The vaccines | vaxxed boosted unvaxxed? New poll

How's your immunity looking? Had covid - vote twice - vax status and then again for infection status

  • Vaxxed but no booster

  • Boostered

  • Still waiting in queue for first vaccine dose

  • Won't get vaxxed (unless I have to for travel/work etc)

  • Past infection with covid + I've been vaccinated

  • Past infection with covid - I've not been vaccinated


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They seem to be speeding up a little here in central Italy, too. They opened my age group on Saturday, this week people in their 50s will be able to book.

On Saturday, 29,000 people aged 60-64 booked in the first 7 hours in our region. I got an appointment for Friday, I'll give it a go. If they say "no", then at least I tried @Wibble. At the big centres, they decide what vaccine you get after they've looked at your medical history.
They are hoping to open up to all age groups by the end of May. The original best case scenario was 14 May, here we are running about 10 days late and by the sounds of it are a few days ahead of you. We opened to the over 50s on Saturday.
 

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I may be getting J&J this week due to the trial ending on Friday (they have to discard any vaccines not used according to the trial requirements) and working in the Health industry (extremely back office admittedly). Still touch and go at this stage and I'm in my 30s so not high risk at all. But if the alternative is straight into the bin, I'm taking it.
 

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They are hoping to open up to all age groups by the end of May. The original best case scenario was 14 May, here we are running about 10 days late and by the sounds of it are a few days ahead of you. We opened to the over 50s on Saturday.
Friday in Ireland. Interesting how close EU countries are tracking, despite loads of assorted different tweaks to the vaccine strategy.
 

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34, first jab booked in for tomorrow. Wasn't expecting it quite so soon but got the text earlier today. Appointment isn't till 20:40 so they are putting in some long hours. No idea which one it'll be.
 

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They seem to be speeding up a little here in central Italy, too. They opened my age group on Saturday, this week people in their 50s will be able to book.

On Saturday, 29,000 people aged 60-64 booked in the first 7 hours in our region. I got an appointment for Friday, I'll give it a go. If they say "no", then at least I tried @Wibble. At the big centres, they decide what vaccine you get after they've looked at your medical history.
Good luck with the appointment and getting the right help.

I was looking at some of the background stats on Italy from this site:
https://coronavirus.gimbe.org/vaccini.it-IT.html

Interesting variations between the regions on vaccine take-up. I don't know if that's how they've prioritised/distributed their appointments or if it comes down to vaccine hesitancy. Lombardy comfortably 90%+ in the over 80s (and 80% in the 70-79) meanwhile Sicily and Calabria seem way behind.
 

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Still hoping they offer it to people in their 30s soon. I want to get it done before I go on my roadtrip.
 

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Still hoping they offer it to people in their 30s soon. I want to get it done before I go on my roadtrip.
In England? Best guess is 35+ next week across the country with some areas sending out texts this week. Rest of the 30+ group before the end of the month, again with a bit of regional variation followed by a national announcement.
 

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For once I wish I was older :(

32 in June. Hopefully I'll be soon.
 

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I’ve got my second Wednesday. Naturally my boss will get call Thursday advising him of side effects
 

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It’s a policy in Ireland. If you’ve had confirmed Covid infection in the last six months (and you’re < 50) then you only get one dose of vaccine.
Is there any danger if you get both with already having COVID few months before them? I mean, you can't "overdose" on antibodies can you? :nervous:

I am getting my second Pfizer dose day after tomorrow, 21 days after the first one, and had COVID in January.
 

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Is there any danger if you get both with already having COVID few months before them? I mean, you can't "overdose" on antibodies can you? :nervous:

I am getting my second Pfizer dose day after tomorrow, 21 days after the first one, and had COVID in January.
No reason to think it's a risk. A lot of people have had covid, then received two doses of vaccine. The debate is over whether it's a waste of a vaccine. :smirk:
 

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Is there any danger if you get both with already having COVID few months before them? I mean, you can't "overdose" on antibodies can you? :nervous:

I am getting my second Pfizer dose day after tomorrow, 21 days after the first one, and had COVID in January.
Be like an antibody superhero you mean?

Will an accidental overdose of COVID antibodies alter your body chemistry to a point where if you become angry or outraged a startling metamorphosis occurs?



Nah
 

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No reason to think it's a risk. A lot of people have had covid, then received two doses of vaccine. The debate is over whether it's a waste of a vaccine. :smirk:
Aye, I would have thought it is about the question of it being a waste, but just checking.

