I’m just not with the propaganda or bull. I talk as I see it. I always give our managers a chance but when I see the writing on the wall I’ll express how I see it. Did the same with Moyes, LVG and Jose. I’m not interested in being right or saying I told you so. I just want us to be the best club we can be.
Catastrophic display ????
Again with the pivot to a totally different point. How about you actually read what I wrote and engage with the specific things I took the time to write there?
It definitely didn't contain it, there was lots in here as well. The only difference is now the main Ole thread is locked during matches so there's not 15 new pages if we are down at half-time.
I know about Grenada though. Beautiful country. If you’ve never been make sure you go visit.
But isn't the debate over by now? You see the manager as the biggest problem, others see the owners/squad etc. as the biggest problem. None of you are going to come to an agreement. Also, if you posted a little positivity (like celebrating the goal/win) people would be more likely to engage with you instead of just labeling your posts as agenda, would lead to better debates too.
"Overachieving" really is a stretch. Our squad is pretty good imo, the best we had post Fergie I dare say. Imbalanced though. Pretty young, too, which somewhat excuses our inconsistency but also lets us hope for more to come from the likes of Rashford, Greenwood, AWB etc.
Yeah that is understandable. And to be fair it is evident in many team's play. Fact that we are actually winning games and that too deservingly is a good sign.
Couldn't have said it any better. The brand of football we play is awful and today's game was no different against such an easy side. The players we had on the pitch today are capable of playing so much better, the quality in our squad compared to Granada is so much better, yet we seem to be approaching all games in the same way with this uninspiring football. Yes great result but fans around the world used to sit down and watch us play in Europe once whether they supported us or not, who would do that now.
Granada spent the game kicking lumps out of us, and when that didn't work they were rolling around on the floor.
Its already been accepted at this point.
I know that, but why couldn't we just attack them wave after wave for the first 20 or so minutes? Pin them back we have so much more quality in our squad than them, they should be scared going into this match they are playing against Manchester United, wouldn't you like that? To play like that against a weaker team? Why do I have to be called negative for wanting us to play like that and not like what I am seeing on the pitch.
Yeah. Why not going with no defenders and no goalkeeper aswell? Just put wave after wafe without even noticing that there are players on the other side.
All of that is irrelevant when the referee is allowing them to foul with impunity, it makes attacking them in waves difficult.
Do you honestly not remember 4-0 FC? Those were the days
I said the result is good,of course it is, its fantastic, I wouldn't expect a better result no 2-0 is more than enough. I do expect us to play better football, it's not just the score is it? What do you think made us the most famous football club on the planet? It was the football we played.
Tonight was a good result. I think Its just this forum. Football is an infinite game but I think lots want to use our manager and period between 1986 and 2013 as a yardstick forever. Ive come to believe some people here live in an alternate reality where a football team should win 6-0 every week and to not do so is just terrible. I feel others only ‘support’ Man Utd because once upon a time we won everything and are actually kind of just neutral fans who probably should move on to following Bayern Munich or PSG. And i think others have forgotten that sticking 7 and 8 past Roma and Arsenal wasnt every single week, nor were the trophies every single season. Football has moved on and so do our fans need to. Its not a two horse race league anymore and TV money means we can’t financially outmuscle the rest of the league on our big global revenues and sign any player we want from any other team for a price okay for us. Most fans I meet in person actually think we are on a good path at the moment. Theres just a small minority on here who clamour for a ‘big name manager’ to come in and do i dont really know what. Its like they dont remember a couple of years back when they got that with LVG or JM
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Agree those were the days, now it's all Gloom FCDo you honestly not remember 4-0 FC? Those were the days
wish I could “like” this post.
I'm fully hoping to smash them off the park. Score a couple of goals then kick the shit out of them.
Let's see, I hope so too.
Are you really comparing our football back when we won freaking CL and league titles to us now who get crushed out of groups and miles away from challenging for the league ? Give me league titles and CL with any football played and I'll be content. Both aren't comparable and for God sake, these Fergie's comparisons need to stop until at least we put a title challenge.
that 2008 champions league win was shocking. Scraped past lyon, scraped past barca and probably should have lost the final. We went out at group stage at least twice i remember. We regularly lost to bogey teams like bolton and blackburn. Remember us getting spanked 3-1 at home to Fulham with Forlan up front trying to break the net rather than score. Remember when we lost loads of games early in the season and the teams spelt BLANC who we had just signed.
A more stacked squad? Ole chose to dismantle it and had to get rid of certain "characters". We had the likes of Fellaini and Young etc playing, who most wanted rid of. You can't claim we had a better squad under Jose and think Ole has done a good job with the rebuild. We've spent a tonne of money in the last 4 years, plus with Rashford being older, McTominay and Greenwood coming through, the squad is miles better now.
Another newbie another poor post.
Well done, you completely missed the point of his post, guess you would though being an absolute staunch OleOuter.
Aye, shocking. Playing seven Cl knockout ties against the likes of Roma, Lyon, Chelsea and Barcelona and conceding a measly two goals. Yeah really shocking mate.
Joses squad also had a good Matic, Mata and Smalling. Other than that I'd say the squads are similar including the imbalances.
Amen. Couldn't of put it better.
it was. fecking defensive dross. Relied on individual brilliance, counter attacked, no patterns of play. Shit.
The point of his post is dumb. Comparing the kind of football played when we were winning leagues and CL to football played when we're miles away from even challenging for them is a dumb comparison beyond explanation.
Still missing the point I see..
Yeah keep it up. Pissed the group, got through Roma and Lyon without breaking sweat. Shut out Barca over two legs. Yeah shocking.
