Cavani, Hit or Big Hit?

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We know Cavani’s a better player individually yet none of us have any idea how he’d have performed alongside Yorke in 99.
We can surmise, though, based on his skill set that Cavani would've worked very well in a Fergie style 4-4-2.

My guess is that he would've been a brilliant partner for either Yorke or Cole.
 

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This 100%. It’s really refreshing to see a real hard working number 9 like Cavani, even if we don’t get to see the best version it’s the best we’ve had since RVP. However, I get so fecking annoyed when you compare our younger attackers to Cavani. The likes of Rashford, Greenwood and Martial have a long way to go and should be working a lot harder on and off the pitch. Put the work in, make the runs, force a mistake and eventually the goals and assists will come. They’re sulking way too much and that’s holding them back.
They all periodically walk/jog around like they have the weight of the world on their shoulders. Why is that? I reckon It’s our scouting most likely valuing technicality over fight and tenacity and we’ve ended up with 3 very similar players (Greenwood will be best of the lot) who don’t quite compliment each other and teams have sussed us out. Keep it deep and compact and we won’t fight enough to break them down. They all also look like they are owed something on the pitch and we should just win by virtue of showing up and doing a bit of running. Take up dangerous potions and gamble on the scrappy rebound goal, does anyone score headers anymore? fight for each other, press, tackle and harry and for gods sake pass it to each other instead of taking a 3rd and 4th meaningless touch

Rashford nowadays seems to only be interested in staying up and scoring that one type of goal and if it’s not on then he’s totally out of the game. Greenwood seems to flirt with playing aggressively and creatively but his standard performance is still too passive to be considered to be a nailed on starter here. They need to throw Sancho and a top young striker amongst them and whoever gets left out then so be it. I feel like there needs to be much more of a battle to get into and stay in the team. If you’re not doing it you’re out for a few games plain and simple. Sancho and James for example on either side of Cavani would still create a lot against most teams and press nice and high. Nobody has a divine right to start every game in poor form, mentally not there or unfit or whatever.
 
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Christ if I’m a lemon for not knowing the exact time you post what does that make you for doubting Cavani team contribution
Or perhaps then you’re a lemon for bringing up assessments from 2 months ago and equating them to the current reality. It’s evident to everybody that Cavani’s form in the past month has taken a large upturn and that any evaluation today should be very different from the evaluation of two months prior. Which again I’d refer you to my post, in its content, earlier today (not in its specific time).

My assessment from two months ago, I stand by 100%, every word of it, I also stand by my right to change my opinion based on Cavani’s performances and the importance of his performances in the past month.
 

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His anticipation and timing are both top class. He is rarely in an offside position, and he still has just enough pace to not get caught by the defenders once he gets ahead. His finishing is decent, but I've seen more clinical strikers. His ability to get into those scoring positions, however, is world class. His technique and passing are also surprisingly good. It seems Bruno and him have forged a nice partnership.
When striking the ball with either foot Cavani's favourite attribute to showcase is his shot power, which has been superb for all his career. During his final stretch at PSG he injured his hip after a furious penalty shot strike that rattled the net. His performance yesterday with the way with which he got the first goal, after trying twice to power blast his shot through the keeper, should alert everyone at the club that he is still as strong in mind and body.
 
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He's a proper footballer. Got a very high technical level, but also the work rate and team ethic to match. Great finisher, and great in the air. Will be delighted if he stays another season. Only regret is that we didn't sign him five years ago. Having players like him and Bruno in the team together really breeds that winning, fighting mentality too. A great signing, and to be honest a perfect lone striker. I've been so, so impressed with him. You always feel like he's going to score and be a headache for the opposition. His assist for Greenwood's goal a week ago was just gorgeous. If a Haaland or Mbappe was available and affordable in the summer you'd get them, but we all very much doubt that is doable, so I'd be more than happy to go into the new season with Cavani as our starting CF and Martial his understudy. And invest the funds in a proper, specialist DM, and a couple of good reserve full-backs, because if either Wan-Bissaka or Shaw get injured, then we are fecked. Telles is just awful, he's no where near the level required, and Williams is a calamity. It's a glaring hole in our squad.
 

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Thing is, we’ve been linked with Cavani for the last 7-8 years and I always felt like “no, avoid at all cost”. Boy, was I wrong...
 

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Or perhaps then you’re a lemon for bringing up assessments from 2 months ago and equating them to the current reality. It’s evident to everybody that Cavani’s form in the past month has taken a large upturn and that any evaluation today should be very different from the evaluation of two months prior. Which again I’d refer you to my post, in its content, earlier today (not in its specific time).

My assessment from two months ago, I stand by 100%, every word of it, I also stand by my right to change my opinion based on Cavani’s performances and the importance of his performances in the past month.
He was doing this back then and it was obvious to many but ok pal
Pleased you have accepted you’re wrong
 

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Ugh, can't believe I forgot my literal favourite player for United. Yes, Ruud absolutely it.

I think part of it is sheer drive and energy too. The types of players just keep making the run, taking the chance. It drives me insane watching Martial as he's basically the antithesis of that.
I think it's also that they're not afraid to miss, so they will keep getting into good positions. Martial appears to be the complete opposite, as soon as he misses his head goes down and he sulks.
 

