Even if the reason they are saying it are wrong it's still true and it's better it's highlighted now than never.
European Super League
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
But Madrid, Juve etc are certs to qualify for CL every year and they take their league position seriously?
It just doesn't ring true to me
It’s amazing that this even needs to be explained. The fecking entitlement disgusts me.
Jesus
But that's the whole point. If you're team and the people you employ are good enough you earn a place.
If you're just in a competition because you thing you 'belong' there, what do you think the chances of you winning that competition are?
Be pretty odd to reference it every game to be fair. Most people probably aren't that bothered.
Has he ever had a problem with City? He's essentially doing similar at Salford.
Thought the Liverpool Leeds game would be free to air too, shouldve known better
This elitist attitude is everything that's wrong with football. We have no right to be in the CL every year neither do any other club.
Well City have done a lot of investment the local area which is far more than the Glazers ever had but your point it was he never mentioned it before when he had.
Every team is there by merit. They've worked to be in the Cl in some capacity.
12 teams of varying quality including midtable shite like Arsenal who won't be in the CL for two seasons running are guranteed membership regardless of how shite they are for 23 years.
We don't deserve to be in the CL every year when we've been fecking shit lately. How much of a clueless spoilt brat to be annoyed we're not in it every year.
75% of them?
As United have now changed their mind and not join the ESL, they have now changed their transfer window strategy to sign Joe Clothcap from Barrow, Winston Saltoftheearth from Stenhousemuir and Edward Truesupporter from non-league Widnes and will henceforth play their home games at Leigh Sports Village and take part in the Wetherspoons Watered down Bitter Cup instead of the Champions League.
Why even play games then? No need to play anyone outside top 6 since utd should be beating the mid table and relegation scrap anyway, why waste time on such games. Heck city should just stop playing anyone other than top European teams and may be liverpool because on paper they are clearly better than every one else end of.
But they can go down. That is the most crucial aspect of this. "Too big to go down" isn't as bad as "impossible to go down." I'd rather have an unlikely scenario versus an impossible one.
I agree that there's issues relating to clubs doping up and becoming too big, but this competition is double whammy because not only does it exacerbate those issues of financial inequality, it also immunises them from performance related repercussions and even worse, takes away performance rewards and motivations for non-SL clubs who have been left behind in the trail of all this.
Like I've said, the same 10-15 teams qualify for the Champions League as it stands year after year. All this would be doing is getting rid of the poorer teams and making it more competitive. I'm not agaisnt that aspect of the proposal. If you don't agree or have a different opinion, whatever but that's mine.
If we're shit we deserve to be in EL. You have to earn your place in the biggest competition.
What point is this trying to make?
Spot on!
Manchester United don't belong anywhere. They have to earn the right to play in any competition.
And lately, we have not performed well enough in any competition. Full stop.
I don't think it would be far from that number.
Come one mate, we should be in the CL. Why should better teams qualify and not us?
After winning like 8 in a row? Is it that beautiful?
I don't blame you for thinking about it this way, its how American sports work as well and its a fair enough opinion even if I disagree. To me, though, having to earn your place is a big part of what football is about, and the sad feelings you get when you're not in it are just as important and meaningful as the feelings you get when you get into the competition.
If all the other top clubs join the league and we don't, we're b*ggered anyway.
This is about billionaire owners annoyed their clubs can miss out on the Champions League if they have a bad season. That is it. It is about nothing more than that and they're willing to destroy their domestic leagues, cups, and all the other clubs in their countries for it. Billionaire owners that care nothing about the clubs they own or history of the game. But shitheads voting yes in this poll want to bend over and take it.
Earn it.
Greed.
"Klopp has destroyed his owners on national television" - Neville
Did I watch a different interview? Is this maybe just Neville trying to get a narrative going?
Did I watch a different interview? Is this maybe just Neville trying to get a narrative going?
I'm sure Sky would love to stream the entire broadcast tonight for free, suddenly they are batting for us fans after all, but they are frustrated by the terms of their contract with the Premier League.
Klopp destroyed his owners on national tv? I must’ve watched a different interview.
He's trying to fan the flames.
Klopp looked like he wanted to say lot about this but couldn't and he looked uncomfortable. He was saying a lot but actually nothing. Have there been instructions from higher people?
One question: Who's going to buy the tickets to these matches? It's not going to be the Ultras and other vocal groups. And the average football fan won't travel to fecking Turin for a midweek matchday 3. It'll turn into the NBA in that regard. Rich people using these matches as backdrops to spend an evening and get sloshed, some noise if a wonder goal happens, then murmurs and loud background music again. It'll spread from the boxes to the stands.
He hasn't had a problem with any of this until just before we kicked off yesterday.
He's been part of Sky's pundit team for the best part of 10 years and had a weekly show TV since 2014 and a podcast for all of at least this season. You'd think it would have come up on the odd occasion during that time, especially given how passionately he's arguing about it this evening.
Half of this SL 12 have been too garbage to be anywhere near CL football many years over the last decade, including United.
The CL winner gets 300% more prize money than a group stage competitor. The complete opposite of the prize structure in this SL.