Dean Henderson might start next 6 games; De Gea out for personal reasons

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I remember De Gea's first season Lindergard was playing well then went off on paternity leave and hardly played again, could lightning strike twice ?
 

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Asvan England fan i hope Henderson does really well but he's getting dropped regardless when De Gea is back.

There's no way Ole gives time off for paternity leave and then says "sorry, you fecked off so you've lost your spot". He's not Roy Keane!
 

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I remember De Gea's first season Lindergard was playing well then went off on paternity leave and hardly played again, could lightning strike twice ?
No. He was utterly dreadful in a Wigan home game that we were 4-3 up after like 30 minutes. Dave got his spot back and never looked back.
 

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English players tend to get overrated and I am seeing this as a case of "be careful with what you wish for", actually think De Gea is still a better keeper than him even though he has declined.
 

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Asvan England fan i hope Henderson does really well but he's getting dropped regardless when De Gea is back.

There's no way Ole gives time off for paternity leave and then says "sorry, you fecked off so you've lost your spot". He's not Roy Keane!
I would hope it depends on how well Henderson does. If he comes in and does significantly better during these games than De Gea has been for the last three seasons, then the hope is that Henderson keeps his spot.

Unfortunately you are probably right though.
 

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Asvan England fan i hope Henderson does really well but he's getting dropped regardless when De Gea is back.

There's no way Ole gives time off for paternity leave and then says "sorry, you fecked off so you've lost your spot". He's not Roy Keane!
Well it's as good an excuse as any. It obviously wouldn't be as blunt as that but if Henderson plays well in this period that could be the catalyst for making the change permanent.

Solskjaer has been banging the Henderson drum for a while but hasn't yet made the big call. This would be the easy way of phasing De Gea out without causing too much of a stir. It's getting to a point where if he doesn't make that call his lack of decision will make the decision for him.
 

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Nice little slice of luck for Hendo. Wish De Gea all the best, I am looking forward to seeing how DH does.
 

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a whole month off for the birth of a child seems like a lot no?

its not like footballers don't get plenty of free-time anyway

I wonder if Ole felt like it was a good opportunity to give Hendersen a proper run, without having to "drop" Dave
 

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a whole month off for the birth of a child seems like a lot no?

its not like footballers don't get plenty of free-time anyway

I wonder if Ole felt like it was a good opportunity to give Hendersen a proper run, without having to "drop" Dave
If she gave birth in Manchester Royal Infirmary then he'd probably be playing tomorrow.

What with having to travel to Spain, the covid restrictions and the international break coming up, it seems like a month off I guess.
 

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If she gave birth in Manchester Royal Infirmary then he'd probably be playing tomorrow.

What with having to travel to Spain, the covid restrictions and the international break coming up, it seems like a month off I guess.
ah fair enough, had no idea she gave birth overseas
 

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It’ll be a while before Dave is back to his blundering best. Breast feeding is hard work.... apparently.
esp. if you’re not used to hard work
 

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I wonder whether United are giving DDG time so he thinks about returning to Spain to be with family... That'll make the Henderson decision easier..
 

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I would hope it depends on how well Henderson does. If he comes in and does significantly better during these games than De Gea has been for the last three seasons, then the hope is that Henderson keeps his spot.

Unfortunately you are probably right though.
Yeah I am hoping this is going to be the case as well but absolutely convinced DDG will come straight back into the team after the international break and Deano will be back to being just the cup keeper again
 

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This sounds like good management to me. Maybe the discussion went something like this:

Ole: Dave, I know your wife is having a baby soon, maybe you should take some time off after the birth. How does that sound?

Dave: I would like that, but does this mean I might lose my starting position?

Ole: No, no. We've all had a tough year with all of the matches and everything and this seems to be a perfect time for you to take a break. I think Dean can fill in for you but right now you are number 1.

Dave: Thanks boss. Should it be for 2 or 3 weeks?

Ole: Well speak with your partner and determine an appropriate period. I think this would be good for all parties, you, your baby, your partner, Dean and the club.
 

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He had another two fantastic seasons after that, including arguably his best of all in 17/18. Then he went to the World Cup at the end of that season, had a shocker and has never got anywhere near that top level again.

The club messed up by watching him have the first of those poor seasons in 18/19 and then giving him a huge new contract that made him the highest paid goalkeeper in the world and the highest paid player in England (officially anyway, I don't think anybody would be surprised if City have some players being paid under the table). If we hadn't done that I believe he would have been coming to the end of the previous contract at the end of this season.
 

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A great opportunity for Henderson here.

If he does excellently, he can keep the shirt, if he doesn't he'll have to bide his time a bit more.
De Gea still has 2 years on his insane contract, and I think an option for another the year after.

I still think the most likely event if that he's still first choice next year - eat that contract down.
 

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A great opportunity for Henderson here.

