If the super league happens, will you still support Man United? Now with added poll

Paul the Wolf · Apr 19, 2021

Mr Smith said:
I do get where you're coming from, but please reconsider. This breakaway is disastrous for football, and will suck any remaining values from the club. I understand wanting to continue to support United because of a long history doing so, and I understand this being tied in with family and even a way of life. But this isn't suffering through hard times. This is a greedy corporate investor profiting off the hard earned money YOU sink into the club, and using it to propel the club into a closed shop that is the antithesis of everything the club traditionally stands for.

There comes a point when the club you love stops being the club you love. What makes Manchester United, Manchester United? For me its the history the values, the idea of doing things the right way and giving youth a chance. If this goes through, the club you and I love will be a cash cow for parasites. We have to be prepared to walk away to save the club. Please reconsider.

I have made a few other points in other posts since then.
If you look at it from a different angle, if all the major European clubs become part of this league, which they will without doubt and we don't - this club wll gradually die and all the traditions and top players will become a thing of the past, much less money to develop players, ground improvements , signing top players, competing against top teams, TV money , sponsorships it will all be a thing of the past.

This is like an opening bid by the ESL, let's see how it progresses and what is eventually agreed.

Verminator · Apr 19, 2021

I'm done already. After being taken to my first game, before my 4th birthday.
48 years later, my club has humiliated and betrayed me. It doesn't depend on "if it happens". The damage has already been done.

If the club ever rid itself of the shithouse bastards that own it, and come crawling back, with tails between legs, I may return.
For now, I'll just have to find something else to obsess over.

Red Stone · Apr 19, 2021

Buster15 said:
You don't just start or stop supporting the club you love.
It is not like a tap. Once you fall in love with a club, that is for life. You have an emotional bond.

This isn't the club I fell in love with, though. If United go through with this they finally become just another soulless company selling out everything they stood for to make a quick buck. Ever since the Glazers took over it's been going in this direction. I thought we were on the way back to where we came from with the positive steps taken to restore our identity under Ole, but this just tears down all of that work and takes a giant dump all over the ruins for good measure.

I'm done with United and possibly football as a whole if the ESL becomes a thing. There's been too much shite going on in football at the moment to not strain the relationship I have with the game, from the Qatar World Cup to a new VAR shambles every fecking match week to this turd cherry on top of the giant pile of shite. At least football has been making such an effort to fall out of my favours for long enough that the final breaking point won't be anywhere near as painful as it would have been otherwise.

Mr Smith · Apr 19, 2021

Buster15 said:
You don't just start or stop supporting the club you love.
It is not like a tap. Once you fall in love with a club, that is for life. You have an emotional bond.

There's a point when the club you fell in love with isn't that club anymore. Without meaning, the badge is just a brand. The ESL flies in the face of everything the club stands for.

OleTheGreat · Apr 19, 2021

I highly doubt I'll even watch football if these clubs go against FIFA and UEFA and decide to play in the league of their own because that's just ridiculous and I thought Man United and our club was better than this. It definitely is the work of these stupid American owners who will stop at nothing to make a buck. Regardless of them staying in the PL or not, I'm not a fan of the Super League and I think every club that works hard domestically deserves a place in the Champions League and this has been good for the last 70 years. Stop changing football, you worthless Twats!

Dans · Apr 19, 2021

Utd heap said:
I do support the club nearest to where I live(d).

You're in the minority!

pass.pass.pass · Apr 19, 2021

Nope. Football will be dead to me. Perhaps I will pick a national team to support, but United has been my passion, and I doubt I will ever be as invested in any other team.

United are dead with this, make no mistake about it. It's the history, the people, and style that makes this club what it is. The people and the style have taken a hit after SAF retired, and now they are breaking from the past too. What's left to support?

mancan92 · Apr 19, 2021

Paul the Wolf said:
I'd wait until more details are clearer but if all the top European clubs were involved and we weren't, what does that make us. So far it seems there will be a core of 15 clubs + 5 clubs that can be promoted to it.
But whatever happens I'll still support United.

Brexit was a certain disaster from day one, let's see what happens here. I still remember the uproar when the idea of a Premier League was suggested.

This is different from the Premier league completely different in fact.

Pyro19 · Apr 19, 2021

Not a chance I support United and our pig fecking owners in a desperate attempt to americanize the game. Years and years of history and legacy destroyed just so we can see the same 12 teams play each other in meaningless games. I hope the "super" league crashes and burns.

Will probably follow the Bundesliga a lot closely.

stepic · Apr 19, 2021

I’ll still support them, of course.

Zen86 · Apr 19, 2021

Has anyone registered Redcafe United yet? We sign all the classic caf favourites from Sneijder to Vidal

Dancfc · Apr 19, 2021

It will be interesting to see how many people actually stick to the vows to stop supporting their club, I personally believe when it comes to it the love for the club will override any hatred of the system for the majority.

This time last year people in their thousands on forums and social media were swearing blind they would boycott football if it resumed during the pandemic, I'm yet to come across one who stuck to that promise when the time came to put in into practice.