Be like an antibody superhero you mean?

Will an accidental overdose of COVID antibodies alter your body chemistry to a point where if you become angry or outraged a startling metamorphosis occurs?



Nah
Haven't thought of that, I'll start working on my Superhero costume design then.

Absolutely no risk of overdose of antibodies. Don’t worry.
Just checking, cheers!
 

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Looks like the UK initial vaccine rollout may complete with just the AZ, Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

J&J may not get approval for use in the under 50s (pending further data from the US and other countries where its being rolled out) which would mean it's too late to be useful in the UK, as it'll be mostly under 40s who need jabs by then.

Novavax are now talking about regulatory approval in Q3 (pushed back from April, then May, now ?). According to the Washington Post that's due to manufacturing problems. In particular that their assay method (QC test) didn't satisfy the FDA inspectors. Not an unusual problem, in fact early Pfizer batches had problems that were spotted during regulator review. Bad news as Novavax is one of the planned big suppliers for Covax/GAVI. Also bad news for me as I've now had an unapproved vaccine and can neither get an approved one, nor a NHS record saying I've had a real one. Doh.
 

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Looks like the UK initial vaccine rollout may complete with just the AZ, Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

J&J may not get approval for use in the under 50s (pending further data from the US and other countries where its being rolled out) which would mean it's too late to be useful in the UK, as it'll be mostly under 40s who need jabs by then.

Novavax are now talking about regulatory approval in Q3 (pushed back from April, then May, now ?). According to the Washington Post that's due to manufacturing problems. In particular that their assay method (QC test) didn't satisfy the FDA inspectors. Not an unusual problem, in fact early Pfizer batches had problems that were spotted during regulator review. Bad news as Novavax is one of the planned big suppliers for Covax/GAVI. Also bad news for me as I've now had an unapproved vaccine and can neither get an approved one, nor a NHS record saying I've had a real one. Doh.
When you grow that extra limb its time to worry
 

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Apparently the CDC will updates its guidelines Wednesday and then vaccinations can begin on 12-15 year olds.
 

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Naa I meant I contracted Covid in April. Tested negative around 20th April.
Should I wait a few days before getting vaccinated? A friend told me to wait 2-3 months before getting a shot.
The general advice seems to be to wait 14 days after the symptoms are gone and 90 days if you received passive antibody therapy as a precaution as we don't currently have much data concerning any interaction between the two. I'd ask your doctor or at least tell them when you book your appointment to get the jab to be sure.
 

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Looks like the UK initial vaccine rollout may complete with just the AZ, Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

J&J may not get approval for use in the under 50s (pending further data from the US and other countries where its being rolled out) which would mean it's too late to be useful in the UK, as it'll be mostly under 40s who need jabs by then.

Novavax are now talking about regulatory approval in Q3 (pushed back from April, then May, now ?). According to the Washington Post that's due to manufacturing problems. In particular that their assay method (QC test) didn't satisfy the FDA inspectors. Not an unusual problem, in fact early Pfizer batches had problems that were spotted during regulator review. Bad news as Novavax is one of the planned big suppliers for Covax/GAVI. Also bad news for me as I've now had an unapproved vaccine and can neither get an approved one, nor a NHS record saying I've had a real one. Doh.
Why can’t you get an approved vaccine?
 

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Good luck with the appointment and getting the right help.

I was looking at some of the background stats on Italy from this site:
https://coronavirus.gimbe.org/vaccini.it-IT.html

Interesting variations between the regions on vaccine take-up. I don't know if that's how they've prioritised/distributed their appointments or if it comes down to vaccine hesitancy. Lombardy comfortably 90%+ in the over 80s (and 80% in the 70-79) meanwhile Sicily and Calabria seem way behind.
Bit of both. There is a lot more vaccine hesitancy in the South, some of the age groups have low penetration rates but that's because nobody is showing up, especially for the AZ vaccine. The government has aimed for a 90% administration (somministrate) rate and some are far behind - https://www.governo.it/it/cscovid19/report-vaccini/

The South is generally less organised and more corrupt than the North too, with regions such as Calabria publicly stating they will refuse to follow the national plan to vaccinate by age group.
 

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Why can’t you get an approved vaccine?
Not for any particular technical reason. Quite a few trialists (particularly) in the US have already had two sets of jabs. That's typically been to give themselves proper CDC certified vaccine status for work/travel and now for returning to University in the autumn.

