100m is a huge sum of money, and do you really think prices will be higher than before covid?
especially if he's available next season for a lot less, I don't see it climbing that high personally.
Erling Haaland
- Thread starter Samid
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
- Status
- Not open for further replies.
especially if he's available next season for a lot less, I don't see it climbing that high personally.
Siorac
Full Member
- Joined
- Sep 1, 2010
- Messages
- 23,815
It's never a 100%, it's never guaranteed. Dortmund finished second in 2018/19, then finished second again next season with fewer points and now they're battling for CL qualification, with Haaland scoring freely. They got him and still went backwards. That's how football is.Yep, we're 2nd now. Add his goals to this team and we wouldn't be worse off, we'd 100% progress on how we're doing now. If we can get him this year, sort the rest out next year
2ndTouch
Full Member
- Joined
- Mar 13, 2015
- Messages
- 2,643
- Supports
- Bayern München
He's set not be the next big thing, but the next uber-thing. Covid might have had an impact, but not such an extent that you'll get one of the two next superstars at a discount.100m is a huge sum of money, and do you really think prices will be higher than before covid?
especially if he's available next season for a lot less, I don't see it climbing that high personally.
Matthew84!
Full Member
I'd give Dortmund 100 million and DVB for Haaland, then swap Martial for Sancho,
Adam-Utd
Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid
- Joined
- Sep 10, 2010
- Messages
- 39,954
We shall see. I don't see how any normal club could afford that though. Maybe PSG/CITY with unlimited wealth.He's set not be the next big thing, but the next uber-thing. Covid might have had an impact, but not such an extent that you'll get one of the two next superstars at a discount.
RkkMan
Full Member
- Joined
- May 16, 2019
- Messages
- 2,179
COVID discount doesn't apply to players like Haaland, Mbappe and Sancho due to their age and guaranteed potential. Haaland's value now on Transfermarkt for starters is €110m and counting by the summer it'll be closer to €150m with 3 years left on his deal so from a business perspective selling him for €100m is bonkers it's a huge depreciation on his value.100m is a huge sum of money, and do you really think prices will be higher than before covid?
especially if he's available next season for a lot less, I don't see it climbing that high personally.
Factor in how important he is to BVB and how stubborn they are with prices remember €120m or nothing with Sancho and Haaland is a bigger talent mind you?
Also if they get CL football(they are just 4 points off a CL place) and how they are a PR team do you really think they'll sell Sancho and Haaland in the same window? It'll be disastrous for their image having him for an extra season with Marco Rose and a rebuild from funds they'll get for Sancho will put them closer to Bayern, give them a good chance of getting far in the CL and maybe win a Trophy. All those reasons makes it very unlikely they sell Haaland cheaply
- Joined
- Sep 9, 2017
- Messages
- 1,215
Both made valid points, it might be hard to find a buyer that pays 3 times his release clause next year. on the other hand,Dortmund might have to lower that price or he'll go for peanuts next year.We shall see. I don't see how any normal club could afford that though. Maybe PSG/CITY with unlimited wealth.
sglowrider
Thinks the caf is 'wokeish'.
Embarrassing.Basically sugardaddy club fee
LawCharltonBest
Enjoys watching fox porn
Every Summer we get linked to an unrealistic target who people fool themselves into believing could sign for us.
Haaland will be that for Summer 2021
Haaland will be that for Summer 2021
AaronRedDevil
Full Member
- Joined
- Jun 28, 2018
- Messages
- 9,563
That’s just bad business for Dortmund. Make 100m easily this summer or less then half that the next.
Adam-Utd
Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid
- Joined
- Sep 10, 2010
- Messages
- 39,954
Where are clubs going to find this 100m + when they've not made any profit in over a year? unless it's borrowed in the hope society returns as normal which is still a bit risky.COVID discount doesn't apply to players like Haaland, Mbappe and Sancho due to their age and guaranteed potential. Haaland's value now on Transfermarkt for starters is €110m and counting by the summer it'll be closer to €150m with 3 years left on his deal so from a business perspective selling him for €100m is bonkers it's a huge depreciation on his value.
Factor in how important he is to BVB and how stubborn they are with prices remember €120m or nothing with Sancho and Haaland is a bigger talent mind you?
Also if they get CL football(they are just 4 points off a CL place) and how they are a PR team do you really think they'll sell Sancho and Haaland in the same window? It'll be disastrous for their image having him for an extra season with Marco Rose and a rebuild from funds they'll get for Sancho will put them closer to Bayern, give them a good chance of getting far in the CL and maybe win a Trophy. All those reasons makes it very unlikely they sell Haaland cheaply
IMO Dortmund won't want to risk clubs saying "ok you keep him 1 more year then we'll take him for 50m instead". They played that game with Sancho and we didn't take the bait, now he's going to be worth a lot less again, and will be even less if he doesn't leave again next summer.
I think they'll cash in, they'll make huge profit on Haaland whatever fee.
