Leicester City 3:1 Manchester United

Bulldog United · Mar 21, 2021

OhGee said:
And yet it was Maguire/Fred for the first goal, Fred,Matic and Lindelof for the second and Mctominay that settled it for the third. VDB’s dummy set up our goal and wait for it Ole’s substitutions to take of Pogba and allowing Bruno to play with a wonderfully skillful and creative pivot of Fred and Mctominay when we chasing the game....

I would have dropped Donny back into Fred's position and tried to be a bit more creative from the middle. VDB couldn't have done any worse than Fred there today. Ole just doesn't trust him so Fred stays in position with his Mc.

U.N.C.L.E · Mar 21, 2021

The Greenwood goal, 15 seconds into the clip “for feck’s sake”....

Summed up the day, eh?

pascell · Mar 21, 2021

Bondi77 said:
Probably a blessing in disguise but I do not get coverage of FA Cup and it sounds like we were garbage today.

Imagine LvG football, with a mix of them kept pressing and getting the ball off us and our players constantly passing to their players, including Fred putting their striker through with a 8 yard back pass.

DomesticTadpole · Mar 21, 2021

Salus Populi Suprema Lex said:
Very poor today; I think we were all expecting much better in a quarter-final. Leicester fully deserved the win; we were lacking energy and enthusiasm, and you can't win cup ties with a bad attitude. It was sloppy and everything was far too slow. Leicester's first goal summed up our performance.

A chance of a trophy gone; we need to go all the way in the Europa League.

Agree. They should have been desperate to win this game. If we fail in another competition then a serious look needs to be taken at Ole.

OhGee · Mar 21, 2021

Who's Kissing Cameras? said:
Leicester’s midfield dominated all game. Ndidi and Tielemans are leagues above Fred, Matic and even McT to a lesser degree.

Nope they are miles ahead of all three. I’m not sure why everyone shields McT - he was shit today and cost us a goal. He takes too many touches on the ball and thinks he is Messi but for feck sakes at 6’2 he has does not have the CoG to try and do what he undertakes. He needs to understand his limitations better and play to his strengths more. And he is not a CDM - I repeat he does not have the qualities to be a good CDM...

The Brown Bull · Mar 21, 2021

What was Maguire thinking passing to Fred with a man on?
What was Fred thinking before passing to Ihenacho?
Why did we start so poorly?
Why did nobody close Tielemans?
Very poor stuff from us today on & off the pitch.

DomesticTadpole · Mar 21, 2021

Bulldog United said:
I would have dropped Donny back into Fred's position and tried to be a bit more creative from the middle. VDB couldn't have done any worse than Fred there today. Ole just doesn't trust him so Fred stays in position with his Mc.

One of the M.E.N reporters said he would have dropped Donny deeper and taken Fred off. Surely he could see Fred was having a nightmare.

Rustyspider13 · Mar 21, 2021

DomesticTadpole said:
The marking at set pieces is down to bad coaching or extremely stupid players. Probably a bit of both. Also you only catch up with the speed of our play if you are playing. He needed to have the courage to say, I am putting you in there for at least ten games as you did not get a pre-season. Taking a new player in and out does not do them any favours. Looking at the Leicester midfield I cannot believe we bought Fred. Matic definitely needs replacing. They should have done it a couple of years back instead of handing him a new contract. SAF was ruthless and knew exactly when to get rid of players.

I understand the point about VdB, but he has to take risks by now. In the first half, a simple give and go with Fred was on, as was a throughball to Mason and he didn't take both of them. I'm not asking him to ping a pass over the defense, but those passes are his bread and butter and he should be playing them. But VdB is not my biggest problem today. He just isn't ready to be Bruno's backup. Yet.

And SAF had complete control of United. Can anyone claim Ole does? He can't be manager, negotiator and scout and the same time. He is an excellent man manager, but an average coach and if the people above and around him keep passing their share of the responsibility, he'll be the one getting the sack and we'll start all over again. I'd just like to see the glaring, obvious flaws of the team addressed before saying the manager is the weakest link.

Forevergiggs1 · Mar 21, 2021

DomesticTadpole said:
Not sure I like much about this side after today.

