Film Netflix pay $450m for Knives Out sequels
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
They've got money to burn dont they.
Yeah, first one was a good watch. Will have to keep an eye out for these.
Never heard of it. What an earth is Knives out?
Netflix films tend to be shite compared to their series. Often find they seem rushed/the writing is really jarred. They feel like everyone working on them never spends any real time working together.
Loved Knives Out. Sure Netflix will butcher it.
Loved Knives Out. Sure Netflix will butcher it.
A underrated Radiohead song and an overrated film.
Something I realised recently, their Netflix produced products aren't necessarily always Netflix. Some of the stuff they've just bought the rights to and put Netflix on it. Think Amazon are guilty of this too.
Is it not a good murder mystery film? Cus that's all it is?
No film with Daniel Craig attempting a pompous deep South accent can be considered a good film.
Didn’t even know it was a franchise.
Nice! I loved it too, and this means cinema closures won't be affecting the sequel and I'll have easy access to it. Hope they'll put the first one of Netflix as well.
I agree that Craig's accent wasn't quite the film's highlight though.
There a couple of different kinds of Netflix products actually. There's the stuff they've produced from start to finish and is really their own product; then there's the stuff they acquired later on in the production process, currently for example films that wouldn't be getting a theatrical release because of the pandemic and are thus kinda lost; and then stuff that they weren't involved in at all, but eventually got exclusive rights for in a country and thus brand as a Netflix product anyway (for example, Netflix Canada present Black Mirror as a Netflix series, but it's a UK series that's got nothing to do with Netflix).
Well, Netflix are on a roll at making bad decisions lately. So this makes Sense.
The accent was on purpose. Have you ever seen Poirot?
Yes, I have.
Well put man. Thought it was alright but confused how they’re gonna squeeze more films outta it.Sure, but that makes it a reference but not necessarily fun.
It didn't bother me though; as I said, great film.
The Ole performance thread.
Good stuff I liked Knives Out plus this will keep Rian Johnson busy and away from Star Wars movies.
$400m!?
no value in the market
no value in the market
different mystery to be solved each movie I imagine.
Didn't care for the first one but it has its fans. Fine. Though I found it an entirely superfluous project. Stylistically and tonally it brought nothing to a well worn genre. The best you could say about it was that it was like a Wes Anderson caper without the texture. None of which is a problem because it found its audience.
However you now have a sequel to a tired original, already bought and paid for by a predatory home streaming platform. The worry is that the continuation of this trend of ceaseless investment in easy, indulgent entertainment, will result in a further decline in opportunity and ultimately quality.
However you now have a sequel to a tired original, already bought and paid for by a predatory home streaming platform. The worry is that the continuation of this trend of ceaseless investment in easy, indulgent entertainment, will result in a further decline in opportunity and ultimately quality.
Never heard of it
450 million seems a lot until you realize they have over 200 million subscribers.
But that’s $225m per film. With no vfx. What could cost so much? Or is the production budget on top of this?
Yep. 450M only for the rights. Production probably won't be more than 100M for both movies. The first one had a 40M budget.
That's a lot of money to make sequels to a not very good film.
They told Johnson he has an unlimited budget and complete control over the films.
I was just curious what you meant by 'predatory platform' and 'further decline'. I've been trying to figure out how Netflix is different from major film studios in terms of its production support and how film opportunity and quality are declining, and I'm not getting there.
That's been around 95% due to the nature of the film market. Tl;dr no one sold Netflix the 'good stuff' and they (netflix) were relegated to picking around in the scrap barrel (and potential sellers had to risk the ire of their customers/peers etc).
In the past eighteen months or so, they (and other major streamers) have been quite successful in overpaying, as pointed out here-
-to try and starve out their competition.
It wasn’t even that good.
Thought it was brilliant but sequels tend to be shit, so not expecting much.
I agree with the poster that said most films made by netflix tend to be poor compared to their series.
But there is only about 30 world class genius directors out there. Every studio is trying to hire them.
But there is only about 30 world class genius directors out there. Every studio is trying to hire them.
I found “Knives Out” entertaining but it’s slightly depressing to hear they are making sequels. We don’t need a series of Poirot with a Southern American accent any more than we needed the remake of “Murder on the Orient Express” with Kenneth Branagh. For every “Lupin”, there’s an awful lot of crap on there.
If it means less money invested in superhero crap I am all for it.
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It still seems like a lot.
Netflix creates a lot of average to somewhat good new shows and axes them after a season or two. That is their model it seems. They bank on people watching a new show out of curiosity. This is just my observation. Stranger things is the only show on the top of my head that is currently running for more than a couple of seasons. I actually don't watch any of their new shows now unless they have a few seasons and a following.
Their movies other than marriage story and Irishman are fairly forgettable as well.
Yea it seems excessive. But netflix are loaded and taking out loans or bonds or something (i am not an expert).
200 millions subscribers at 13 euros a package is 2.6 billion in revenue a month. Now it is not as simple as that because their cheapest package is 9 or 10 euro i think.
What didn't you like about it?
Sure, but do Netflix thus drag down overall global quality in movies? Do they have that much influence? Or are they contributing to a global downward trend, to make it a bit more general? I thought that was @dumbo's point. I'm not necessarily disputing it; I don't follow film nearly enough to be able to make any kind of general comment on this. I'm just wondering if that point can be substantiated, or if it's hyperbole.