If he does excellently, he can keep the shirt, if he doesn't he'll have to bide his time a bit more.
De Gea still has 2 years on his insane contract, and I think an option for another the year after.

I still think the most likely event if that he's still first choice next year - eat that contract down.
Yeah but will Ole see that way of thinking is the big question though
 

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Yeah but will Ole see that way of thinking is the big question though
It's quite difficult, as we've got one keeper on probably top 5 in the league wages, and the other one on probably top 4 keeper in the league wages!

With the former having 2 years minimum left on his deal, and the latter having had a great season at a lowly team, where keepers often stand out due to the lower expectations and tonne of shots they face. They can't really lose, as if they concede plenty it's expected, and if they save a lot, as will happen as they face so many shots, it gives an unrealistic idea of their level.

But until now, Hendo hasn't had enough challenging games to see if he can deal with the United excperience, way higher pressure, fewer shots against, and more game changing nature of the saves he will have to make.

See Romero - loads of cleanies, but played a lot of the lesser cup games.
 

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It's quite difficult, as we've got one keeper on probably top 5 in the league wages, and the other one on probably top 4 keeper in the league wages!

With the former having 2 years minimum left on his deal, and the latter having had a great season at a lowly team, where keepers often stand out due to the lower expectations and tonne of shots they face. They can't really lose, as if they concede plenty it's expected, and if they save a lot, as will happen as they face so many shots, it gives an unrealistic idea of their level.

But until now, Hendo hasn't had enough challenging games to see if he can deal with the United excperience, way higher pressure, fewer shots against, and more game changing nature of the saves he will have to make.

See Romero - loads of cleanies, but played a lot of the lesser cup games.
Yeah there is no doubt Deano will have plenty of work to do tomorrow with the confidence flowing through them right now, also think that West Ham will definitely cause us some problems in the league game next Sunday as well particularly the likes of Bowen & Antonio. I haven't mentioned about the cup games as he would definitely have played those games whatever the situation with De Gea but not these league ones I am certain of that
 

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A great opportunity for Henderson here.

If he does excellently, he can keep the shirt, if he doesn't he'll have to bide his time a bit more.
De Gea still has 2 years on his insane contract, and I think an option for another the year after.

I still think the most likely event if that he's still first choice next year - eat that contract down.

I have no doubt as soon as De Gea comes back Ole will have him as first choice again.
 

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Think this works out well for all parties.

DDG gets time with his kid. Henderson gets a run of games (that are actually important and not behind half of the 2nd choice backline).

As much DDG has been a good servant, he's not been a title winning level goalkeeper for the last 2-3 years now. One year you can call a blip but feels like his handling / shot stopping has just eroded.
 

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5 games will cover two weeks starting from today, which is the max length of paternity leave. Maybe he is just getting a few extra days to make flights etc., thereby missing a potential sixth. He won't be gone for a month.
 

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English players tend to get overrated and I am seeing this as a case of "be careful with what you wish for", actually think De Gea is still a better keeper than him even though he has declined.
Might be the case but I'm willing to give up De Gea's shot stopping abilities for Henderson's command of his area. It's very plain to see that De Gea does not come off his line and it's had a bad effect on the team.
 

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Might be the case but I'm willing to give up De Gea's shot stopping abilities for Henderson's command of his area. It's very plain to see that De Gea does not come off his line and it's had a bad effect on the team.
Agree with this. de Gea is obviously the better shot stopper, but my feeling is that the team would overall be better off with Henderson as #1. Time will tell though.
 

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5 games will cover two weeks starting from today, which is the max length of paternity leave. Maybe he is just getting a few extra days to make flights etc., thereby missing a potential sixth. He won't be gone for a month.
Probably due to the quarantine needed. Andy Mitten said he's exempt but Ole said he'd have to quarantine which makes sense as he travelled for personal reasons and not work.
 

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Probably due to the quarantine needed. Andy Mitten said he's exempt but Ole said he'd have to quarantine which makes sense as he travelled for personal reasons and not work.
Ah right. I actually forgot about quarantine.
 

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Absolute ballsy move from De Gea to opt for some paternity leave with Henderson chomping at the bit. Made Ole’s life much easier.
 

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Absolute ballsy move from De Gea to opt for some paternity leave with Henderson chomping at the bit. Made Ole’s life much easier.
I think it’ll end De Geas time here. He’ll move back to Spain in the summer to be with his family and we’ll have Henderson next season with a few months as our first team keeper.
 

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Henderson will never have a better chance to show he can be the #1.

Also wouldn't be surprised if this is tactful way from both DDG and the club to ease him out without losing face.
 

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2 clean sheets and an assist. We should not be persisting with a past it De Gea in the hope that after 2 + years he will out of nowhere turn into one of the world's best. Henderson should be the number 1 from here on out.

I actually feel De Gea will benefit from a new environment wasn't the same since the world cup.
 

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Its weird, he didnt have much to do but you would think he was having a worldie listening to Gary