Haven't liked anything about this side for a while now. People can point to games like City, PSG, Liverpool or Leipzig to say progress is being made but to me it's the opposite. Big game raising cnuts springs to mind which is a small club mentality. No bottle from either the manager or the players.

paulscholes18 · Mar 21, 2021

3 basic errors have cost us the game, how Fred was still playing after half time I will never know, how shit do you have to be to come off, you bring Bruno on but yet take Pogba & VDB off how counter productive can you get, having fecking McFred playing when you need a goal it’s hopeless in game management.

DomesticTadpole · Mar 21, 2021

Rustyspider13 said:
I understand the point about VdB, but he has to take risks by now. In the first half, a simple give and go with Fred was on, as was a throughball to Mason and he didn't take both of them. I'm not asking him to ping a pass over the defense, but those passes are his bread and butter and he should be playing them. But VdB is not my biggest problem today. He just isn't ready to be Bruno's backup. Yet.

And SAF had complete control of United. Can anyone claim Ole does? He can't be manager, negotiator and scout and the same time. He is an excellent man manager, but an average coach and if the people above and around him keep passing their share of the responsibility, he'll be the one getting the sack and we'll start all over again. I'd just like to see the glaring, obvious flaws of the team addressed before saying the manager is the weakest link.

Think most top manager/coaches would expect a certain amount of control. I am inclined to think they tell Ole he has, but actually he doesn't at all.

Utd heap · Mar 21, 2021

Another underwhelming performance on the back of a good week. Sums up the season so far.

As others mentioned, it did have the fell of the Chelsea semi final last year. We just did not turn up / did not appear to really 'want it'.

Bruno and Shaw rested was a real kicker. I can't understand it myself and it keeps those questions over Ole in the big moments rolling on and on.

kerrygold · Mar 21, 2021

Does Ole improve the players?

MartinRed · Mar 21, 2021

We were shite. I saw no leaders on pitch and no leaders among the coaching staff today. Lack of slightest desire to win this game. Deserved win for Leicester.

DomesticTadpole · Mar 21, 2021

Forevergiggs1 said:
Haven't liked anything about this side for a while now. People can point to games like City, PSG, Liverpool or Leipzig to say progress is being made but to me it's the opposite. Big game raising cnuts springs to mind which is a small club mentality. No bottle from either the manager or the players.

Those games don't mean anything, when we are going to finish miles behind City, Liverpool were shambolic at the time and the CL games mean feck all when we lost the games against them that actually mattered.

VidaRed · Mar 21, 2021

We should have started like this:

-------------------------Henderson-----------------------
----AWB------Lindelof------Maguire-----Shaw--
----------------------Mct---------Pogba------------------
---Greenwood------Bruno-----------Martial------
---------------------------Cavani----------------------------

NecssryEvil · Mar 21, 2021

RRCE said:
Ole will likely blame the Thursday - Sunday schedule, saying it caught up with us today, but he should hang his head in shame after that game. It’s decision making like he demonstrated today (with the starting lineup, the tactics, and the substitutions) that convince many that he’s just doesn’t have the quality we need in a Manager. Absolutely dreadful from him today.

Beyond that, the players should be embarrassed. Ridiculous errors to see from professional players, let alone Manchester United players. Too many of them just aren’t good enough, due to lack of talent, lack of spirit, or both.

So the players aren’t good enough, make a lot of errors, lack spirit and are coming off an away trip to Italy giving them very little time to recoup but the manager should hang his head in shame?

Got It.

Maybe if the manager had some players that are good enough, don’t make as many errors and have the fighting spirit you are looking for he might be able to be better evaluated on his lineups, tactics and subs.

Red00012 · Mar 21, 2021

Bulldog United said:
I would have dropped Donny back into Fred's position and tried to be a bit more creative from the middle. VDB couldn't have done any worse than Fred there today. Ole just doesn't trust him so Fred stays in position with his Mc.

Said the same thing myself . Why doesn’t Ole play Van De Beek deeper ? Couldn’t have been any worse than that shitshow by Fred today

Bondi77 · Mar 21, 2021

pascell said:
Imagine LvG football, with a mix of them kept pressing and getting the ball off us and our players constantly passing to their players, including Fred putting their striker through with a 8 yard back pass.

Sounds like I would not have been able to stay awake

Pogue Mahone · Mar 21, 2021

Utd heap said:
Another underwhelming performance on the back of a good week. Sums up the season so far.

