Celebrity Allegations, #MeToo etc

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I’m in no way defending him and I hope he’s prosecuted and suitably punished if guilty, but the use of “child porn” in headlines when it relates to a 17 year old seems a little misleading, no?
 

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someone posted the court filing on Reddit, I couldn't get through it

if true he is a complete and utter scumbag and should be locked up

edit: here's a summary

 

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Not sure where to put this but hopefully it will become big news in France in the next few days.





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n 1977, a petition was addressed to the French parliament calling for the abrogation of several articles of the age of consent law and the decriminalization of all consensual relations between adults and minors below the age of fifteen (the age of consent in France). A number of French intellectuals – including such prominent names as Louis Aragon, Michel Foucault, Jean-Paul Sartre, Jacques Derrida, Louis Althusser, Roland Barthes, Simone de Beauvoir, Gilles Deleuze, Félix Guattari, Michel Leiris, Alain Robbe-Grillet, Philippe Sollers, Jacques Rancière, Jean-François Lyotard, Francis Ponge, Bernard Besret, and various prominent doctors and psychologists – signed the petition.[1] In 1979 two open letters were published in French newspapers defending individuals arrested under charges of statutory rape, in the context of abolition of age of consent laws.

Michel Foucault argued that children are able to give consent to sexual relations, saying that assuming “that a child is incapable of explaining what happened and was incapable of giving his consent are two abuses that are intolerable, quite unacceptable.”[2] Foucault, Sartre, and newspapers such as Libération and Le Monde each defended the idea of child-adult sexual relationships.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws
 

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Not sure where to put this but hopefully it will become big news in France in the next few days.





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I'm burning my Bernie t-shirt too, from here on out, only Thatcher and Friedman for me from now on.
 

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He struck me as completely amoral," Noam Chomsky said of Michel Foucault "I'd never met anyone who was so completely amoral"
 

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Oh wow. Only just coming across this Foucault news now. I work at a university and Foucault (not surprisingly) features quite prominently in humanities courses. It will be interesting to see if any changes are made regarding the use of his ideas in lectures and whatnot.
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/culture...f-groping-harassment-and-bullying-by-20-women


‘Sexual predator’: actor Noel Clarke accused of groping, harassment and bullying by 20 women

  • Actor-producer categorically denies allegations from all 20 women
  • Bafta suspends outstanding contribution award and actor’s membership
  • Alleged misconduct including claims he secretly filmed naked audition
  • Doctor Who and Kidulthood star allegedly showed colleagues sexually explicit photos and videos of women
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/culture...f-groping-harassment-and-bullying-by-20-women


‘Sexual predator’: actor Noel Clarke accused of groping, harassment and bullying by 20 women
  • Actor-producer categorically denies allegations from all 20 women
  • Bafta suspends outstanding contribution award and actor’s membership
  • Alleged misconduct including claims he secretly filmed naked audition
  • Doctor Who and Kidulthood star allegedly showed colleagues sexually explicit photos and videos of women
The crime that's shocking me the most here is that Noel Clarke is being taken seriously as an actor. Shockingly one dimensional plank.
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/culture...f-groping-harassment-and-bullying-by-20-women


‘Sexual predator’: actor Noel Clarke accused of groping, harassment and bullying by 20 women
  • Actor-producer categorically denies allegations from all 20 women
  • Bafta suspends outstanding contribution award and actor’s membership
  • Alleged misconduct including claims he secretly filmed naked audition
  • Doctor Who and Kidulthood star allegedly showed colleagues sexually explicit photos and videos of women
The guy is a bit of a tit in real life but still surprised.

The entertainment business is just full of this shit :(
 

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Just read the guardians report. Rather damning.

I enjoyed Kidulthood and Adulthood in my late teens. Noels public persona was always one of a hoodish scally who made it somewhat mainstream but this is just abhorrent.
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/feb/23/charlize-theron-tom-hardy-mad-max-fury-road-book

Charlize Theron ‘felt so threatened’ by Tom Hardy making Mad Max she required on-set protection

New book details allegations of unprofessional behaviour and aggression during making of George Miller’s 2015 blockbuster Mad Max: Fury Road

When Hardy finally arrived, Theron asked Hardy: “How disrespectful are you?” and said the producers should “fine the fecking cnut a hundred thousand dollars for every minute that he’s held up this crew”.
 

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Dunno but I scoured it for the gory details and all I found was this:

a junior colleague who told investigators that Sabatini had sexually harassed her

It's so vague.
A subsequent investigation by a third-party law firm, Hinkley Allen & Snyder, revealed that Sabatini had failed to disclose a relationship with a colleague “over whom he held a career-influencing role,” according to an email to the MIT community about the outcome of the probe. The investigation found that Sabatini violated the institute's policies on sexual misconduct due to his relationship with a woman who was a graduate student in another lab at MIT before starting her own lab as a fellow at Whitehead in 2018. Those policies forbid sexual relationships between faculty members and trainees and require faculty to relinquish any career-influencing roles in romantic relationships that do form. Sabatini resigned from the Whitehead Institute in August 2021—at the same time that he was fired by HHMI—and resigned from MIT earlier this month after the university recommended that his tenure be revoked.

