Edinson Cavani - Manchester United Player

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Yeh. A few years ago (?), there was a thread on Football Forum about him before. People (including me) were clamouring if there's a chance we could sign him or Mandzukic as option to Lukaku. He had a phenomenal WC too, pairing with Suarez.
He was already "too old" the last couple of times we were linked. He would also "get in the way of Rashford and Martial's development". Yet here we are and he is still miles better.

You never say no to top quality, period. There's no valid argument for Manchester United passing on top quality players (so long as you understand the right attitude and character is a necessary condition for someone being so).
 

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feck me, we need to give credit now to a manager to saying yes to signing one the best goalscorers in football?

An idiot knew Cavani was a cracking signing, especially in a squad with no real number nine, and yes, Ole is no idiot.
There were hoards of idiots on the caf claiming he's dead weight.
 
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There were hoards of idiots on the caf claiming he's dead weight.
agreed. The reaction on here was something to behold! Even when you take into account the Sancho deal didn’t materialise and the lateness of the deal - it seemed to be the majority of posters thought it was a bad deal.
 
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Feyenoord was before his prime.

He did his cruciate ligament in his first season at Barca and his goal ratio would have been a lot better otherwise. He still came back and won them the Champions league final the following season.

He was old at united and was more a team player in his later years but he still had a fantastic impact on the squad.

Scotland may be a smaller league but it was a lot stronger then than it is now. Your talking players like Gattuso, Van hoojidonk, de boer brothers, Viduka, Larsson, Van Bronkhorst, Arteta, Di Canio.

In 2001 Larsson was the top scorer in the whole of Europe. Phenomenal considering he broke his leg only the season before.
He scored 35 league goals. It's ok saying the league was weaker but his nearest competitor only had 17. To score 18 more goals than even the second highest scorer in the League was unbelieveable.

Yes Zlatan was a fantastic scorer for Sweden and is a legend also but that takes nothing away from Larsson who has 5 world cup goals to Zlatan's 0.

Some Fellow Footballers and Managers on Larsson

Ronaldinho
“With Henrik leaving us at the end of the season this club is losing a great scorer, no question. But I am also losing a great friend. Henrik was my idol and now that I am playing next to him it is fantastic.


Sir Alex Ferguson
“On arrival at United, he seemed a bit of a cult figure with our players. They would say his name in awed tones. For a man of 35, his receptiveness to information on the coaching side was amazing.

“At every session he was rapt. He wanted to listen to Carlos Queiroz, the tactics lectures, he was into every nuance of what we did. In training he was superb, his movement, his positional play. His three goals for us was no measure of his contribution.

“In his last game in our colours at Middlesbrough we were winning 2-1 and Henrik went back to play in midfield and ran his balls off. On his return to the dressing room, all the players stood up and applauded him and the staff joined in. It takes some player to make that kind of impact in two months.”

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
“We all know Henrik is a quality player. I have said before I think he is the best Scandinavian player since Michael Laudrup – and he has shown that in training and games.

“His touch is something we can all learn from. You never stop learning as a player and Henrik has done a few tricks in training that have had us all standing up and looking and saying, ‘We have not seen that before.'”

Gianluigi Buffon
“Over my career I have played against some of the best strikers there has ever been. Both Ronaldos, Roberto Baggio, Zlatan Ibrahimovic – and I can honestly say Larsson is not out of place in those names. I faced him against Celtic and Sweden and he was a player to fear, he was very special.”

Chris Sutton
“I liked Shearer a lot, obviously he was brilliant, but Henrik Larsson (was my favourite strike partner). Towards the latter stages of my career, he was a brilliant all-round footballer.

“He could do everything – finish, link up, really unselfish. I enjoyed that partnership more.”

Xavi
“From the first day I saw him in training, the way he moved and the way he was in the box, I knew he was going to be a really good player for us.

“The impact he had on the team was so important. In the final of the Champions League he made the assists for the goals that helped us win the trophy.

“He was so important for us and he was loved by the supporters and his team-mates.”

Zlatan Ibrahimovic
“Henrik was good enough to play for any team in Europe. But after playing at Celtic Park it is easy to understand why he chose to stay there for so long.”



Again, I'm a massive fan of Cavani's and was one of the few posters on here who had zero doubt's about his signing for us. I just think to say he is way better than Larsson is a bit disrespectful as Larsson is also one of the true greats of the game.
Oh the quotes are out :)

So lots of excuses there @GMoore23, but where’s the excuse for this ”phenomenal goalscorer” scoring just over half of the goals Zlatan did for Sweden in a similar amount of games?

