Go and ask fans of those clubs what they think about United
European Super League
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Seems all of the big sports papers are against it as well (L'Equipe, Gazzetta dello Sport, etc). Hopefully they'll just completely ignore this bullshit competition, that could have major impact on its finances.
Can this even be walked back at this stage? Even if this doesn't happen, will everyone just forget this ever happened?
So you’ll be taking the SL coin then? You could refuse and take the moral high ground?
And resorting to banning because you disagree with my stance on the SL being a good thing for Manchester United is hilarious.
If you’re annoyed by me offering an alternate perspective on the SL then it’s on you.
Sadly yes this will be what happens, the PL, UEFA, FIFA etc. will just eat shit and like it.
This Super league is the top clubs just making it public that they have all the power.
Jesus christ.
Fifa runs the world cup, OF COURSE they can say who is eligible for it and who is not.
Every FA in the world is a FIFA affiliate, that is how they take part in international competition.
Does anyone know what the time frames of this will be?
The ESL said the season will start as soon "as practicable". I think the English teams are playing a straight bat at the moment and assuming (or pretending) that they will still be involved in domestic league football. It is inevitable they will be threatened with expulsion although the Super League teams have already considered that no doubt. The fact that all the riches clubs in Europe bar PSG and Munich have signed up makes them think the domestic leagues cannot afford to throw them out.....we will see.
Are there no contracts with the TV broadcaster that have to be honoured e.g. Sky? BT? If clubs are thrown out of the Premiership then would Sky have a legal claim to claw back some of the money they have paid out?
The ESL said the season will start as soon "as practicable". I think the English teams are playing a straight bat at the moment and assuming (or pretending) that they will still be involved in domestic league football. It is inevitable they will be threatened with expulsion although the Super League teams have already considered that no doubt. The fact that all the riches clubs in Europe bar PSG and Munich have signed up makes them think the domestic leagues cannot afford to throw them out.....we will see.
Are there no contracts with the TV broadcaster that have to be honoured e.g. Sky? BT? If clubs are thrown out of the Premiership then would Sky have a legal claim to claw back some of the money they have paid out?
While there is no doubt performing well in ESL will give better sponsor, issue being talked about is competition money. CL rewards team who go further and thus payment is mostly based on merit. Sponsor stuff is true even for CL. Not sure why you cant see the fault in the ESL way of money distribution
No the damage has been done. The other clubs now know they don't as far as the Big 6 are concerned.
That's part of the fecking fun! Loads of my friends support different teams, we shit on each other. I don't take it personally ffs.
Of course it can. Things need to happen though such as managers and players walking, Government intervention etc. All looking unlikely for me.
UEFA couldn't uphold City's UCL ban. They'll do nothing against the big 6.
Isn't that a problem in itself?
The idea is bang out of order, hence the almost universal condemnation. Football is not their invention, nor are these clubs, these cnuts are parasites and do not deserve your empathy.
There are dozens of pundits at the moment trying to boost their profile by replicating the Gary Neville clip and getting a viral video on the back of this. Each one is more outraged than the last.
Politicians need to get in now. Smash those ESL clubs and show them that if they want dictatorship, it can happen overnight.
Liverpool and Arsenal both tweeted about this. Nailed their colours to the mast. Nothing from United yet. Can we read anything into this?
I never said there wasn’t a fault with the money being distributed in the SL but people keep suggesting there’s zero reason to buy players when we can finish 15th and pick up £350m. I’m saying there’s a LOT of motivation to invest and finish 1st
Pussies ?
That 30m is the prize fund.
But again, why would sponsors make up the 1.15 billion shortfall in your figures? How does that represent value for them over paying 1.15 billion less on a different elite team that's in the competition forever anyway and has a guaranteed number of games against the other elite clubs?
Once you devalue winning (as the SL does by not only awarding less for winning but removing the consequences of losing) then you devalue what sponsors gain from backing the team that wins. The value of the SL lies in being involved, not in winning it.
