I imagine his time here is done so his form and return to the England NT is only beneficial in driving up his price. If his form continues then hopefully a-few more suitors become interested and we can get maximum value for him. We need to make as much as we possibly can from our outgoings this summer.
Lingard to join West Ham on loan
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But that's my opinion and obviously i'm not alone in that assessment. Yeah he was involved in 20 goals but the majority of those goals/assists (17 in fact) were in his period of good form up to December/January which tracks with my opinion on his form that season. Very good in the first half of the season decent in the 2nd. How is that unfair?
I said he played well when Ole first took over not sure how that's writing off what he did well. In 18/19 he did miss what 6-7 games through injury after the Liverpool match but still played around 8-9 games where he was awful (not a single goals or assist). Is that not enough games to form an opinion on his form towards the end of that season?
I'm not talking about his entire United career though only the last 4 years. And in my opinion i'm being more than fair in my appraisal of him. Have you considered the fact you might be overrating him?
He didn’t play 8 or 9 matches after the Liverpool match, he was involved in 5, playing ninety minutes only three times. After the match against Arsenal that season, we didn’t win a match he didn’t play in. I’m not sure where you’ve found 8 or 9 matches when he was awful. I’m overrating him if I don’t include made up matches though, yeah.
He's incredible. It looks like he's played his last game for United but he's England's best player when on form.
Devastating as it would be to lose Jesse, a home grown academy graduate, it would be fair to swap him for someone at a similar level and in a similar position.
So, a straight swap for Kane would be fair. United would lose out a bit in the deal but United has a history of looking after its own, even if it means foregoing some of their value in the transfer fee.
Devastating as it would be to lose Jesse, a home grown academy graduate, it would be fair to swap him for someone at a similar level and in a similar position.
So, a straight swap for Kane would be fair. United would lose out a bit in the deal but United has a history of looking after its own, even if it means foregoing some of their value in the transfer fee.
Did you include the cups? I do not personally remember if he played vs Barcelona. We did so little in attack those games.
He played against Barcelona, but that doesn’t exactly make 8-9 awful matches any less a stretch of the truth.
He did though which you seem to have acknowledged below as you forgot about cup matches.
Rating his performances is a subjective matter. And for me he was awful towards the end of that season. That's not stretching the truth mate, that's having an opinion.
There were paper rumours over the weekend that we are so impressed with his loan spell that we want to give him a contract extension.
I would like to think they've already cleared out his locker at Carrington.
If Ole allows Lingard back into the fold at United next season, then he loses my support.
If Ole allows Lingard back into the fold at United next season, then he loses my support.
Surely you can’t say he played 8-9 awful matches if in two of them he played less than half an hour.
Especially when as I said, after the Arsenal match we didn’t actually win a match he didn’t feature in.Surely you can’t say he played 8-9 awful matches if in two of them he played less than half an hour.
Well whats the minimum amount of minutes a player has to be on the pitch before we can have an opinion on whether or not they've had a bad performance mate?
By that logic a player couldn't play well in a 30 minutes either then i suppose?
So when Rashford came on against RB earlier in the season in the 63' minute and scored a hat-trick he hadn't been on the pitch long enough for us to form an opinion on whether or not he played well. Come on mate, have a think about this one.
When he played 16 minutes against Barcelona in the first leg, what can you remember about his performance?
Well whats the minimum amount of minutes a player has to be on the pitch before we can have an opinion on whether or not they've had a bad performance mate?
By that logic a player couldn't play well in a 30 minutes either then i suppose?
So when Rashford came on against RB earlier in the season in the 63' minute and scored a hat-trick he hadn't been on the pitch long enough for us to form an opinion on whether or not he played well. Come on mate, have a think about this one.
Very tempting... Kane pales in comparison to him when on form and we also need to consider just how young Lingard is as well, what is he now...? 14?
Run around a lot and pressed well. Good movement, but little end product.
We are a kind club so we takes Kane and 100 million and you get Lingard? We can add in Phil Jones as well for an extra 50 million too. Or you know what say 45 since we are such a kind club.
Scored more cup winning goals in the last decade than Tottenham.
similar to when we wanted Sanchez back. Under this regime we don’t throw players under the bus and decimate their transfer value (or in the case of Sanchez, just being able to get rid of him).
Sounds like nonsense, and is just journos throwing around wild speculation. I fully expect he'll be off this summer and hopefully we get a decent fee for him. His loan to West Ham has suited all parties.
I agree with this. They're on roughly the same level in terms of quality but Kane might suit our playing style slightly better than Jesse would. Whereas Jesse might be more of an asset for Spurs. Win-win, really, for both clubs.
Agreed.
I can remember that he didn't do much or affect the match positively in our favour. Think he got booked and that was about it, probably got a 3-4 match rating on here if you feel like checking.
What do you remember?
First I couldn't say he didn't play well at the end of that season because he was injured and hardly featured, then he did feature but didn't play enough games, then he did play enough games but he didn't play enough minutes in one of the games. What next?
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You said he was awful in them, it’s up to you to provide evidence for that, not me. You can say whatever you want, we’re just having a discussion there’s no need to be like that mate, it’s all opinion at the end of the day.I can remember that he didn't do much or affect the match positively in our favour. Think he got booked and that was about it, probably got a 3-4 match rating on here if you feel like checking.
What do you remember?
First I couldn't say he didn't play well at the end of that season because he was injured and hardly featured, then he did feature but didn't play enough games, then he did play enough games but he didn't play enough minutes in one of the games. What next?
Apologies mate I didn't mean to come across as a dick. That wasn't my intention I've considered this a good light hearted disagreement. We just don't agree on Lingard's form no problem with that.
You think England is not one of the favorites?
I only rate Belgium really ahead with an easy group. France maybe, but they got group of death with Portugal and Germany so it will be harder for those 3 teams to go all the way.
Although a winner from that group is likely. Not sure about Germany, but they got a brilliant midfield. Just strange they have no Mueller anymore.
No worries, I was probably just as bad. Now if you can just agree that i'm right and you're wrong there'll be no more problems.
NeverNo worries, I was probably just as bad. Now if you can just agree that i'm right and you're wrong there'll be no more problems.
What is next I guess. When Jones goes to another club and perform at world class level will people go back and talk about his time under Moyes and LVG?Never
I guess what everyone will agree though is that he is almost always injured and thus a problem.
Jones go to another club is it April fools already?
What a goal, Jesse, lad.
Well in.
Well in.
I can't with this guy. Leaves an goes into God mode.
Quite simply shouldn't be sold.
Wow! Bring him back- who needs Sancho
I'm going to buy me some Lingz merch
Nice
Price keeps going up.
Would be fantastic if he gets West Ham to finish top 4 ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea, and we sell him for 25m
Would be fantastic if he gets West Ham to finish top 4 ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea, and we sell him for 25m
What a goal
Straight swop with Grealish
He’s now operating at the level where if he had never played for us, we’d be clamouring for United to snap him up for £50m.
Great player, delighted that he’s finally showing the quality many of us United fans knew he had.
Great player, delighted that he’s finally showing the quality many of us United fans knew he had.