I’ve already said I like Henke and that he was a very nice player, living in Sweden I’ve followed and loved watching him. I understand why lots of teammates really liked him, I’m not claiming he’s rubbish, he was a very nice player.
However as I also said, when he scored 35, the guy who was closest to him on 17 was Arild Stavrum at Aberdeen ffs, such was the horrific lack of quality outside Celtic and Rangers.

Arlid’s Aberdeen side managed 45 points that season, Celtic managed 97.... 52 more points, no shit Henke scored double the goals :lol:

Scoring 35 as main striker for a side who scored 90 league goals, 33 more goals than 3rd aint as impressive as you’re making out. Celtic won 31 of 38 games that season.
Absolute tin pot league and Henke rightly won’t be remembered as highly as other phenomenal goalscorers like Cavani because of spending so much time there, and because his international stats show he really wasn’t a phenomenal goalscorer outside of that God awful league.
Cavani on the other hand didn’t just have good stats in France, he scored 26, 23 & 29 in Serie A playing not for the runaway league winners but for the 3rd best side in the country.
 
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I really thought we were getting someone at the end of their career to give us little minutes off the bench. But he is fit as feck, and he is still an exceptional striker. Puts in the work rate, makes the right runs and with the players around him, an instinctive number nine is great for this team.
 

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He was already "too old" the last couple of times we were linked. He would also "get in the way of Rashford and Martial's development". Yet here we are and he is still miles better.

You never say no to top quality, period. There's no valid argument for Manchester United passing on top quality players (so long as you understand the right attitude and character is a necessary condition for someone being so).
It's more because there was slim chance he'd sign for us, while living the dream with PSG. All United could offer was higher wage which might not be much more than PSG (with tax etc.).
 

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Thought he'd be another Falcao. Glad to be wrong. He should be putting Martial on the bench going forward.
 

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It's more because there was slim chance he'd sign for us, while living the dream with PSG. All United could offer was higher wage which might not be much more than PSG (with tax etc.).
That was certainly the case pre-Neymar.

Post Neymar he was gettable. Never felt comfortable there after the idiotic Neymar-Alves incident and the way the club handled it (which was essentially, "Neymar can be a prick and do whatever the feck he wants, deal with it").
 

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Feyenoord was before his prime.

He did his cruciate ligament in his first season at Barca and his goal ratio would have been a lot better otherwise. He still came back and won them the Champions league final the following season.

He was old at united and was more a team player in his later years but he still had a fantastic impact on the squad.

Scotland may be a smaller league but it was a lot stronger then than it is now. Your talking players like Gattuso, Van hoojidonk, de boer brothers, Viduka, Larsson, Van Bronkhorst, Arteta, Di Canio.

In 2001 Larsson was the top scorer in the whole of Europe. Phenomenal considering he broke his leg only the season before.
He scored 35 league goals. It's ok saying the league was weaker but his nearest competitor only had 17. To score 18 more goals than even the second highest scorer in the League was unbelieveable.

Yes Zlatan was a fantastic scorer for Sweden and is a legend also but that takes nothing away from Larsson who has 5 world cup goals to Zlatan's 0.

Some Fellow Footballers and Managers on Larsson

Ronaldinho
“With Henrik leaving us at the end of the season this club is losing a great scorer, no question. But I am also losing a great friend. Henrik was my idol and now that I am playing next to him it is fantastic.


Sir Alex Ferguson
“On arrival at United, he seemed a bit of a cult figure with our players. They would say his name in awed tones. For a man of 35, his receptiveness to information on the coaching side was amazing.

“At every session he was rapt. He wanted to listen to Carlos Queiroz, the tactics lectures, he was into every nuance of what we did. In training he was superb, his movement, his positional play. His three goals for us was no measure of his contribution.

“In his last game in our colours at Middlesbrough we were winning 2-1 and Henrik went back to play in midfield and ran his balls off. On his return to the dressing room, all the players stood up and applauded him and the staff joined in. It takes some player to make that kind of impact in two months.”

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
“We all know Henrik is a quality player. I have said before I think he is the best Scandinavian player since Michael Laudrup – and he has shown that in training and games.

“His touch is something we can all learn from. You never stop learning as a player and Henrik has done a few tricks in training that have had us all standing up and looking and saying, ‘We have not seen that before.'”

Gianluigi Buffon
“Over my career I have played against some of the best strikers there has ever been. Both Ronaldos, Roberto Baggio, Zlatan Ibrahimovic – and I can honestly say Larsson is not out of place in those names. I faced him against Celtic and Sweden and he was a player to fear, he was very special.”

Chris Sutton
“I liked Shearer a lot, obviously he was brilliant, but Henrik Larsson (was my favourite strike partner). Towards the latter stages of my career, he was a brilliant all-round footballer.

“He could do everything – finish, link up, really unselfish. I enjoyed that partnership more.”

