Yeah too right. I completely agree with this post.
wasn't that how things were prior to the expansion of the CL? the expansion of the CL gets routinely derided, or now praised, according to the argument. the likes of Arsenal used to get derided for only competing for a top 4 spot, yet you're saying now that's now what makes things interesting. we can't have things both ways.
Or Villa had a seat on the table.
2 massive truth bombs. Nothing more needs to be said.
You could say the same about All-Star games, which is the most boring thing I can imagine. What makes it not boring is caring about the outcome.
And why wouldn't it? It just echoes what 99% of posters here seem to feel, as well as pretty much everyone else who has said anything and doesn't own any of the clubs, so why would he be any different?
Personally, I would absolutely love an all-star game. I'll always be gutted we never saw Ronaldo and Messi play together, football has missed an opportunity there. The Lions tour in rugby is basically all-star and it's phenomenal. Fans would grow to care I guarantee that. I maintain, the proposal is corrupt, anti-competitive and nuclear but certainly wouldn't be boring.
Good on him. More players should publicly take a stand (well, if they had an ounce of integrity in them)
It was naive on my part to imagine the Glazer scum as the main scum. They are all scum. There won't be a better opportunity to wrestle back control through European and government regulation to clear these scum out of the game. Like she says, FIFA and UEFA have opened the door to this, as have these different governments, and corruption is there at all levels. That doesn't mean you cannot change course though.
The thing about the NFL is there is a minimum Cap as well so you can draft your way to a decent team, then Brady becomes available for 25 million a year and you say why not, in football that’s 52 million for messi on a free, or 150 million at least for Kane not including wages. There is no minimum spend per season.
Well said. This is a defining moment - if these clubs can do this, then it is no longer a question of money having too much influence in football, it's a question of nothing else mattering.
You make some very valid points. I think most of us are just a bit shell shocked now that it's come to this.
Yep. As I said .... "Yet you participate in society, how curious? I am intelligent"
The new UEFA reform ideas literally say they'll invite big teams that don't qualify. It's barely any different apart from they pocket more money than UEFA would.How can the clubs run the show themselves?
It is a massive conflict of interest most visible in that guaranteed spot.
The next step is for a few founding members to decide they should have 15 players on the pitch rather than 11.
These founding members got where they are thanks to their FAs and UEFA. Now they prevent others from developing.
Unless there is a plan for every new team in Superleague to take up equity on the same footing as the founding members ?
I get it, I get the outcry. But it’s just been wank for so so long I can’t get outraged anymore.
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Why would they be guaranteed more money than they currently get when they are currently subsidized by the top clubs who have decided to stop sharing? You don't actually think that there is an international demand for Burnley vs Sheffield United?
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Why on earth would any Man Utd fan care about playing AC Milan twice a year, or Atletico Madrid twice a year etc.? It is complete nonsense and is only being done to make money. It's not exciting just because you say so, football and sport is exciting because there is an element of risk and competition inherent in every game. That doesn't exist in this mess of a system, ergo it is boring.
Agreed. Unfortunately, this is the way of the world and has been since the 80s. The PL is a child of Thatcher. The ESL is just a continuation of that.
They're openly targeting the new generation of fans through this proposal, so they are responsible for the trend as they're attempting to commercialise football even further to gain their interest.
Terrible stuff isn't it.
Do you mean the fans watching it on tele or the fans having to travel around Europe to watch their team play in a league.
Come on. Genuinely? Don't be naive. It's nothing to do with us "legacy" fans.
because he would be in charge of a company that would directly financially gain by the proposal rather than in charge of a company that would lose money due to the proposal.
Bayern haven’t publicly rejected yet have they? Dortmund said as far as they know they are of the same mind as them.
You just like the idea, no point making stuff up is there. 80%
says who? You, because you like it, just own it, you want to watch just big teams each week. Looking around football twitter, forums of other teams, its mostly negative. Most will still watch it obviously, but the backlash is vast.How can you fix it later when 12 clubs have it enshrined they are protected from relegation? When those 12 clubs make the rule?
Great post
You're surprised that those of us who've been against every step of this are against this latest step too? I don't get it.
PSG worthy of feck all. They are just too deep in UEFA/FIFA arse to risk their Qatar world cup, nothing more.
What, a bunch of stars playing each other in a game where the outcome means nothing, and where everyone by common consent don't do things like tackles? Well, to each his own, I suppose.
