in an attacking sense.
When we offer Paul a bigger contract, those comments will have played a blinder
 

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The only person in football that seems to think he has an attitude problem was Jose. Every other one of his managers and teammates seems to only have positive things to say.

I think he knows he's moving into his prime years and wants to win trophies. If it's not likely here, he'll move. Whether it's now worth putting up with this is another issue, but I think this is much more similar to Rooney's transfer request.
You don't think his bad attitude has ever been evident on the pitch? Even under Ole he's had games where he's looked like he couldn't be arsed.

He moaned and we've moved him into a role where he gets more freedom and yeah he's looked the better player for it. I still don't think we should accept a player only giving it his all when he feels like it though.

He's a fair weather player that likes attention and hates when others get it. Hopefully he carries on his good performances and then leaves us in the summer.
 

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It's all very simple: Raiola isn't gonna say a bunch of bullshit against Pogba's will.

Whether the current good form is coincidental, a way to "market himself", or even a change of mind, is hard to tell.

I do think previous behavior has proven that Pogba has an attitude problem. So even if he's had a change of mind, I still think he should be sold. I feel that it's too late for him to redeem himself now. The way I see it, if he's had a change of mind, it can only be because of 2 reasons:

1. He believes in the team/coach now.
2. He realizes that his best days are over and wants a last paycheck.

If number 1: what happens when we hit a rough patch? Is it the same shit all over again? If number 2: most definitely get rid!
Or fans need to realize that football is ultimately a business and this football business involves three parties with some common objectives and some opposing ones.

Clubs, fans and players all want to win and do well but clubs want to do so cheaply, players want to do so while earning well, and fans simply do not care about either of those. The result is that fans tend to view things, as you have, from a highly binary perspective.

Pogba can both love Man Utd the football club and want to do well here while having difficult relations with Man Utd the business. That's where an agent comes in to represent the business side of the player's interests. So its perfectly understandable that the player and his agent may not speak with the same tone, because they are not addressing the same faces of the institution that is Man Utd.
 

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You don't think his bad attitude has ever been evident on the pitch? Even under Ole he's had games where he's looked like he couldn't be arsed.

He moaned and we've moved him into a role where he gets more freedom and yeah he's looked the better player for it. I still don't think we should accept a player only giving it his all when he feels like it though.

He's a fair weather player that likes attention and hates when others get it. Hopefully he carries on his good performances and then leaves us in the summer.
Have you just made this up? Pogba hates when others get attention?? When in his career has he ever showed this? He gracefully accepted palyign a supporting role to Bruno with not a single complaint and quite the opposite, even Bruno has spoken of how supportive Pogba has been towards him.

Why are you inventing these narratives?
 

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The only person in football that seems to think he has an attitude problem was Jose. Every other one of his managers and teammates seems to only have positive things to say.

I think he knows he's moving into his prime years and wants to win trophies. If it's not likely here, he'll move. Whether it's now worth putting up with this is another issue, but I think this is much more similar to Rooney's transfer request.
What? I specifically remember Jose saying pretty much the same thing as Ole: Pogba is always professional and tries his best in training. Yet they both weren't playing him when they came out with those statements.