RkkMan
Full Member
- Joined
- May 16, 2019
- Messages
- 2,179
A huge profit on €75m is from at least €120-130m €100m just gives you a €25m money they can easily get when they qualify for the CL on top of selling Sancho and a few other fringe players €100m is insulting for a player like Haaland and frankly I doubt they care where clubs get the money as long as some one pays up or they'll happily keep him. This same club sold Dembele for €150m even after he handed in a transfer request and refused to train. They aren't the pushovers you thinkWhere are clubs going to find this 100m + when they've not made any profit in over a year? unless it's borrowed in the hope society returns as normal which is still a bit risky.
IMO Dortmund won't want to risk clubs saying "ok you keep him 1 more year then we'll take him for 50m instead". They played that game with Sancho and we didn't take the bait, now he's going to be worth a lot less again, and will be even less if he doesn't leave again next summer.
I think they'll cash in, they'll make huge profit on Haaland whatever fee.
Adam-Utd
Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid
- Joined
- Sep 10, 2010
- Messages
- 39,954
It doesn't matter whether they are or not, he walks for £50m if they don't sell this summer.A huge profit on €75m is from at least €120-130m €100m just gives you a €25m money they can easily get when they qualify for the CL on top of selling Sancho and a few other fringe players €100m is insulting for a player like Haaland and frankly I doubt they care where clubs get the money as long as some one pays up or they'll happily keep him. This same club sold Dembele for €150m even after he handed in a transfer request and refused to train. They aren't the pushovers you think
dinostar77
Full Member
- Joined
- Feb 6, 2014
- Messages
- 7,236
Surely thats a bulls*** tweet. Dortmund might not want to sell but as others have said next summer he can leave for £75mil. £180mil is completely and utterly ridiculous in a covid environment.Why would anyone buy him for 180 when he is available for 75 next year.
They are gonna have to sell either Sancho or Haaland this summer if they dont qualify for CL. Maybe they have done their homework and realised that the only PSG and CITY really have the funds to get Haaland this summer and they will settle for a stupid £120mil or something. Start out high and climb down abit.
NoLogo
Full Member
Well no kidding. They are a B tier club. Without player sales their revenue is about half of that of Bayern, let alone any of the other big clubs in Europe. So training and selling young super talented players is somewhat their business model and I doubt this is changing any time soon unless they find a way of closing the financial gap to the big boys.If true, It makes Dortumd so classless and mercenary. Such small club behaviour.
VP89
Pogba's biggest fan
- Joined
- Dec 6, 2015
- Messages
- 31,441
How is it claseless? They can't compete with the big clubs on sponsorships and right now they lost a huge chunk of matchday revenue. They are well within their right to demand this.If true, It makes Dortumd so classless and mercenary. Such small club behaviour.
balaks
Full Member
Because 'big clubs' allow their best players to be sold at less than their market value?If true, It makes Dortumd so classless and mercenary. Such small club behaviour.
Siorac
Full Member
- Joined
- Sep 1, 2010
- Messages
- 23,815
A lot of people have a weird chip on their shoulder when it comes to the Bundesliga and particularly Dortmund. I have no idea why.How is it claseless? They can't compete with the big clubs on sponsorships and right now they lost a huge chunk of matchday revenue. They are well within their right to demand this.
Matriac
Full Member
- Joined
- Jan 23, 2020
- Messages
- 1,479
You love to see it.A lot of people have a weird chip on their shoulder when it comes to the Bundesliga and particularly Dortmund. I have no idea why.
Not really. German players also spelled out "Human Rights" before there game 4 of which were Bayern players with Qatar on their shirts one was Gundo who plays for City. The backlash would be worse if they opted against it.Did you see how he was part of the Norwegian pro human rights campaign against Qatar yesterday? This might raise awareness around sportswashing and make it a lot harder to sign for PSG and City, unless you wanna be seen as ignorant or cynical. Hard to wear the "Human rights, on and off the pitch" and "Respect, on and off the pitch" t-shirts with the NT and sign for Abu Dhabi or Qatar without looking extremely bad.
How did that work out last summer?How is it claseless? They can't compete with the big clubs on sponsorships and right now they lost a huge chunk of matchday revenue. They are well within their right to demand this.
RkkMan
Full Member
- Joined
- May 16, 2019
- Messages
- 2,179
£70m not £50m and again look back at everything I've outlinedIt doesn't matter whether they are or not, he walks for £50m if they don't sell this summer.
balaks
Full Member
Pretty good I'd say as they got another season with one of the best strikers on the planet playing for them?How did that work out last summer?
Small club syndrome. They leach players on freebies and then rip off other clubs whilst also being Bayern’s b*tch. Also the way they tweet nonsense from the club account.A lot of people have a weird chip on their shoulder when it comes to the Bundesliga and particularly Dortmund. I have no idea why.
