This so what people don't get. I don't know if average is the right term but somehow this myth has been whipped up that he's been sensational for years and is some all time great CM that everyone must trip themselves over.
I’m not convinced Klopp has learnt how to shape the team with Thiago there. I think the original plan was to play Fabinho with Thiago to allow the latter some freedom.
This was always the risk with Thiago, so much of what went right for Liverpool was based on that hard working trio in midfield, disrupting that was always going to present some tricky tactical problems.
I've said all along, the drop off in motivation will come, and they'll struggle when they have to bring in more new players and break up the harmony. The decline in motivation has been steady for a while, even throughout the league win, and was bound to accelerate after it. Klopp will have an insane amount of work on his hands to get things back to where they were.
This. Even for Barcelona when people were saying he’s the next Xavi, I couldn’t see it because in every game he would make sloppy passes and give away possession.
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I don't have an issue with people rating him. His top level was always very high. But he's had only one season of being consistently excellent. It's like VVD where people take a short peak and run with it. My only point is don't equate him with the likes of Modric, he does not have that sort of pedigree over a number of years.
I actually thought he was older than that! He looks physically shot on the pitch already, like a mid-30s player. Looks like Bayern mugged the Scouse. Fair play to them.
I saw an article pointing out Liverpool have always had the lion’s share of the ball the past few seasons, and Thiago therefore wasn’t making a big difference in this regard. But he is a different kind of player and I wonder if the lack of end product from full backs is partly because they don’t seem to be putting the wingers up against full backs as much at the moment, creating overlaps. The ball just isn’t ferried across in the same way as when there was a flatter, more dynamic three. Presumably the possession is concentrated in different areas of the pitch now too. Thiago looks a bit like Jorginho to me, though his performances are far better. It’s a question of “How does this player actually hurt other teams?”
I thought he was the best in the world last year and top 3 in 16/17. Nothing hipster about it, just a casual assessment from what I saw.
What about Gundogan?
If you check the usernames then none of us should be surprised.
the reaction has a lot to do with people who were claiming he was the next messiah.If you check the usernames then none of us should be surprised.
I went with the masses of hype thinking I'd missed something. All I remember is he was massively hyped as a kid vanished, then suddenly got back on peoples radar in his later 20s.
All on the back of a few one legged CL games his stock went through the roof.
He wasn't even the best Bayern midfielder last year imo. Agree about play style, he takes too many touches for Klopp's system.
Gundogen is a lot more mobile than Thiago. Better game IQ also. In my opinion Thiago isnt on Gundogen's level.
Give over.
Ok my opinion is changed. Thanks.
Thanks pal x
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Give over.
Ok my opinion is changed. Thanks.
Thanks Muttley.
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I think it will be quite hard to find even Dortmund fans that agree with this. City fans probably don't know Thiago good enough.
