i bet without even looking, and i cant because the inevitability will make me physically sick, that this Singer c**t is involved in a few high profile philanthropic ventures, with some celebrities involved and spends time with the gliteratti on both sides of the pond.
European Super League
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
We should post that meme on every page of this thread.
Piss off, they aren't worthy of nothing. They are a very large part of this whole mess being created.
All the millions sifted through UEFA and FIFA to get the World Cup and to beat FFP and now the competition is leaving them.
They fully deserve what they get.
I mean it isn't going to make a massive difference to going to games, we would still play in the PL, and we would still play in europe. Which is exactly what we are doing currently.
It wouldn't be that much different to the current CL, except way more dead rubber games in the group stages and fixtures would feel less "unique" which would automatically make them feel less special
The knockout stages would almost be exactly the same... but again, fixtures would feel less special over time.
City fans genuinely lack awareness and intelligence.
Bet they (Qatar) are fuming at Messi and Ronaldo *potentially missing out the WC.
*they won't miss out, FIFA are too scared to exclude them.
Ha this the same guy who sent to sign for money bags PSG
Can't help thinking this is also an opportunity. But I'd actually say the 80s was just an escalation of their war against their own countrymen and women, whereas the elites have been at war with everyone they can reach since we pretty much stopped being hunters and gatherers (slight exaggeration).
With this and the German clubs, I think the mobsters and leeches are sweating a little bit.
They already do, why do we need to be in a special club for this?
What are you guys on about? Stop this whataboutism. Yes football is corrupt but this is another level all together this is not the same. We should be fighting against this not making excuses because other things are corrupt.
It is pure nonsense, that tweet.
There is a shitload of money coming from advertising, shirt deals and so on. As Glazers recently saw, if you don't do well in pitch, it gets harder to get big deals.
i did look and it appears he if of course a 'philanthropist' and of course the largest private donor to the republicans, and also a strong supporter of Israel and Judaism, having donated millions to american synagogues etc. Like does not one single rabbi not turn around and say fook you and your dirty usury stained money? sorry to derail the thread but jeez..
More home league games will have less meaning if you're out of the title race. Also there would be more home games which of course means more money spent... not to mention the fact that these ESL games may cost more then regular PL games.
@crossy1686 look at all these supporters groups flapping because of sky news, they should just chill and find some loopholes for players right
Half my family are match going blues. They have every right to feel outraged about this as we do.
This is about generations of supporters being forgotten about in seconds.
The only reason you say that is due to the way it's been handled currently by the footballing officials. You could easily make it more meaningful to do some all-star competitions (i.e prem vs la Liga etc). As I say the Lions tour in rugby is a prestigious and interesting contest, I've never understood why football couldn't think of similar things. Anyway, that's a different discussion but it does seem a bit close-minded to me to just completely shut down talk of ways to create interesting new contests. (not talking about the ESL here for anyone wanting to lump in).
There are literally billions of football fans. A few football forums and some people on Twitter make up how much of that? It's not a proper representation.You just like the idea, no point making stuff up is there. 80%
Of course, 80% is an arbitrary number but the majority of football fans will watch and pay for this. Making it a success to those involved which is why they've done it.
We've seen a handful of professional footballers come out against it. Out of how many? Hundreds of thousands or millions of them...
True. Case of right message wrong messengerHa this the same guy who sent to sign for money bags PSG
I think many have lost sight that part of the reason the games against the likes of Barca, Real, Juve, Bayern’s and that are so special is because they are rare. Playing one of the big names every week is going to lose its luster pretty quickly and let’s be honest if it does generate 300 mil for each club, the Glazers will pocket that whilst the others will probably put a lot more in to the club with their cash flow now equalling and surpassing what the prem makes your likes of the Real’s will have no bother buying your Haalands, Mbappes and that where we’ll probably be shopping in the bargain basement trying to compete.
Look at it from an outside perspective. These things are not irrelevant in cause and effect.