And they didn’t sell us Sancho :-(
passing-wind
Full Member
- Joined
- Oct 20, 2013
- Messages
- 3,041
It largely depends on who bids for the player but one thing is Dortmund don't have much of a foot to stand on given the following season he's got a significantly lower clause. 100 million is still a beneficial sum. I think realistically it won't go above 120. No club really is in such a financial position aside the oil lot to reject 100+ million as every club in world football is losing money left right and centre on a weekly basis as a result of COVID.100m? You think that's realistic and rather pushing it, huh?
If he goes this summer it'll be for 150m at least. He's bound to duke out the next ten Ballon d'Ors with Mbappe. It's hilarious to suggest 100m to be an adequate fee.
Samid
He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
Sancho isn't a striker never mind one of the best on the planet. Not cashing in on him last summer has left them way too top-heavy and unbalanced, and in real danger of missing out on top 4.Pretty good I'd say as they got another season with one of the best strikers on the planet playing for them?
balaks
Full Member
Oh sorry I thought we were talking about Haaland.. easy mistake considering which thread we are in! Still the same argument though - they kept a very good player so they hardly lost out.Sancho isn't a striker never mind one of the best on the planet. Not cashing in on him last summer has left them way too top-heavy and unbalanced, and in real danger of missing out on top 4.
Organic Potatoes
Full Member
Is the reported buyout clause even legit? I’ve seen contradicting statements on it, and that would influence the negotiations this summer.
Samid
He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
Sancho has been crap almost all season (apart from January). Their squad is unbalanced and they're in danger of missing out on top 4. That's losing out.Oh sorry I thought we were talking about Haaland.. easy mistake considering which thread we are in! Still the same argument though - they kept a very good player so they hardly lost out.
balaks
Full Member
It's a bit of a stretch to suggest that all of that is down to not selling Sancho.Sancho has been crap almost all season (apart from January). Their squad is unbalanced and they're in danger of missing out on top 4. That's losing out.
Offsideagain
Full Member
And so the silly season has begun. Agents I suggest are talking up the fees and Dortmund are cooperatin. Not even City would pay whichever fee you believe as he would be on a free in 2022. The transfer market looks a dark place and I imagine deals will be done on the quite with some agents making tens of millions out of footballers. He will probably end up at City next year on a free and huge salary.
Siorac
Full Member
- Joined
- Sep 1, 2010
- Messages
- 23,815
Hahh, the white text. I think it's mostly that. Perhaps there's some residual anger for Mkhitaryan who turned out to be a bit shit.Small club syndrome. They leach players on freebies and then rip off other clubs whilst also being Bayern’s b*tch. Also the way they tweet nonsense from the club account.
And they didn’t sell us Sancho :-(
lex talionis
Full Member
- Joined
- Jul 25, 2017
- Messages
- 13,875
United would be wise to put in a tempting offer for Haaland this summer but be prepared to be outbid by City and PSG. But what we can’t do is not even launch a bid for him. We need a top 9 and that he very much is. Not at any price, mind you, but around 100m is about right.
VP89
Pogba's biggest fan
- Joined
- Dec 6, 2015
- Messages
- 31,441
They kept a player they wanted to keep. They will still sell Sancho for a strong fee when the time comes. I wouldn't really scrutinize Dortmund on transfers, they tend to do a very good job of flipping players for big amounts.How did that work out last summer?
Ladron de redcafe
Full Member
- Joined
- Oct 25, 2020
- Messages
- 3,681
I think so as well. And he would be worth it. This isn't a relative unknown with potential. He's already one of the greatest players in the world on an upward trajectory.100m? You think that's realistic and rather pushing it, huh?
If he goes this summer it'll be for 150m at least. He's bound to duke out the next ten Ballon d'Ors with Mbappe. It's hilarious to suggest 100m to be an adequate fee.
Kaos
Full Member
Not necessarily. They could stand to lose as much if they weaken themselves considerably by letting him go, and potentially miss out on Champions league football after the end of the next season which could prove almost as costly as the reduction of his transfer fee. They also have a potentially world class coach in Rose joining them next season, so its feasible they'd have a good campaign if they can keep Haaland.That’s just bad business for Dortmund. Make 100m easily this summer or less then half that the next.
Hansi Fick
New Member
- Joined
- Oct 16, 2020
- Messages
- 5,057
- Supports
- FC Bayern
Exactly that.Thats a feck off for now price. Means we can get Sancho this year and make a good run at presenting ourselves as an elite prospect for him next summer.
Samid
He's no Bilal Ilyas Jhandir
If Sancho actually played like a 120m player this season then Dortmund wouldn't be struggling to make top 4. If you demand that kind of money for a player then you can't afford him to follow it up with such an underperforming season. That 120m is equivalent to 150m+ in a non-covid market.It's a bit of a stretch to suggest that all of that is down to not selling Sancho.
No one will pay 80m for Sancho this summer. So they'll either be forced to sell him on a major discount or sell Haaland if they want to dig themselves out of their problems.
- Status
- Not open for further replies.