No not if it means they are part of the english football division, I'm sorry but it's this blind loyalty from a majority of football fans that is allowing scummy owners like the glazers to get away with treating great clubs as nothing but a soulless cash grab for them.
If the super league happens, will you still support Man United? Now with added poll
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If they only play in the Super League, no. But i would need some time. It is not that the Super League would exist, it is the way they handled it and implemented it. At these Covid times behind the back during a season. Absolute snakes
I still think they bluffing just for Uefa to come a year later and offer the big clubs a bigger share of the prize money.
I think it kinda looks like just a scheme on how to recover some lost covid money on Uefa's back (which to me, doesn't sound that bad when speaking about uefa only).
It was blatant but this hits home more cause its in our backyard now. Manchester uniteds reputation and standing is being dragged through the mud by fecking glazers and woodward. Its a fecking tragedy.
I would support United if they were playing in the Isthmian League Division 7. Always have supported them since I was a kid, always will do until my last breath.
Hopefully the eternal moaners will go off and support someone else.
Hopefully the eternal moaners will go off and support someone else.
It depends on what agreements can be made to play alongside the real sporting competitions.
If we are just playing in the ESL alone it gets boring very quickly. We'd turn into something like the Harlem Globetrotters. The same 38 exhibition matches every fecking year.
If we are just playing in the ESL alone it gets boring very quickly. We'd turn into something like the Harlem Globetrotters. The same 38 exhibition matches every fecking year.
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100% no I will walk away. I even joined just to state this. I am a Manchester United fan since I was little. I will walk away without a shadow of a doubt if this goes ahead.
Nice of you to show solidarity with football as a whole.
FIFA and UEFA are terrible, but at least they still can listen and understand football.
This ESL thing has zero sense of football, they really want to change "football" to become "soccer"
This is how I feel. This would be the final nail in the coffin for me as the Glazers piss all over the history of this once great club. I know it won’t make any difference but the club as a supporter feedback line and we should all exercise our voice in opposition to this +44 161 850 3969
Glazers out!
First, I don't think it will happen. Timing wise, it was a protest and gambit against the new changes to the CL that have been proposed (and voted in today), and they were threatening to burn it all down in protest. The plan was for it to be to replace CL for them but in addition to their national league games, but when it means being banned from national leagues, then it becomes financially terrible, not advantageous. So from a self-interest perspective, it doesn't work--especially when fans reject it too. But I also think that governments will stop it, and of course there will be a legal battle with the UEFA and FIFA.
But if it did happen, football's dead and United would be dead for me. Feel like throwing out my shirts and burning them. I hope the fans picket outside the ground, the players go on strike and the coaches resign (did Jose walk?). They've declared war, and the football needs to fight back until these parasites are driven out of football.
But if it did happen, football's dead and United would be dead for me. Feel like throwing out my shirts and burning them. I hope the fans picket outside the ground, the players go on strike and the coaches resign (did Jose walk?). They've declared war, and the football needs to fight back until these parasites are driven out of football.
Knowing that the Glazers are a big part of this, the bastards, means I will probably jack it in.
I'm not watching trophy celebrations with the owners of the European Super League lifting the trophy in the air. No chance
I'm not watching trophy celebrations with the owners of the European Super League lifting the trophy in the air. No chance
We were told they wouldn't spend money on signings after their first few seasons in charge at Utd. That didn't prove to be the case.
Yes they are parasites. But yeah the idea is a closed shop for 15 teams, with 5 extra teams being included each season based on merit. 2 leagues of 10 teams.
I'm against the idea also, but a situation where Utd are guaranteed to play Madrid, PSG, Juventus twice a year doesn't sound too boring. A lot of leagues in Europe have already become stagnant due to fact the same team wins every year.
The idea is disastrous for clubs like Everton and Leicester. Gary Neville has vested interests in turning Salford into a champions league club one day, so he will be severely against the idea.
But the idea that European football is already perfect as it is is not accurate, as we're seeing teams like PSG pay 3 times the salary anyone else can to land a player like Mbappe or Neymar, which means that guys like Pogba, Ozil or Alexis suddenly start demanding 600,000 a week, when a couple of years before they were happy to receive much less. So the whole transfer market has been screwed for a while. The football pyramid has been damaged for a while already due to the likes of PSG and City finding sneaky ways to get around FFP.
Personally, if they don't row back on this... I am out. I won't be renewing my season ticket this summer and it's the last penny of mine they see. Feck the lot of 'em.
If fans can't make a stand now for the benefit of football, they never will. It's been going in a shitty direction for too long.
If fans can't make a stand now for the benefit of football, they never will. It's been going in a shitty direction for too long.
This.So most people have a problem with the ESL but not with the corrupt FIFA and UEFA
Next up is drafts, trades, playoffs, all star games etc etc...
Went through the same load of nonsense when the First Division became the Premier League thirty years ago. Everything improved.
If this runs parallel to current competitions and more high quality games between top clubs what's not to like.
Alternatively we could go back to the test matches of the 19th century and play the odd FA Cup game. Someone might dare to form a league format in 1888.
I will always support Manchester United, but if they do this it's no longer Manchester United. I will be right here waiting when this thing ultimately falls apart, but until then I won't spend a dime to support the club financially.
No I will not support a team that plays in a meaningless competition and is only motivated by profit margins. Bayern it is.
That’s a different issue.So most people have a problem with the ESL but not with the corrupt FIFA and UEFA
you have no issue with playing the same clubs every season?
To add to that no relegation or promotion. What is the fecking point?
No, if they get booted out of English competition to go solely chasing the money I’m done.
