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Didn't see the match just some highlights. That tackle was absolutely awful and along with the apparent racism, it looks like it was a toxic mess.

Apparently Roofe was racially abused on Twitter after the game too, not sure by what 'fans'.
Deserves to be criticized for his high boot to the keeper’s dome, not racially abused, of course.
 
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10k fine?
That's laughable.

At the very least he should be banned from football as a whole for a year, in my opinion.
Think it was sarcasm? As in "this is what EUFA will do".

Clearly says something far more than "you're a tw@t" or "loser". If it was racist, Rangers should've walked off... would've been "over to you UEFA, what's your anti racism stance really?"
 

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Deserves to be criticized for his high boot to the keeper’s dome, not racially abused, of course.
Absolutely. Unfortunately these stupid fecking cretins constantly resort to racism online and face zero ramifications for it.
 

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Think it was sarcasm? As in "this is what EUFA will do".

Clearly says something far more than "you're a tw@t" or "loser". If it was racist, Rangers should've walked off... would've been "over to you UEFA, what's your anti racism stance really?"
they should be disqualified. We cant have to watch the taking of knee and have all this publicity and campaigning and stancing for them to give him a token 50 pence fine and a slap of the wrist.
 

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How do we know what he said was racist ? It could be a general verbal abuse also, although covering his face does raise some suspicions.

Gerrard hasn't been on the right side of history when it comes to racism, i'd take everything he says with a handful of salt!
Stop with this, it must be racist because the great and good of the caf have decided so, without any real proof, of course.
 

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unless it comes out on a mic then how can you punish anyone ? who's to say he aint just gave him some other abuse, Rangers kicked them all over the park and even the incident where it kicks off the rangers player should have saw red for the stamp, Players cover there mouths almost every game now.
 

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Think it was sarcasm? As in "this is what EUFA will do".

Clearly says something far more than "you're a tw@t" or "loser". If it was racist, Rangers should've walked off... would've been "over to you UEFA, what's your anti racism stance really?"
It's not really racist unless it happens on Social Media.
 

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They've done themselves no favors there. If its a police report on it they'll get charged for assault and also punished by UEFA. Would've been wiser to let them deal with it.
Probably not - but if things like this happened more often these Eastern European lads wouldn’t be so quick to shout the word.

the audacity he has to walk up and whisper it in his ear right next to his own black team mate! Ridiculous.

whoever did it deserves to be celebrated.
 

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Kamara’s reaction says it all imo.

Not a fan of violence in any form, but pretty hard to feel sorry for the player who got beaten.
 
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If he has done it and been beaten up, hopefully he’s not suffered a broken jaw or broken nose or anything.
These things are better solved with a 10k fine.
I think I prefer the broken jaw option. :angel:

That said, I'll wait for more information to come out. We've had a few high profile cases in recent years of foreign language misinterprations leading to feelings of racism - Holgate, the PSG sideline thing...even Cavani's tweet, although that was a different circumstance.

Doesn't look good for him though, covering his mouth and all. I know players do that a lot now, but still...
 

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Maybe he just wispered "Crap your sister good team your sister" in his ear
 

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Probably not - but if things like this happened more often these Eastern European lads wouldn’t be so quick to shout the word.

the audacity he has to walk up and whisper it in his ear right next to his own black team mate! Ridiculous.

whoever did it deserves to be celebrated.
Think the appropriate action would've been to walk off then and there, they were pretty much already out of the tie anyway, just do it as a statement and then force UEFAs hand.

Violence is just not gonna change anything. Scare tactics are a sham.
 

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I don't really like the idea we're using a covered mouth as proof it was racist. Players perplexingly cover their mouths when speaking to their teammates.
However the reaction of the Rangers players makes it look like he wasn't exactly exchanging pleasantries.
 

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They bet the guy up after the game?

That's insane. I get he's probably a racist prick but anyone who laid a hand on him could be in for a ban now....
 

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Stop with this, it must be racist because the great and good of the caf have decided so, without any real proof, of course.
Maybe have a read of the opening post. The cafe hasn’t done anything. A player and manager have made the allegation. Coupled with some pretty damning video evidence. If it turns out to be something lost in translation then so be it but seems utterly bizarre to come in here with that attitude.
How do we know what he said was racist ? It could be a general verbal abuse also, although covering his face does raise some suspicion.

Gerrard hasn't been on the right side of history when it comes to racism, i'd take everything he says with a handful of salt!
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I see what you mean ....
 

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I was being sarcastic :lol:

The 10k fine was basically a dig at uefa and their shite penalties for this sort of stuff.
Fair dig at them. It's laughable how they always talk about kicking racism out of football then give barely any penalty.
 

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There are shitebag posters who will jump into this thread to reflexively argue he's lying about being racially abused and that other people are wrong for believing him, even though the players' reaction makes it pretty fecking clear whatever was said was beyond the realms of normal abuse. And they'll do that because that's the sort of thing shitebag posters do in threads about racism. It comes from them being shitebags.
 

