I've been through some serious shit in the last few years which made me reconsider... everything.
I don't see how anyone can really have an open-minded, study a bit religions and still think that Jesus was a God. I mean, you can give him some prophethood (like Muslims do), or just a very nice knowledgable person with a lot of wisdom (like I personally believe), but the Godhood, and Holy Trinity and God sacrificing himself to himself in order to pay the punishment for the capital sin (which is as a small sin as something can be) is just total nonsense IMO. Those things came after Jesus and had not much to do with Jesus.
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Sorry about all you've been through, it must have been tough.
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Moses comes down with stone tablets written by god, with one of them saying "Thou Shall not kill". He managed to uphold that for a few hours before comitting genocide of innocent people for idoltary.
I've never heard this story before.
No. Never really took religion seriously after becoming an adult.
Well i'm not a Christian either, but my grandparents were Christian missionaries so obviously there was a influence, but I was agnostic untill I decided on Buddhism in my late teens.
"Evolutionary creationism" - this is the religious belief that evolution is the mechanism by which God brought about life on this planet.
Christians(and probably religious people in general) fall into 3 categories:
Christians(and probably religious people in general) fall into 3 categories:
1. The nutcases who believe in every single word in their holy texts.
2. The people who just pick and choose at random what they like from the texts(they believe in the "main story", though).
3. The people who admit that it's all bullshit, but that there is some wisdom and good messages to be found and thus they still define themselves as Christian.
Number 1 can't be reasoned with, but luckily they are rare.
Number 2 is the most common and the most annoying overall. And, in a way, just as stupid number 1.
Number 3 are not really Christians, but they call themselves that for whatever reason(probably social pressure).
Now that I've dropped a bomb: see you later, gonna eat dinner and watch a movie
shots fired.Only the fundamentalists who take everything literally.
I mean you would hope there was something out there wouldn't you. I just don't believe in these man made fictional books that were made when most people didn't know any better.
This thread isn’t as smart as she seems to think it is.
This seems like a best case scenario rather than how things actually turn out. In reality, people do bad things and seek forgiveness only to continue doing other bad things with the knowledge that JC has their backs.
It’s like trickle-down econonics. Would be great if it worked that way, but...
That isn’t the fault of the faith though. That is false teaching and people distorting the Bible’s teachings to believe what they want to, so they aren’t forced to examine themselves. It’s not a problem with Christianity, it’s a problem of sinful people who use it for their own interests.
We all have faith in something. I was just pointing out that her thread didn’t make any sense and is full of misinformation.
You grew up in a different version of Christianity, or whatever religion, than I in Texas. I grew up bombarded with "you'll go to hell for this/that" and to never question clergy, scripture, etc. I had questions but stuffed it away growing up, often because clergy would ignore or provide a typical apologetic response, or better yet, "we never question the divine word of god" bullshit. Stories always bothered me, like talking snakes and global flooding to kill a god's creation, and of course the incest stuff. I drew parallels to Greek mythology when studying the course in high school but still kept my faith. As I grew older, educated myself in philosophy, science, etc. I broke free of the shackles religion places on the mind.
That must have sucked. There were times too, when I had doubts and questions growing up. There were always limits as to who you felt you could speak to, but I felt more freedom to explore them as I got older. It has been healthier for me to move away and “find my own truth”, so to speak. Obviously that’s still a process, but your experience sounds harsh and I can understand the frustration.
I would believe this if not for the fact that everyone who practices a religion interprets it in a certain way, so who is to say one person's interpretation is any more legitimate than another's, especially given that everyone is interpreting stories people made up thousands of years ago, which have probably changed considerably as they were retold over the past two thousand years.
What a load of utter bollocks.
Not really innocent when they broke one of the commandments stating:
Is it?
I hope you are joking if you think they are not innocent. Otherwise you are a religious sociopath.
I agree with you totally, but I believe, that the truth is still there. The waters have definitely been muddied, but that doesn’t mean we should through the baby out with the bath water. Just because it is confused, doesn’t mean there isn’t truth.
My argument is so. You have to do some work to emphasise with someone you don't like
I suppose I identify with the 2?Christians(and probably religious people in general) fall into 3 categories:
1. The nutcases who believe in every single word in their holy texts.
2. The people who just pick and choose at random what they like from the texts(they believe in the "main story", though).
3. The people who admit that it's all bullshit, but that there is some wisdom and good messages to be found and thus they still define themselves as Christian.
Number 1 can't be reasoned with, but luckily they are rare.
Number 2 is the most common and the most annoying overall. And, in a way, just as stupid number 1.
Number 3 are not really Christians, but they call themselves that for whatever reason(probably social pressure).
Now that I've dropped a bomb: see you later, gonna eat dinner and watch a movie
I think my neighbour is a cnut of the highest order, I fecking detest the arsehole. That said, he's in his late 60's and got baaaad Covid back in May; from my kitchen window I can see his kitchen and could see and hear he was in bad bad way, looked like he was gonna die any second. I felt awful, checked on him, helped him get food, sorted calling the ambulance when it looked like he was gonna go, so I'm calling bs on that.
Don't even bother mate, Christianity is an easy target on this forum and you would never get sympathy trying to defend your viewpoint. Just take it on the chin and let the pseudo-intellects continue to lick each other's sacks.
Good on you. Guess he's got a hard time emphasising with you
With everyone, aspergers as feck.