Dirty Schwein · Apr 19, 2021

On a Saturday morning at 3am:
"Welcome to super soccer, that's right! It's Friday night's European super league nitro! Where the biggest clubs and the best players compete for glory. Sponsored by Rolex... the time... is now! Over to our play-callers Joe Rogan, Jim Ross and Snoop Doggy Dogg".

Sunday afternoon:
"You are watching Super Sunday featuring two mouth-watering top-of-the-table clashes. Burnley vs. Leicester followed by Southampton vs. Everton. And it's coming up next... LIVE!"

So depressing :lol:

Andycoleno9 · Apr 19, 2021

Is this serious question?

Paul_Scholes18 · Apr 19, 2021

I feel like there is no point supporting us this season no more. Top 4 means nothing and even if we would beat City to the title it would be meaningless in the long run with this super league.

Acquire Me · Apr 19, 2021

Sean_RedDevil said:
So most people have a problem with the ESL but not with the corrupt FIFA and UEFA

Makes no sense what so ever. Same shit different wrapping. At least we as a club earn more with ESL.

On topic: I will of course support United.

Fts 74 · Apr 19, 2021

Problem is how can we not?

I'm gutted like pretty much everyone else but utd is such a big part of our lives (in my case over 40 years)how can we just walk away from it.

It's easy saying now I won't watch this ridiculous "competition " but when it comes around I'm not sure I'll be able to ignore it.

It's a really sad day.

El Zoido · Apr 19, 2021

I’ll still support them, it depends on how it plays out. Football has been drifting away from the game I loved as a boy, it’s been a slow death but it doesn’t feel the same as it used to, even right now. Super League is just another nail in the coffin for me. I continue to watch every game, and intend to do so. But the more money is pumped in to the game, the less appealing it becomes.

keithsingleton · Apr 19, 2021

United till I die but I certainly won't be paying any subscriptions for super league games. I'll also stop going to matches and no merchandise either. They can all fuuck off, greedy tw@ts

Verminator · Apr 19, 2021

Dancfc said:
It will be interesting to see how many people actually stick to the vows to stop supporting their club, I personally believe when it comes to it the love for the club will override any hatred of the system for the majority.

This time last year people in their thousands on forums and social media were swearing blind they would boycott football if it resumed during the pandemic, I'm yet to come across one who stuck to that promise when the time came to put in into practice.

Yeah the grounds have been packed to the rafters. :houllier:

SwedishFish · Apr 19, 2021

Dirty Schwein said:
On a Saturday morning at 3am:
"Welcome to super soccer, that's right! It's Friday night's European super league nitro! Where the biggest clubs and the best players compete for glory. Sponsored by Rolex... the time... is now! Over to our play-callers Joe Rogan, Jim Ross and Snoop Doggy Dogg".

Sunday afternoon:
"You are watching Super Sunday featuring two mouth-watering top-of-the-table clashes. Burnley vs. Leicester followed by Southampton vs. Everton. And it's coming up next... LIVE!"

So depressing

Isn't that what Sky is like already?

Buster15 · Apr 19, 2021

diarm said:
I have an emotional bond with Manchester United Football Club.

An English league club, built for the workers of the area and that stood for what was right in the game for 140 years.

That club doesn't exist anymore. I have no interest in supporting Glazer FC, a cynical vehicle geared towards lining the pockets of Americans, even if they're playing with our old badge.

And that is entirely understandable.
But to me, Manchester United is Manchester United, whoever the owners happen to be and however unsavoury their motivations. My support is for the team

In exactly the same way, my home club happens to be Bristol Rovers.
They are crap, are going to be relegated to division 4 and are owned by a particularly useless Jordanian. But I still have the emotional bond having stood on the terraces hundreds of times when I was a kid.
Totally illogical, but that is football.

UnitedSofa · Apr 19, 2021

Dirty Schwein said:
On a Saturday morning at 3am:
"Welcome to super soccer, that's right! It's Friday night's European super league nitro! Where the biggest clubs and the best players compete for glory. Sponsored by Rolex... the time... is now! Over to our play-callers Joe Rogan, Jim Ross and Snoop Doggy Dogg".

Sunday afternoon:
"You are watching Super Sunday featuring two mouth-watering top-of-the-table clashes. Burnley vs. Leicester followed by Southampton vs. Everton. And it's coming up next... LIVE!"

So depressing

It won't be like that FFS :lol:

gza the genius · Apr 19, 2021

Yes. It's not like I'll find another club to support or just stop watching football in general. But I do imagine I'll care a lot less.

manc exile · Apr 19, 2021

gza the genius said:
Yes. It's not like I'll find another club to support or just stop watching football in general. But I do imagine I'll care a lot less.

i will just stop watching football

Crashoutcassius · Apr 19, 2021

SadlerMUFC · Apr 19, 2021

I'm up in the air. I never chose to support United to begin with. It just happened. Back in the early 90's in canada we used to have what was called "Soccer Saturday" on TSN. They would show 2 EPL games and one Serie A game. They usually showed a United game and I would just tune in because I had been playing the game since I was 4 years old (and still do now at 47). Next thing I knew I was cheering when United scored. That's when I realized I was a United supporter. So I don't know if I can just turn it off considering I didn't chose to turn it on in the first place. But this is horrible. I want to learn more about it, but it sounds like more money for the rich and screw all the other clubs...