As others mentioned, it did have the fell of the Chelsea semi final last year. We just did not turn up / did not appear to really 'want it'.

Bruno and Shaw rested was a real kicker. I can't understand it myself and it keeps those questions over Ole in the big moments rolling on and on.

The timing was bizarre. Keep them fresh for international duty?

DomesticTadpole · Mar 21, 2021

NecssryEvil said:
So the players aren’t good enough, make a lot of errors, lack spirit and are coming off an away trip to Italy giving them very little time to recoup but the manager should hang his head in shame?

Got It.

Maybe if the manager had some players that are good enough, don’t make as many errors and have the fighting spirit you are looking for he might be able to be better evaluated on his lineups, tactics and subs.

Don't think some of the players are good enough, but neither is the manager. Ole now has to go out and prove (yes as a manager he does need to prove himself) that he is a winner and has even a modicum of ambition.

DomesticTadpole · Mar 21, 2021

19:51Richard Fay
Solskjaer defends team selection
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has defended his team selection in tonight's defeat.

"I would've done the same again, the changes were necessary to do," he told BBC Sport. "We knew Paul [Pogba] wouldn't last more than an hour and I don't think I would do anything differently. What goes on behind the scenes isn't always known."

VidaRed · Mar 21, 2021

Pogue Mahone said:
The timing was bizarre. Keep them fresh for international duty?

Internationals are more important than cup games.

Redlyn · Mar 21, 2021

Paranoid Android said:
Completely outplayed. Leicester are, quite simply, on a completely different level to us.

But somehow this vastly superior team is actually behind us on the table....hmm.

VidaRed · Mar 21, 2021

DomesticTadpole said:
19:51Richard Fay
Solskjaer defends team selection
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has defended his team selection in tonight's defeat.

Ok pogba is fine. But what about bruno, shaw and cavani ? Cavani was already well rested.

Fact of the matter is Ole wanted to play with 2 dm's through the middle.

Salus Populi Suprema Lex · Mar 21, 2021

Redlyn said:
But somehow this vastly superior team is actually behind us on the table....hmm.

Correct. Leicester aren't a better team than us, but they were definitely better on the day. Our attitude was all wrong; Leicester seemed to want it more today.

Forevergiggs1 · Mar 21, 2021

DomesticTadpole said:
Those games don't mean anything, when we are going to finish miles behind City, Liverpool were shambolic at the time and the CL games mean feck all when we lost the games against them that actually mattered.

These should of been moral boosting games because taken individually they were very good performances and it does show how good this team can be but then we revert back to playing awful football which was why I mentioned game raising cnuts. Weak team, weak manager.

Rustyspider13 · Mar 21, 2021

DomesticTadpole said:
Think most top manager/coaches would expect a certain amount of control. I am inclined to think they tell Ole he has, but actually he doesn't at all.

I agree with that. First transfer window-owners to Ole, pick one-attack or defense, can't do both. Ole picked defense, we were in danger of losing top 4 due to Pogba and Rashford injuries, the owners finally got Bruno. Result-we made top 4. Yay.

Second window-Sancho will be bought. Grealish is a target. A pacey CB prospect like Gabriel/Badiashile is being looked at. But we got none of them. No first teamers. Most effective signing was Telles who pushed Shaw into good form. Result-remains to be seen.

It's clear that Ole isn't working with a board that puts football first.

Stormrage101MUFC · Mar 21, 2021

Well, can't say I'm surprised. Too bad since we have a good record against Man City and may have been able to stop them winning this trophy, which they now surely will. At least we still have the Europa League with a better draw.

tayside red · Mar 21, 2021

I watch DVB when he does get on the pitch, he can't get rid of the ball quick enough, he doesn't bust a gut or tbh make any serious attempt to keep up with or make any worthwhile runs.
I see him waving his arms and calling for the ball, but he's just never in a position where passing to him is going to force the play, I'm at a loss with him.
We have been flattering to deceive for ages now.
Some of our decision making on the pitch and Off it has to be addressed, playing out from the back is like Russian Roulette, we just can't do it effectively for 90 minutes, sometimes a hump up the park reaps rewards.
Our passing and defending has been dire to say the least in many a game this season, how we are still 2nd is beyond me sometimes.
Will we stay in the top 4, Chelsea are on a roll, Leicester will be there, we might end up in 4th position the way were going about things, not good enough, we should have cemented 2nd place by now.
Covid and the relentless games isn't helping any of the teams playing in multiple competitions, fatigue is a problem, but that's affecting all teams, and we have one of te largest squads
Favourites for the EL, we should be, will we win it, I'm not sure we have the drive and desire?

