And that’s the same is it?
Rangers/Slavia Prague incidents
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Why do you say I am not taking these allegations seriously? And how can you say what dirtiness has to do with this incident? It has to do with the credibility of the guy. If you can kick and stamp on someone or absolutely butcher him in the face you can just as easily lie about something being said.
By all accounts I want the guy to be punished if he said something like that, but for me there are lots of dirty feckers in that incident, not just the racist guy.
Should he get a free pass for being a dirty little shit just because he was racially abused? EDIT: Allegedly abused, but sure as feck kicked the other Slavia player as can be seen in the video.
Terrible challenges but let's not compare it to being racist scum. You're just making yourself look ignorant.
Ridiculous false equivalence. You're obviously not taking the allegations seriously if you're trying desperately to undermine Kamara's credibility.
Guilty as sin if you ask me. To say something with your mouth covered that gets that reaction from two players.
He should get a very long ban. 8 or 9 games at least.
He should get a very long ban. 8 or 9 games at least.
What did we do to you?
It wasn't Kamara that kicked the player, Goldson had the initial challenge, Zungu was the follow up from what I can see in the first video on this page.
Are you saying that riots, massive fights etc in football don’t happen more in Eastern Europe? If yes, then that’s delusional. If no, then quit whining!
What does that even mean? Does it excuse someone for being a shit human being if later he was abused by someone equal to him?
Mate, I know that’s disgusting. Racism shouldn’t be met with violence. It just exacerbates the problem.
That's as stupid argument as you can write.
You still don't get it?
If you want to talk about the kicking and stamping do that in another thread.
There is no "before" in racial abuse, no "but he did", no "it's just personal" .
If the UEFA can proof it, I think they will throw Slavia out of the competition. They have an easy chance to proof their stance without upsetting a major team., it is just too tempting not to.
Whataboutism is a deflection tactic meant to distract from the issue at hand by bringing up something that's not actually relevant to the situation in question. Very popular among Russians and the American Republican party. Kamara's conduct prior to this incident isn't being questioned here and your focus on it is classic whataboutism.
Trying to frame the issue in such a way that it implies that racism against Kamara is at least somewhat understandable and/or justified because of a separate action in the match is one of two things - mind-bogglingly stupid and/or ignorant, or dangerously insidious. Which are you?
Nah, I have no problem and generally do think that violence is many times deserved, karma. If he actually did say that, he's a horrible human being and feel no simpathy for him.
Some of the posts in here are laughable, mainly the ones below..
The Roofe incident was bad and unfortunate for the GK but it was not intentional.
Clearly many on here are basing garbage one a single reckless and bad challenge.
Never seen such an out cry when Nani was sent off, in fact it wasn't even a red according to this site..
Rangers have played great football in Europe and went toe to toe with Benfica/Porto etc. This post is actually embarrassing and complete nonsense.
Not even remotely true. Ryan Kent was halfed non stop and targeted by Slavia players and ref did nithong to stop it. Over both ties they dived, screamed and acting like babies.
The Roofe incident was bad and unfortunate for the GK but it was not intentional.
Clearly many on here are basing garbage one a single reckless and bad challenge.
Attempted murder
Never seen such an out cry when Nani was sent off, in fact it wasn't even a red according to this site..
A post from someone who watches nothing and knows even less.
Rangers have played great football in Europe and went toe to toe with Benfica/Porto etc. This post is actually embarrassing and complete nonsense.
Have a word with yourself, pathetic.
A lengthy ban based on what? Its a red card, it was dangerous and will correctly be a 3 game ban.
The punch wasn’t made up. It has been confirmed by Bah to Danish media.
https://beta.bold.dk/fodbold/nyheder/bah-saa-knytnaeveslag-stemningen-var-ond
And this is why we have a problem here..
First and foremost, Rangers should be heavily sanctioned for their antics during yesterday's game. Two guys kicking a player lay on the floor, a few minutes before one of their players kicks somebody in the face... complete lack of control.
As for the Slavia player who allegedly racially abused, if there's proof then punish him accordingly.
My opinion is that Rangers lost their heads and imploded, and to punch somebody after the game doesn't help a claim which is already difficult to verify.
As for the Slavia player who allegedly racially abused, if there's proof then punish him accordingly.
My opinion is that Rangers lost their heads and imploded, and to punch somebody after the game doesn't help a claim which is already difficult to verify.
Smart comments like this without substance aren't cool, man. At least share your perspective. Completely non-progressive input to a discussion.
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Who knows what he said was racist, fecking calm down with that when you don´t know. Surely what he said is wasn´t good and as sneaky as it is but you shouldnt get provoked by that. Also what are you expecting when you act like a bunch of kids kicking players on the ground and assaulting a goalkeeper. That player should get a year ban for that karate kick and players kicking players on the ground. Is that normal and now you tell me you wouldn´t get triggered and say something stupid. Players offend themselves a lot and shouldn´t react like that.
What happened in the tunnel is another story, they should get banned form Europe for another year or two for that alone. I wonder why there is so many advocates of the so called hard men Gerrard who likes to compensate all his life lack of success. We all know how hithouse player he was and how he let his team play.
Nobody was punched, Police Scotland confirmed no report was made. Deflection tactics from a club who have previous, ie Lukaku incident.
Yep.
I don’t need to pal. Comments equating players kicking each other with racism isn’t cool either but carry on with your own agenda mate
Apologies if confirmed that no report was made, however an eye-witness statement from the Danish Slavia player above confirms the punch took place. Guess we'll never know for sure, unless a Rangers player confirms it!