Buster15 · Apr 19, 2021

Red Stone said:
This isn't the club I fell in love with, though. If United go through with this they finally become just another soulless company selling out everything they stood for to make a quick buck. Ever since the Glazers took over it's been going in this direction. I thought we were on the way back to where we came from with the positive steps taken to restore our identity under Ole, but this just tears down all of that work and takes a giant dump all over the ruins for good measure.

I'm done with United and possibly football as a whole if the ESL becomes a thing. There's been too much shite going on in football at the moment to not strain the relationship I have with the game, from the Qatar World Cup to a new VAR shambles every fecking match week to this turd cherry on top of the giant pile of shite. At least football has been making such an effort to fall out of my favours for long enough that the final breaking point won't be anywhere near as painful as it would have been otherwise.

Again, I can fully understand all of what you have said here.
But just like being married, which I have for 48 years to the same woman, I have changed, she has changed, but my love for her hasn't.
Manchester United has changed since I first fell in love with it after Munich. But it is the club, no, it is the team I have supported through thick and thin. And despite my distaste of the owners and the proposed ESL, United is my team.

Mrs Smoker · Apr 19, 2021

feck United.

Sheffield. But really, no. I'm already Manchester United'd up, even before this stupid league.

Buster15 · Apr 19, 2021

Mr Smith said:
There's a point when the club you fell in love with isn't that club anymore. Without meaning, the badge is just a brand. The ESL flies in the face of everything the club stands for.

Indeed it does. Pretty disgraceful really.

Dirty Schwein · Apr 19, 2021

UnitedSofa said:
It won't be like that FFS

It will eventually turn into that :lol:

Soon there'll be guest commentators like Justin Bieber calling the final.

Throw in some celeb refs like Shane McMahon and Channing Tatum. Although they'll probably be better than Con Moss.

Buster15 · Apr 19, 2021

gza the genius said:
Yes. It's not like I'll find another club to support or just stop watching football in general. But I do imagine I'll care a lot less.

Bang on my feelings as well.

Kill 'em all · Apr 19, 2021

If this goes through, football as we know it will be completely dead. Slowly money has crept into the game, turning most players into mercenaries and the passion has slowly drained away from the game. The only passion that was left was some of the players although very rare and the fans.

If this goes through, it will be the final nail in the coffin and will turn football into a full commercial activity with no care for the fans or the passion or anything else for that matter.

Luffy · Apr 19, 2021

I will still watch the matches. I don't have a season ticket. I don't buy Utd merchandise. I think the worst that could happen to us has already occurred. Being owned by the Glazers.

Maciej · Apr 19, 2021

For me that could be the end of it. Or maybe it is the end of it...

Obviously, it's really difficult to say when we don't know that much, but the whole atmosphere around this announcement and the reaction from fans all over the world really makes you think about it.

It hasn't been easy to support United since Fergie left, but after a few months with Solskjaer I started to feel same feeling again. I know the times have changed, but I've actually adapted to our new reality.

Football, bloody hell.

diarm · Apr 19, 2021

Buster15 said:
And that is entirely understandable.
But to me, Manchester United is Manchester United, whoever the owners happen to be and however unsavoury their motivations. My support is for the team

In exactly the same way, my home club happens to be Bristol Rovers.
They are crap, are going to be relegated to division 4 and are owned by a particularly useless Jordanian. But I still have the emotional bond having stood on the terraces hundreds of times when I was a kid.
Totally illogical, but that is football.

And in 10 years time, when the Glazers see an opportunity to make more money by moving the Red Devils United brand to Dallas or Tokyo? Will Manchester United still be Manchester United then?

How far do you bend before you break? I should have walked in 2005 but didn't out of similar sentiment to yours now. Back then people said today would never happen.

nimic · Apr 19, 2021

If United follows through with the Super League, then no, I won't support them any more. As it will be impossible to "just find another club", that will be the end of following football for me (except World Cup and Euros). Maybe that sounds dramatic, but I can't fake interest, and I would have zero interest in watching a Super League.

I'll be back if the parasites are ever removed, but until then...

Matthew84! · Apr 19, 2021

Time for every unhappy fan to protest against our owners, get together and show them how we feel,
Even if it means getting other club supporters together

Paul_Scholes18 · Apr 19, 2021

I have a local team I follow and I would stick with them. Hope that swedish football can survive with membership owned clubs etc.

Although I feel this is a war that might ruin football as we know it.

Bilbo · Apr 19, 2021

It obviously depends on how this is handled. I'm 100% in favour of protecting domestic football at all costs. If this turns out to be as damaging as it could be for every team not involved in it, that's going to be difficult to overlook.

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