I’m guessing that’s what they want, all this talk of “legacy” fans. They are after the new fans, fresh money.
woody and the club have already pulled out of everything official such as the ECA.
the timing is so sneaky
im pissed at this
I’m guessing that’s what they want, all this talk of “legacy” fans. They are after the new fans, fresh money.
woody and the club have already pulled out of everything official such as the ECA.
the timing is so sneaky
im pissed at this
My problem is that 15 teams are guaranteed a seat. It's football dictatorship.So most people have a problem with the ESL but not with the corrupt FIFA and UEFA
If these 15 Judas clubs banded together to take a stand against the greed and corruption of UEFA, I'm all for it. But their answer is to fight greed with more greed.
No chance, it will be supporting the glazers and their greed. They can feck right off!
Hope the government get involved and kick these leeches out and stop these greedy cnuts from buying our football clubs.
Hope the government get involved and kick these leeches out and stop these greedy cnuts from buying our football clubs.
You know what the worst thing is? The fact that these people knew from a while back that they'd be bastards and branch out, but still let us talk about 'breaking into the top 4 will be a big achievement' this that.
We've been made to look like the biggest twats and clowns with no respect given at all. I'm talking about us as a collective unit. There's no need for these big businesses and oil money. If they take away all their funding then football still continues. You think players like Shaw, Greenwood, Harry maguire, and whoever else started training from as young as 3 or 4 because they wanted to rake it in the bank? Nope.
The tradition continues, footballers will still be made, fans will always support. We don't need these Yankee candle owners at all and we don't need sky sports.
We've been made to look like the biggest twats and clowns with no respect given at all. I'm talking about us as a collective unit. There's no need for these big businesses and oil money. If they take away all their funding then football still continues. You think players like Shaw, Greenwood, Harry maguire, and whoever else started training from as young as 3 or 4 because they wanted to rake it in the bank? Nope.
The tradition continues, footballers will still be made, fans will always support. We don't need these Yankee candle owners at all and we don't need sky sports.
It’s an insult quite frankly. Those legacy fans are the ones who been with the club through thick and thin and now they’re after some fecking wetwipes whom only want new players or actually support players more than the club. Total shambles. Never been so outraged in regards to football as I am now.No, if they get booted out of English competition to go solely chasing the money I’m done.
I’m guessing that’s what they want, all this talk of “legacy” fans. They are after the new fans, fresh money.
woody and the club have already pulled out of everything official such as the ECA.
the timing is so sneaky
im pissed at this
If United leave and join this ESL then I’m done with them and the teams that choose to join. I enjoy English football and I’d probably then support Dagenham and Redbridge.
So this thread seems to have developed into another anti-Glazer thread whereas there will be 20 clubs involved including all the major European teams, probably including Bayern, PSG and others.
What is your opinion of all these other top European clubs, will you stop following football altogether or will you support some other random club that isn't involved in this ESL like Norwich or Southampton or Burnley and at what point will you start moaning about them?
Also considering that these clubs with their new found "supporters" will still be competing against the club you say are supporting now.
What is your opinion of all these other top European clubs, will you stop following football altogether or will you support some other random club that isn't involved in this ESL like Norwich or Southampton or Burnley and at what point will you start moaning about them?
Also considering that these clubs with their new found "supporters" will still be competing against the club you say are supporting now.
you only have to see some of the top red style comments here to see that there is plenty of £££ coming the way of the superleague. the glazers and Utd by extension have taken a big dump on the fans, and yet theres still some returning for seconds.
The issue people have is that it will gravely disrupt the league and more importantly, the meaning of the league in relation to the european contest.So most people have a problem with the ESL but not with the corrupt FIFA and UEFA
Plus there is the whole subject of generations of traditions that are being offered less than no respect on the way out.
Same here mate. For our club to be involved with this sneaky money grab.. I’m disgusted
I would become a neutral fan. I would no longer have a connection to the club.
Bayern, Leipzig and Dortmund have come out and given their full support to UEFA. And PSG.
None of them will participate.
Make no mistake though, every single club that signs up are just as bad as the others.
ALL the major European teams like Spurs? and not including the German and Dutch sides? really? give your head a wobble.
I’m done if this goes through. It will just show that the club is now just a vehicle for making money to better the owners and little else.
One thing can be worse than another
It's an interesting thought to think at what point could my emotional bond with Utd be in question.
ESL?
Moving cities?
Changing the name?
It's just horrible, I'm devastated this morning.
ESL?
Moving cities?
Changing the name?
It's just horrible, I'm devastated this morning.
You both seriously think that if this goes ahead the top German, French and Dutch sides will not take part, give your head a wobble.
I used to be a devoted Baltimore Orioles fan. Spent loads of money on games and merchandise in my younger years. When the players went on strike, I quit being a fan of the sport. It was a flip of the switch. Never spent another dime on the sport or watched the team I grew up supporting ever again. I know how you all must feel right now. I did not find football or Manchester United until the 2000’s but I feel more love for United and the sport than I ever did for baseball or the Orioles. I can’t say I’ll stop watching but damn, this hurts. As a United fan I’ve experienced the highs under Sir Alex and the lows since he retired. Things are finally starting to turn around and I truly felt the club was building something special again with Ole and the recent announcement of a DOF. This decision to break away is wrong. All of it. We’re basically saying the rest of the teams in the league are shit and don’t deserve to be on the same pitch as the 12. No consequences for doing poorly. Just restart next season and try again. Just like American Sports.
That's interesting as the 15 elite clubs planned holds a place for 2 German and 1 French club.
I wonder if the thinking is that those clubs will join later if the challenges to the Super League fail?