Schmeichel=God · Mar 21, 2021

bosnian_red said:
Fully expected a loss here tbh. We've had way too many games these past few months, too many injuries that meant we couldn't rotate enough and have just had a very tough game in Milan on Thursday. Leicester is also a very good team. Would've been nice, but with the timing of the game we really needed an easy tie to get through, no chance to win any tough game. Good time for the international break to refresh and get fit for the Europa League and cementing 2nd in the league.

No excuse for nigh on a full 90 minutes of sheer shite being second best in EVERY regard.

A bad game usually has 20 minutes of threat, or stringing some passes together. This today was utterly embarrassing all over.

Keane MUTV worthy imo tbh.

Mike Oxard · Mar 21, 2021

I’m not losing sleep about it. The Europa League is our main focus and it’s winnable given who’s left in it. We’d have to get past Southampton in the semi which we’d probably fall at again and then most likely City in the FA Cup, so a real long shot. Granada in the QF of the Europa League should be winnable and then anything can happen. It could still be a great season by current standards.

bosnian_red · Mar 21, 2021

Schmeichel=God said:
No excuse for nigh on a full 90 minutes of sheer shite being second best in EVERY regard.

A bad game usually has 20 minutes of threat, or stringing some passes together. This today was utterly embarrassing all over.

Keane MUTV worthy imo tbh.

It's not an excuse, the performance is literally what I expected though. We're a good team who needed a week off desperately. This game came too soon for us and at the perfect time for Leicester. Energy levels are sometimes all that is required to make the other team 2nd best in every department.

Cantonagotmehere · Mar 21, 2021

VidaRed said:
We should have started like this:

-------------------------Henderson-----------------------
----AWB------Lindelof------Maguire-----Shaw--
----------------------Mct---------Pogba------------------
---Greenwood------Bruno-----------Martial------
---------------------------Cavani----------------------------

I don't think we will ever see it under Ole. It's depressing.

Mike Oxard · Mar 21, 2021

Siorac said:
The so-called progress under Ole is basically Bruno Fernandes. He's papering over absolutely massive cracks.

He looked utterly dejected when he walked off today. I think that he’s realising his worth and that Utd can’t match his expectations. It wouldn’t surprise me if his agent started angling for a move.

emperortan · Mar 21, 2021

Can't understand why Ole let his first team play as hard as they must in all previous games just to sacrifice the cup by using 2nd team in quarterfinal (due to exhaustion of first team players). A ManUtd with no clear campaign to follow.

Jimmyheals · Mar 21, 2021

Why Fred even made it to half-time is beyond me, but to play 80 mins? Between Fred and Matic, they created at least 5 chances for Leicester. They did a great job killing our attacks and starting theirs. How could Ole not see how poor they were today? Agree with those that said Fred should have come off and DvB dropped deeper.

For those complaining about DvB, what is he supposed to do? He’s got Fred and Matic, who were both shocking, behind him and Martial, sleepwalking in front of him. There is not a player including Bruno, who could have fixed the performance of those three today. In addition, the goal was the only bright spot today, and his dummy was excellent.

Asger · Mar 21, 2021

Bulldog United said:
I would have dropped Donny back into Fred's position and tried to be a bit more creative from the middle. VDB couldn't have done any worse than Fred there today. Ole just doesn't trust him so Fred stays in position with his Mc.

I would have done the same but could he really play more minutes? Has hardly played much recently and been injured as well.

Swearing Budgie · Mar 21, 2021

Mike Oxard said:
I’m not losing sleep about it. The Europa League is our main focus and it’s winnable given who’s left in it. We’d have to get past Southampton in the semi which we’d probably fall at again and then most likely City in the FA Cup, so a real long shot. Granada in the QF of the Europa League should be winnable and then anything can happen. It could still be a great season by current standards.

Utd fans bigging up the European Spoon. Wow, what a decline in expectations!

Solius · Mar 21, 2021

They’d played one game in the time we recently had to play 5. That showed and they played better and deserved the win.

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