PSG and UEFAs lacklustre way of dealing with them are very much at the heart of why this Super League has come about.
Of course they should condemn this league but the poster I quoted was somehow equating this with FFP rules which is extremely stupid.
THIS. On the other side of the WC they'll be all over this.
No, I don't, that's why I don't think they'd be part of a breakaway league, but Rangers vs Newcastle? Probably? There's a balance between revenue and entertainment. No one wants to watch the same 6 teams play each other 30 times, even the guys running this know that.
Second this. The hypocrisy all around is just terrible.
I seriously envy the fans of the clubs that have rejected the Super League.
No i don't think they are doing it for us fans we all know they are doing it to grow and secure their income streams going forward. But I don't think it shows contempt to us fans at all. Fans of these clubs will get better games and likely more big-name signings, which is something fans want.
Unfortunately the owners of these clubs do not see much profit in the actual supporters of their clubs. There's plenty more where they came from if they just go play their games abroad. The existing support and traditions are holding them back from more money.
It’s cold but it’s true, those fans built our game and built those clubs, but in space-year 2021 they’re not necessary. The game is global and can reach anywhere, it’s grown in to a behemoth. It’s a disgusting slap in the face but the world is a different place now. Which is why this future of the game is inevitable. There should have been strict regulations of ownership of football clubs, nobody wanted the Glazers and they let it happen. It’s absolutely tragic.
Most will end up part of it eventually, they just don't want to look like the biggest bastards of all. Wouldn't trust any of them.
Well, yeah, they should. I don't think this is over yet, there's more to come and in the end it will all be fine. Football isn't going to go away and it isn't going to be ruined, it's sensationalism at its finest.
The backlash is only just beginning, you might want to remember that these traitors to the game decided to release the news late at night on a Sunday evening. Most players and managers are going to think carefully about their responses before sharing. As for the fans, currently we have the massive majority coming out saying this is appalling and a betrayal of the game. You can keep claiming the majority will fall in line as much as you want, but you have absolutely nothing to back that up other than your own opinion.
Because frankly, you don't see it enough. The fact that Utd has only come up against Ronaldo about three times since he left is poor for the spectacle. Likewise, we have not met some of the elite talents in football enough. Finding a way to bring the elite talent in the game into a direct head to head competition is certainly interesting, even if the methods are not.
Sure that is fine but it doesn't mean you should talk more about them than the people trying to bring this to fruition. This is horrible on every level forget about blaming organisations if they were the ones that offered this we should be shouting at them but they are not.
Its not whataboutery, its trying to define what we are trying to save. CL qualification is already a closed shop in England, the super rich are already dominating each top league. The CL reform already includes clauses to include top clubs who dont qualify.
Personally, ive grown to hate the idea of European football and really think it should be scrapped so this development over a CL reform doesnt hit as hard. I cant see whats so soverign as City run away with their 4th title in 5 years. Every now and then a club will becone the best in Europe to wrestle a title away but that cycle is so short that itll barely register. As we are, if City doesnt end up with 8 titles every 10 years then itll be a miracle.
This 3.5 billion payout. Is that across all the teams or EACH? Also is it across a set period of time? The wording makes it hard to tell.
Man I'm so hurt by this. Like everyone else I was gutted when we didn't make the UCL and collapsed after Sir Alex left, but I always believed that one day we would be back. That we would do it properly. I'm not the biggest fan of Ole (as manager) but its been amazing to see us slowly climbing back up, seeing genuine progress with a team full of young stars. Now all of that just seems so pointless - no fight to get to the top. The idea of having to play play-off US style games in international venues genuinely makes me want to throw up.
edit: and I know UEFA's handling of FFP has been a joke and we need alternatives but this.. this just seems so off.
edit: and I know UEFA's handling of FFP has been a joke and we need alternatives but this.. this just seems so off.
I wonder if Celtic and Rangers would be all over this?
Wish someone threw a shoe at him.