So when I do it it’s disgusting and I’m everything that wrong with football? Got it...
https://thesuperleague.com/
Unless this is fake that suggests it will only replace the Champions League. And if that's true I'm all for it. UEFA is corrupt to the core and make so much money off the back of the clubs. It's about time there was a shake up really. Although I still think there should be an independent body, rather than club owners managing the league.
Unless this is fake that suggests it will only replace the Champions League. And if that's true I'm all for it. UEFA is corrupt to the core and make so much money off the back of the clubs. It's about time there was a shake up really. Although I still think there should be an independent body, rather than club owners managing the league.
If this truly is going to be a global league that’s watched all around the world there will be untapped markets in America and China that will result in huge sponsorships.
United’s annual revenue right now is still less than Tesco makes in one quarter. There’s a tonne of room for growth opportunity
Yes of course its a massive problem for football, but we've known for a long time that the top clubs were pulling UEFA's strings.
With the route football has been going the last 30 years a breakaway like this was inevitable. (accelerated by Oil states buying clubs).
The last PL rights deal is the first time it went down, now with the financial hit of Covid. These clubs have decided to pull the trigger to secure their place at the top of football.
I don't like it but everyone involved with football is to blame. If English clubs were't owned by foreign billionaires then i doubt this happens. But sadly the Governemnt/PL/FA/UEFA didn't give a feck who was buying english clubs over the last 20 years.
Unfortunately this small group of clubs absolutely dwarf Uefa and Fifa in terms of infrastructure and influence.
Any talk of real sanctions is just fanciful.
You’re very late to the party my friend. This was always the case until the FA told us we’d be kicked out of domestic competitions if we joined the SL
Not for me, Gary.
If you want to separate yourself from them because you think you're inherently better and more worthy than them, yes..? There's a big difference between football tribalism and 'banter' and wanting to start your own, exclusive 'super' league ffs. It's funded by JP Morgan mate, can you seriously not see that money is the only driving force behind this?
I know yeah. I can’t see that I he premiere league has a future without the big 6.
Spain and Italy the same.
That's what it has always been, it's not a replacement for the PL
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That would be fine if we are not all kicked out of the PL. Then it isn't.
Its horrible. I have spent 25years following United and loving it.
The landscape of the game has totally changed. Awful.
Fair play to Bayern - I hear they were asked but said no.
But still if it goes ahead what becomes of the European Cup?
All of these clubs have nailed their colours to the mast. A tweet means very little. It's hard not to imagine the Glazer's fingerprints all over this.
I think it just reads that our social media team are terrified of any backlash. I think it is quite cowardly to be honest.
No mate. The Super League are putting out the message that the SL will replace the CL and that the domestic league will not be affected but it is not their decision as to whether they get to play in the domestic leagues.
feck UEFA, but feck this even more. The fact that it's a closed competition and the insane money you and the others will get makes the EPL even more uncompetitive than ever makes UEFAs massive indiscretions look like small fry.
I sincerely hope the FA and FIFA permanently kick you all out of every competition they can.
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Yeah, before realising this was actually something that could realistically happen yesterday, that's the feeling I had, just tonnes of virtue signalling and faux moral outrage. But now it seems it's actually happening, and in terms of sporting integrity, it's just ludicrous.
Do you really think that? Ole is a fan of this club in the same way as Neville and Keane are, who have clearly shared their feelings on the matter. I'm sure he will feel exactly the same as them.
Add to that, that there's a always a chance our season will now be derailed. We could be kicked our of the Europa League and who knows what could happen in the league - it adds a whole sense of worthlessness to the season just past.
Despite not winning anything up to this point, Ole is making great progress with this team and the season so far has been a huge achievement for him (may or may not be good enough but it's his best season as a manager). This could all be stripped away from him and the players without a moments notice just so that we can go play in some fantasy league for a bit of extra cash.
Ensuring the same 12 clubs are all that matter isn't shaking anything up. They're trying to kill the rest of the competition.