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How many people heard Rangers were down to 9 men and thought “Okay. Morelos and who else?”
 

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I don't really like the idea we're using a covered mouth as proof it was racist. Players perplexingly cover their mouths when speaking to their teammates.
However the reaction of the Rangers players makes it look like he wasn't exactly exchanging pleasantries.
combined with the accusations its pretty damning. I doubt they react like that for any other reason. If he calls him a c**t he needent cover his mouth we hear every expletive under the sun on the pitch now weve heard the games in empty stadiums
 

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Think the appropriate action would've been to walk off then and there, they were pretty much already out of the tie anyway, just do it as a statement and then force UEFAs hand.

Violence is just not gonna change anything. Scare tactics are a sham.
Tempers are running high. Walking off was probably the rational decision, but it's hard to blame them for not doing it

Don't agree on the second point though, I hope he got sparked out.
 

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Same as with ridiculous calls on the pitch, when a player reacts like that there’s usually something behind it. fecking pathetic that this kind of thing still goes on.
 

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Tempers are running high. Walking off was probably the rational decision, but it's hard to blame them for not doing it

Don't agree on the second point though, I hope he got sparked out.
That's your emotions talking. But it doesn't affect the other players belief, it doesn't help the cause and it just leaves a status quo where both sides are likely to be further punished.

How is that a win in your book? How does it actually accomplish anything?
 

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I don't really like the idea we're using a covered mouth as proof it was racist. Players perplexingly cover their mouths when speaking to their teammates.
However the reaction of the Rangers players makes it look like he wasn't exactly exchanging pleasantries.
We aren't. We are using Gerrard saying the player told him he was racially abused as evidence.
 

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There are shitebag posters who will jump into this thread to reflexively argue he's lying about being racially abused and that other people are wrong for believing him, even though the players' reaction makes it pretty fecking clear whatever was said was beyond the realms of normal abuse. And they'll do that because that's the sort of thing shitebag posters do in threads about racism. It comes from them being shitebags.
Amen. I was told about this but never really noticed it and I felt there was always some grey area. But it’s clear from two posters in this thread already.

How many people heard Rangers were down to 9 men and thought “Okay. Morelos and who else?”
Yup :lol:
 

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How do we know what he said was racist ? It could be a general verbal abuse also, although covering his face does raise some suspicions.

Gerrard hasn't been on the right side of history when it comes to racism, i'd take everything he says with a handful of salt!
It's the guys reaction, it's instant shock, like evra at anfield. You just can't make that kind of reaction up that quickly.
 

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There are shitebag posters who will jump into this thread to reflexively argue he's lying about being racially abused and that other people are wrong for believing him, even though the players' reaction makes it pretty fecking clear whatever was said was beyond the realms of normal abuse. And they'll do that because that's the sort of thing shitebag posters do in threads about racism. It comes from them being shitebags.
in the last month we seen a Ref put his head to a player for calling him a cheat, we seen Cantona Drop kick a fan for giving him some abuse, been plenty incidents over the years when people have reacted especially when you have been played off the park and down to 9 men and still thinking they have been hard done by, played football with a boy for years and any argument on the park he would just say he was racially abused, our very own Evra was abused and never reacted at all. like i said unless any evidence comes out any punishment will be hard to give out unfortunately
 

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That's your emotions talking. But it doesn't affect the other players belief, it doesn't help the cause and it just leaves a status quo where both sides are likely to be further punished.

How is that a win in your book? How does it actually accomplish anything?
Well with respect we've seen how Uefa and football deal with these incidents in the past, so the idea that anything would have been different this time is laughable.

And hey this racist allegedly got punched in the head. So that's a better outcome than we normally get.

Although I've just watched a video of him getting on the team bus absolutely fine, so you can sleep peacefully with your win that nothing of any consequence is going to happen.
 

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Nothing will come off this. It's hearsay. Clever by the Slavia player to mask his words.

I don't think there's an effective way to stop abuse other than to mic up the players. Would be interesting.

Multi-year ban probably appropriate for Rangers if player was beat up inside Ibrox, but here's to hoping noone saw anything.
 

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Apparently police were called after an incident in the tunnel. Probably got thumped, no big deal. I doubt much will come of it because he was sly and whispered it to one guy while covering his mouth.
 

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in the last month we seen a Ref put his head to a player for calling him a cheat, we seen Cantona Drop kick a fan for giving him some abuse, been plenty incidents over the years when people have reacted especially when you have been played off the park and down to 9 men and still thinking they have been hard done by, played football with a boy for years and any argument on the park he would just say he was racially abused, our very own Evra was abused and never reacted at all. like i said unless any evidence comes out any punishment will be hard to give out unfortunately
Never has a post made such little sense and been so irrelevant. Yet at the same time been so transparent.
 

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Apparently he said 'you ugly bastards' according to Rangers fan's facebook claims.
 
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