Turn and bounce for Leach. Another day 3 finish looms
England in India 2021
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Agreed. It’s shady
Sick of England constantly whinging to the umpires. This is not football.
I think its because the third umpire didn't check all the angles and made the decision very quickly.
There is no need for this third umpire nonsense - why is it happening?
And why no mention on the India comms feed?
Luckily having little to zero effect on the result, just seems so unnecessary.
And why no mention on the India comms feed?
Luckily having little to zero effect on the result, just seems so unnecessary.
Yep. Stump camera has to be shown for this.
His foot was grounded before the bails went off.. it wasnt even between frames..
what will other angles show that can change this?
The umpiring is a total & utter joke . How can you make that decision without the stump cam. He might be right but why is he in such a hurry
It's professionalism mate. I've never seen it done consistently as rushed as this anywhere in the world. It's really odd and causing aggro that could so easily be avoided.His foot was grounded before the bails went off.. it wasnt even between frames..
what will other angles show that can change this?
They’ll get sacked
Pitch, now umpires. Gracious in defeat (though this match is still on).
Dont forget Moenn Ali "choosing" to go home.
Kohli didn't read the straigher one. Gone.
Must do everything to ensure that the first match in Dear Leader's stadium isn't lost.
The umpires thing is not partisan?
Noone is claiming it's impacting the result. It's just so odd.
Oh Kohli. Just 6 more overs left.
I think the umpires have been pretty fair to be honest. There has been a lot of umpire calls in both favour. If we get two quick wickets here the pressure is on
Again - if the first frame you see shows very definitely that his foot was in, why do you need more frames? I don't understand this - this isn't a new rule.
For the 1000th time England are losing because they are being outplayed . That doesn't mean that the pitch & the umpiring can't be criticised . Again the curator & umpire are neutral individuals doing their job . Can you please tell me one post which has said that India are winning winning because of the umpire
All the moral highground in last match over not surrounding the umpire has suddenly disappeared in this innings.
If you look at the frames after this, it looks like his foot lifts slightly trying to move it back and then after the lights come on the foot is still moving down.His foot was grounded before the bails went off.. it wasnt even between frames..
what will other angles show that can change this?
The wicket camera could show if that is downwards movement of the foot or if the foot planting deeper into the pitch.
I am not saying he was out. I was simply pointing that the umpire could have looked at more options to be absolutely sure before he makes a decision.
Granted it's a little hasty, the decisions have been spot on. We've just got an extremely talented and confident umpire here.
What happened? I thought you said there was 6 overs left?.
I get that England are frustrated, but this whole making faces and protesting every single decision is not a good look. It's almost as if they are trying to convey that 'hey, it's not our fault, every single decision is going against us'. As @Di Maria's angel said, first it was the pitch, now it's the umpires. It's time for them to man up and accept responsibility rather than looking for things to blame.
Strange. I thought that's how much was left.
I mean the reasons for the complaints are fundamentally different?
I feel like a few of the Indian chaps are being quite partisan here in the disguise of claiming the English fans are
Min overs left .. but play goes on for only 30 mins after scheduled close of play.
Eng over rate was very slow.
Eng over rate was very slow.
Anyway back to the Cricket.
Nightmare of a day for England with the bat, really poor application with a few shocking dismissals (hello Olly Pope).
Decent fightback with the ball but you'd expect Rohit/Rahane/Pant to get India 200+ which should be enough.
Anyone see it going past day 3?
Nightmare of a day for England with the bat, really poor application with a few shocking dismissals (hello Olly Pope).
Decent fightback with the ball but you'd expect Rohit/Rahane/Pant to get India 200+ which should be enough.
Anyone see it going past day 3?
Kohli should be more upset that he got out now as he did.
Got to say this is excellent from Rohit after the hard first overs.
Idiotic decision not playing a 2nd spinner, I know it's easy in hindsight but imagine If Leach picked up an injury. Root should bowl himself tomorrow, would not be surprised if he picked up a couple of wickets.
Get 200+ score in this innings, then day 3 is a fair call.
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This is pretty much it
Our overrates are appalling. Always have been. We dont seem to care.
I’m staggered at how quickly some of these decisions are being made and with the jinxy review as well this just makes it worst
Who won the toss?
If the English media is not complaining, it is a fair guess that they did.
This is unfortunately going to go down as a terrible series largely due to how inept England have been.
But we knew that going in to be fair!
But we knew that going in to be fair!
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Exactly this. I don't think anyone is complaining about incorrect decisions, they're getting annoyed that the decisions are being made hastily and therefore are not conclusive. They have various angles available as we saw on the Leach review so I don't see why they aren't using them. If they show all the possible angles which them proves the decision clearly then nobody is complaining. The stumping is a perfect example- if they show the stump cam angle it will clearly show if the foot is grounded or not. If it is, then fine we all accept it and move on knowing that it 100% wasn't out. As it is having just shown the 1 angle you've now still got some people saying that they think it was out as there wasn't a conclusive angle shown
Nice of you to assume that KM isn't already on the ignore list of people
I watch an abnormal amount of cricket & have done for the last 2 decades and I can't remember a series in the last 10 years where so many 3rd umpire decisions have been made looking at 1-2 angles. Makes no sense at all . Rohit had another close stumping in the second test just before the Rahane mare where the umpire gave it not out quickly looking at one angle . He literally has one job and making the decisions fast for whatever reason is not his job