Likewise, there seems to be a lot of deflection away from Rangers being knocked out away from home after two separate assaults on the pitch and a wholly undisciplined performance. Rangers too have previous, i.e. Not being able to provide a safe environment for visiting players last night, breaking lockdown rules last week, their 'party' in Manchester, their own manager's history with violence and racism.
Dude Nani’s was completely different. He was controlling the ball coming from over his shoulder while the Rangers player could look straight at the keeper and Nani pulled back whereas the Rangers player followed through. Not to mention his foot was head high whereas Nani even midjump only caught the chest.Some of the posts in here are laughable, mainly the ones below..
Not even remotely true. Ryan Kent was halfed non stop and targeted by Slavia players and ref did nithong to stop it. Over both ties they dived, screamed and acting like babies.
The Roofe incident was bad and unfortunate for the GK but it was not intentional.
Clearly many on here are basing garbage one a single reckless and bad challenge.
Attempted murder
Never seen such an out cry when Nani was sent off, in fact it wasn't even a red according to this site..
A post from someone who watches nothing and knows even less.
Rangers have played great football in Europe and went toe to toe with Benfica/Porto etc. This post is actually embarrassing and complete nonsense.
Have a word with yourself, pathetic.
A lengthy ban based on what? Its a red card, it was dangerous and will correctly be a 3 game ban.
“yeah it’s racism but he did do something to deserve it”
It is clear, yet not surprising, that the Slavia player made a racist remark. The covering of the mouth and the reaction of two black players in close proximity confirms suspicions.
I hope the player is found guilty but without concrete evidence it won’t happen as it therefore opens a can of worms.
Utter scumbag though.
I hope the player is found guilty but without concrete evidence it won’t happen as it therefore opens a can of worms.
Utter scumbag though.
Loads of clubs have previous..
Cantona kicking a fan
Roy Keane breaking a players leg
Greenwood ignoring lockdown rules.
Safe environment??
Nah, I'm being serious, because I understand exactly what Kostov is saying and I want to hear a different perspective so I can potentially adjust my views. "You're wrong" with no why is utterly pointless.
In isolation, if somebody asked me whether I would rather be kicked in the face or racially abused (have experience of both!), I would choose the abuse every time. Sticks and stones etc.
When I played Sunday League football in Manchester there would always be a player that would throw out a sly slur my way and it never really bothered me because I always thought, "I doubt they're actually racist or hate me because of the colour of my skin, they're just trying to get a rise out of me to influence the game."
Again, just my personal perspective. Would like to hear yours too.
There is an alarming amount of people on here who seems to use deflection tactics when racism is involved. The fact Gerrard has commented on it does not make it any less believable. What a strange mentality.
Gerrard is a tool and always will be but somehow this topic has been riddled by Man Utd fans somewhat condoning the racial abuse because Gerrard is the manager. Mental.
Gerrard is a tool and always will be but somehow this topic has been riddled by Man Utd fans somewhat condoning the racial abuse because Gerrard is the manager. Mental.
So you say those posts are laughable hmmm.Some of the posts in here are laughable, mainly the ones below..
Not even remotely true. Ryan Kent was halfed non stop and targeted by Slavia players and ref did nithong to stop it. Over both ties they dived, screamed and acting like babies.
The Roofe incident was bad and unfortunate for the GK but it was not intentional.
Clearly many on here are basing garbage one a single reckless and bad challenge.
Attempted murder
Never seen such an out cry when Nani was sent off, in fact it wasn't even a red according to this site..
A post from someone who watches nothing and knows even less.
Rangers have played great football in Europe and went toe to toe with Benfica/Porto etc. This post is actually embarrassing and complete nonsense.
Have a word with yourself, pathetic.
A lengthy ban based on what? Its a red card, it was dangerous and will correctly be a 3 game ban.
You just gave a good example for one possible way of thinking behind a racist narrative. You presume that there are more "riots, massive fights, etc." in football in Eastern Europe. Slavia Prague is from Eastern Europe. Conclusion: "these people" are surely up for a good fight.
What a shit post. Meetimg racism with punch ups will definitely help the problem won’t it?
Bore off. Not replying after this. How dense can one be?
Think you should watch Nanis again as he and the player are both high up in a jump off the ground and if the opposition players head was lowered a similar result would have occurred.
Roofe also connected with the ball first.
Both 100% red cards, reckless and endangering an opponent. 3 game ban will be confirmed by Uefa.
Because it's a black and white issue. Racism is never acceptable, it doesn't matter how many players get kicked. Trying to frame it like there's some threshold of bad fouls after which point it's ok to call someone a racial slur is comically idiotic.
Yeah, I know.
Was playing devil's advocate that (almost) all clubs 'have previous'!Do you honestly believe that there is a chance that the Rangers players are making this up? Look at the incident again, it's fairly obvious the Slavia player has something to hide, and then watch the immediate reaction as he says it.
Also look at the club statement:
"After one of the brutal fouls, Ondřej Kúdela spoke to one of the Rangers players. “I told him ‘You fecking guy’. It was said in emotions, but I absolutely deny there was anything racist in those words,” Kúdela stated."
There is no way this would cause such a reaction - and also no way he would have to cover up his mouth before saying it. He's not telling the truth here.
Car crash of a post. Explain why he would cover his mouth and why another Rangers player who also happened to be black was immediately outraged and said he used the word 'monkey' to taunt Kamara? You would rather go out of your way and accuse them of lying and portraying themselves as victims while ruining a player's reputation for what exactly? Does that make sense to you?
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