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Fans are idiots. Me included. I wasn’t gone on Cavani because he was the cheap and very fortuitous option. I was more angry at the lack of planning than anything Cavani had done like most utd fans I’d imagine. What a player he is! In a world full of flashy wide forwards and attacking midfielders he’s a proper old school striker and a leader.
 

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I'm sure I wasn't the only one of a section of fans who knew Cavani would be a hit. Anyone whos followed him would know that he takes care of his health very well, is a model professional and leaves it all on the pitch. Even if he misses some chances, he will always work to get more and keep plugging away. That ilk of a player will never be turned away by the fans - and of course it helps he can be very ruthless in taking chances anyway!
 

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Very good trying to make out his good games are a rarity. You can’t escape the fact this thread is rather humiliating for you.
Read your post again and try thinking you are not a fecking idiot! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Seriously, I find it hard to classify any contributing player signed on a free as a failure. Now, a non-contributing player...

(And Cavani contributed almost immediately, he just had a really bad run of luck through he fall.)
 

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Hit, he’s done exactly what an experienced free transfer is supposed to do.
Exactly this. He's not a talisman. But he's done great. Despite being a classic Woodward manuevre done for all the wrong reasons, he's done well.
 

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If he is in PSG this season, they would probably be in the final
 
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Seriously, I find it hard to classify any contributing player signed on a free as a failure. Now, a non-contributing player...

(And Cavani contributed almost immediately, he just had a really bad run of luck through he fall.)
when such big wages are involved these days, the cost of a free player is still substantial - so I disagree with you on that.

The transfer window was late, Cavani signed on 5 Oct - so this was only a week later. This the survey wasn’t based on any actual performances from him.

let’s no forget the absolute outcry on here when he signed. An astonishing reaction from the majority of posters.

That survey would have reflected the wisdom of The Caf at the time.
 

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Big hit. I was one of the few defending his signing. And I am happy to have been proven right.
His problem was injuries, and Ole managed him very well by not overplaying him and being careful.
I always loved his non stop running and energy and he is very intelligent in his runs and link up play.
He was loved at psg but the brazilian gang in psg broke his relationship with the team since Neymar arrived with his childish behavior.

I love his character as well. This is a guy that loves to go in the wild fishing and spend time with his family instead of partying during his holidays. Money did not change him, he looks like a very authentic and likable guy.
 

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Of course big hit. Cavani is my favorite player from the 2018 World Cup, where I first saw him when I was rooting for my national team (not Uruguay))). But I confess that even I had little faith in the big success when Edinson moved to Manchester United after a downturn in his PSG career. I thought he would be the rotation player to replace Martial and Rashford. I am very glad that I was wrong. And I really hope for its extension.


Who knows, maybe he scored a lot at PSG if his partners played more for him. Here are the statistics showing that he was on a starvation diet in Paris.

https://www.sportbible.com/football...mar-and-mbappe-barely-pass-to-cavani-20181009

Even with a poor serve in the 18-19 season, Edinson scored 18 goals in Ligue 1 (in 1,677 minutes). The next season was the worst of his career - injuries and he was out of shape. I think Cavani is one of those players who need time to shoot after a long rest. To be honest, I must say that Tuchel did not immediately remove him from the starting lineup. But the scope was badly knocked down, and Edinson rarely used his chances. And even elementary bad luck. And the statistics of the partners' transfers does not use it. Then they stopped putting him at the start or gave him a short time at the end of the match for five minutes. The coach stopped believing in him, that's what oppressed Edinson in Paris. On the contrary, here he is inspired by the trust of Solskjaer. I haven't seen him in such a fire for a long time.
 
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From Jan 1st (He was suspended till 12th), he has 13 Goals + assists in 1238 mins (95 mins per G+A).

If it's from Feb, he has 12 goals + assist in 825 mins. 69 mins per G+A.
Both of those are insane. Him and Bruno have had an incredible impact. Same as Zlatan's was for me was incredible
 
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Or perhaps then you’re a lemon for bringing up assessments from 2 months ago and equating them to the current reality. It’s evident to everybody that Cavani’s form in the past month has taken a large upturn and that any evaluation today should be very different from the evaluation of two months prior. Which again I’d refer you to my post, in its content, earlier today (not in its specific time).

My assessment from two months ago, I stand by 100%, every word of it, I also stand by my right to change my opinion based on Cavani’s performances and the importance of his performances in the past month.
Sorry bud, this is the internet. You can't change your mind. Simply not how it works.

Just accept you're wrong and have made a "humiliating" thread, and whatever else. And we'll all ignore that Cavani is clearly playing way better now than he was when the topic was made, in order to score hindsight points.
 

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Sorry bud, this is the internet. You can't change your mind. Simply not how it works.

Just accept you're wrong and have made a "humiliating" thread, and whatever else. And we'll all ignore that Cavani is clearly playing way better now than he was when the topic was made, in order to score hindsight points.
Well you voted Brexit....so there :lol:
 

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There was a spell when he looked like he might be physically past it but that seems like a distant memory.

He probably deserves most of the credit for it but it helps that we have been putting more decent crosses in lately. The team seems to work a lot better when he is fit, in form and on the pitch. We need to replace him with a similar player when he goes.
 

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We should have bought him a decade ago. Imagine him and rvp ripping up the league.
 

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Been saying it for months and Months but was laughed at, the guy is brilliant! Fox in the box, a predator...should have signed him years ago. Need him to stay one more year
 

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Someone should ask fergie about what he thinks of cavani.