In the aftermath, Sabatini filed a defamation lawsuit against the Whitehead Institute, its director, and the woman with whom he had had the relationship (who is not being named by The Scientist because she is the alleged victim of sexual misconduct). The woman, in turn, filed a countersuit claiming that Sabatini had fostered a highly sexualized environment in his lab and that he otherwise crossed professional boundaries, culminating in him periodically pressuring her for sex between 2018 and 2020. Sabatini asserts that the relationship was consensual and that the woman retaliated after he ended it. Both suits are currently pending, as are independent filings by Sabatini compelling Hinkley Allen & Snyder to release documents pertaining to its investigation.

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In screenshots of an email sent by Grossman and Bar-Sagi to colleagues that was shared on Twitter, the two stated that “we are aware of an upcoming Science story, and while we provided that publication with a brief statement, we also gather that the story may contain a number of inaccuracies.” In a monthly email sent by Grossman to members of the medical school on April 21, which he titled “Civility Rules,” he decried so-called “cancel culture” without naming Sabatini. Speaking to The New York Times, Bar-Sagi also cast doubt on the conclusions of the Whitehead investigation, saying that “we are looking closely at Dr. Sabatini’s case because it is clear that many aspects of his departure from M.I.T. and the Whitehead Institute were never publicly scrutinized. Moreover, dozens of Dr. Sabatini’s peers and colleagues have shared with us views that are at odds with the investigation and its outcome.”
 

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A subsequent investigation by a third-party law firm, Hinkley Allen & Snyder, revealed that Sabatini had failed to disclose a relationship with a colleague “over whom he held a career-influencing role,” according to an email to the MIT community about the outcome of the probe. The investigation found that Sabatini violated the institute's policies on sexual misconduct due to his relationship with a woman who was a graduate student in another lab at MIT before starting her own lab as a fellow at Whitehead in 2018. Those policies forbid sexual relationships between faculty members and trainees and require faculty to relinquish any career-influencing roles in romantic relationships that do form. Sabatini resigned from the Whitehead Institute in August 2021—at the same time that he was fired by HHMI—and resigned from MIT earlier this month after the university recommended that his tenure be revoked.

In the aftermath, Sabatini filed a defamation lawsuit against the Whitehead Institute, its director, and the woman with whom he had had the relationship (who is not being named by The Scientist because she is the alleged victim of sexual misconduct). The woman, in turn, filed a countersuit claiming that Sabatini had fostered a highly sexualized environment in his lab and that he otherwise crossed professional boundaries, culminating in him periodically pressuring her for sex between 2018 and 2020. Sabatini asserts that the relationship was consensual and that the woman retaliated after he ended it. Both suits are currently pending, as are independent filings by Sabatini compelling Hinkley Allen & Snyder to release documents pertaining to its investigation.

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In screenshots of an email sent by Grossman and Bar-Sagi to colleagues that was shared on Twitter, the two stated that “we are aware of an upcoming Science story, and while we provided that publication with a brief statement, we also gather that the story may contain a number of inaccuracies.” In a monthly email sent by Grossman to members of the medical school on April 21, which he titled “Civility Rules,” he decried so-called “cancel culture” without naming Sabatini. Speaking to The New York Times, Bar-Sagi also cast doubt on the conclusions of the Whitehead investigation, saying that “we are looking closely at Dr. Sabatini’s case because it is clear that many aspects of his departure from M.I.T. and the Whitehead Institute were never publicly scrutinized. Moreover, dozens of Dr. Sabatini’s peers and colleagues have shared with us views that are at odds with the investigation and its outcome.”
So a bit of he said, she said, after what sounds like a not very amicable end to a relationship between two colleagues, one of whom was more senior than the other.

Storm in a teacup?
 

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If this is true he got what was coming
Sabatini had fostered a highly sexualized environment in his lab and that he otherwise crossed professional boundaries, culminating in him periodically pressuring her for sex between 2018 and 2020.

I also thought this was a bit damning- a successful product of his lab refusing to defend him even she had the option is anonymity:


Anyway NYU seems to be hinting at more favorable evidence too.
 

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That has been a LONG time coming. I was never a fan of rumour and accusations being enough to convict people on social media. So if he did do these things, I hope the truth comes out finally and he gets proper punishment instead of just being called.a "paedo" on reddit every day.
 

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This could have gone in a religion or even a nonce thread but probably best to leave here. Basically, the Ahmadi big boss (their living Pope) is involved in trying to suppress a woman reporting rape at the highest echelon of that cult.

This will lead to a huge MeToo, involving under age girls probably, over the next few years. Unfortunately this is how cults operate whatever their so called religious background.

https://www.religionobserver.com/re...use-incidents-revealed-this-time-from-canada/