Xavi
“From the first day I saw him in training, the way he moved and the way he was in the box, I knew he was going to be a really good player for us.

“The impact he had on the team was so important. In the final of the Champions League he made the assists for the goals that helped us win the trophy.

“He was so important for us and he was loved by the supporters and his team-mates.”

Zlatan Ibrahimovic
“Henrik was good enough to play for any team in Europe. But after playing at Celtic Park it is easy to understand why he chose to stay there for so long.”



Again, I'm a massive fan of Cavani's and was one of the few posters on here who had zero doubt's about his signing for us. I just think to say he is way better than Larsson is a bit disrespectful as Larsson is also one of the true greats of the game.
How has this post gone without a like?
 

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How has this post gone without a like?
Most people can't like posts as far as I'm aware.

For the record @GMoore23 I did like it. Larsson was a great player and a top guy, which always helps. I would have him and Cavani in that same tier of great players, stars for their clubs and countries.

They could have played for better teams, sure, buy nobody can question they could fight for a place in any of the very top sides of their times.

I would never hold it against someone that they played in Scotland, or France, etc for too long. If anything it speaks of their professionalism and loyalty.
 

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His stint here was super overrated
Disagree. Anybody watching his few games for us saw that his understanding of football was something special. The way he perfectly slotted in with his all-round play was fantastic. And this is coming from a Norwegian who was begrudging a Swede stealing some of Ole’s thunder in his comeback/swan song season :lol:
 
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How has this post gone without a like?
Because it was a nonsensical post full of lame excuses, when the fact is, he scored at that rate because he played in an absolutely awful league where his team was by far the best in the league.
He went from 30 goals in 37 league games in 2003-2004 to 3 goals in 12 league game (before his cruciate injury) in a proper league.

Really nice player, lovely bloke, not great by any stretch.
 
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Such a unselfish forward. Was great tonight and was unlucky with his late effort hitting the post.
 

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He's starting to bed into the side now. Pulls off some sensational touches every now and again to feed the pace forwards. You can see the difference having a proper centre forward has to the shape of the attack.
 

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He is having a similar but different impact to that of Zlatan. Zlatan lifted the team spirit and winning attitude.

Cavani is lifting the intelligence of the forwards. Much needed intelligence.

Zlatan scored more goals but we were too dependent on him and he did miss quite a bit of chances. Cavani is improving those around him and despite missing chances, he is helping create space and chances for the other forwards.

Love his attitude. Making a bigger impact than Alexis Sanchez, similar fight in both of them, but I prefer our current #7.
 

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I actually think rashford doesn't play him in enough, greenwood definitely doesn't, you can point to the 1 or 2 times they do but they are loads of times they can but dont
 

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I actually think rashford doesn't play him in enough, greenwood definitely doesn't, you can point to the 1 or 2 times they do but they are loads of times they can but dont
They all need to learn each other's games a bit more. That'll come though.
 

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Would have been one of the best headers I've ever seen had it gone in.

There is definitely a bit of a clash with him and other forwards. Not quite the same styles of play.
 

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Doing well. That doesn't mean he will do as well if we play him every minute and wear him out. He has spent a year out and I reckon ole will keep mixing him in even if the forum wants to play him every second
 

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I actually think rashford doesn't play him in enough, greenwood definitely doesn't, you can point to the 1 or 2 times they do but they are loads of times they can but dont
I suspect he is used to that type of situation having played alongside Neymar and Mbappe for a few seasons. Not saying its right mind you
 

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I’m sure it’s already been mentioned, but I love Cavani’s reaction after Mason scored, walking back with Greenwood and still giving the young attacker advice! Greenwood was loving it too!
 
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For the record @GMoore23 I did like it. Larsson was a great player and a top guy, which always helps. I would have him and Cavani in that same tier of great players, stars for their clubs and countries.

They could have played for better teams, sure, buy nobody can question they could fight for a place in any of the very top sides of their times.

I would never hold it against someone that they played in Scotland, or France, etc for too long. If anything it speaks of their professionalism and loyalty.
Very strange equivalence of the Scottish and French leagues here. Ligue 1 is miles ahead.

And Cavani only went to Ligue 1 in the first place when he was 26, after banging in goals for fun in Serie A.
 

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Great addition to the team but not the answer to resolve our issue of needing a prolific striker
 

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Always been a fan of his, wanted him years ago, but honestly thought the move might be a bit too late for him. I was worried when we signed him, mostly with his injury record and his tendency to fluff a chance. So far he's been amazing though and the player I hoped he could be. Long may it continue and he stay fit, because he's making such a difference, actually having a true number 9 again is fantastic.

Not the long term answer (obviously), but the example that proves exactly what we need and have been lacking.
 

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his tackling of CBs and CDMs is fecking mint, especially when hes sneaking up from behind