However in the UK, while the NHS record doesn't show you as "vaccinated" it doesn't show you as awaiting vaccination either. We're in a kind of limbo state of "undergoing treatment incompatible with the vaccines." Hence you can't book for an approved vaccine course. Three months ago (when I was offered an approved vaccine) I could have got away with it, but the records appear to have caught up with the trial.

It's a minor gripe in the scheme of things, but does potentially affect travel this summer. I've got family and friends in Spain, including one who's just had cancer surgery. If a vaccine passport qualifies me for simpler testing or quarantine controls then I'll be really annoyed with Novavax and the NHS research team for conning me on timelines etc! Which would be a shame as they've done great work so far.
 

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I had my first AZ vaccine on Wednesday.

For those wondering about side effects, mine were:

  • A sore arm from hour 0 through to hour 12
  • Headaches, chills and sore muscles from hour 12 to hour 24 (enough to make me forget about the sore arm)
  • A sore arm again from hour 24 to hour 36
In terms of severity, I'd say it was about as rough as a bad cold (albeit much shorter, and minus the sniffles and cough).

As somebody under 40, I was surprised to get the text message inviting me to come for a vaccine. But I figured I figured it was because of vaccine hesitancy in the area where my doctors are located (it has quite a high proportion of first generation immigrants).

Given the news about alternatives being offered to people my age, I'm expecting/hoping to get offered a different manufacturer for the second dose.
Can you mix them? Surely whatever your first dose is sure to be what you get for the second
 

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Not for any particular technical reason. Quite a few trialists (particularly) in the US have already had two sets of jabs. That's typically been to give themselves proper CDC certified vaccine status for work/travel and now for returning to University in the autumn.

However in the UK, while the NHS record doesn't show you as "vaccinated" it doesn't show you as awaiting vaccination either. We're in a kind of limbo state of "undergoing treatment incompatible with the vaccines." Hence you can't book for an approved vaccine course. Three months ago (when I was offered an approved vaccine) I could have got away with it, but the records appear to have caught up with the trial.

It's a minor gripe in the scheme of things, but does potentially affect travel this summer. I've got family and friends in Spain, including one who's just had cancer surgery. If a vaccine passport qualifies me for simpler testing or quarantine controls then I'll be really annoyed with Novavax and the NHS research team for conning me on timelines etc! Which would be a shame as they've done great work so far.
That’s bullshit. Has Novavax been approved in any territories, anywhere? You should harass your investigator for a solution. Study subjects shouldn’t be fecked over like this. Novavax should be engaging with the NHS to find a solution.
 

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Not for any particular technical reason. Quite a few trialists (particularly) in the US have already had two sets of jabs. That's typically been to give themselves proper CDC certified vaccine status for work/travel and now for returning to University in the autumn.

However in the UK, while the NHS record doesn't show you as "vaccinated" it doesn't show you as awaiting vaccination either. We're in a kind of limbo state of "undergoing treatment incompatible with the vaccines." Hence you can't book for an approved vaccine course. Three months ago (when I was offered an approved vaccine) I could have got away with it, but the records appear to have caught up with the trial.

It's a minor gripe in the scheme of things, but does potentially affect travel this summer. I've got family and friends in Spain, including one who's just had cancer surgery. If a vaccine passport qualifies me for simpler testing or quarantine controls then I'll be really annoyed with Novavax and the NHS research team for conning me on timelines etc! Which would be a shame as they've done great work so far.
This is interesting - I'm in the Valneva trial (first dose on Friday) and had been hoping that if needing a vaccine passport became an issue, I'd be able to get some sort of waiver, assuming the results were looking good. I've not got any great travel plans anyway, but would also be annoyed to be locked in. Seems ridiculous if you've had Novavax, and the issue delaying approval is more about QC than vaccine effectiveness.
 

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That’s bullshit. Has Novavax been approved in any territories, anywhere? You should harass your investigator for a solution. Study subjects shouldn’t be fecked over like this. Novavax should be engaging with the NHS to find a solution.
The line (from the NHS research teams) has always been that they're working with the regulators to ensure that triallists "aren't put at a disadvantage," but we don't know what that means in practice. Who knows, by the time the NHS App gets it's Vaccine Status page (17th May) they'll have found a way to describe us, that satisfies anyone who cares. Difficult without any regulatory approval though - not from anywhere in the world...

I admit, I was happy to take the safety gamble of the trial and happy to take the efficacy gamble as well. I didn't realise I was also being asked to bet on whether they could make millions of doses of the vaccine. That said, I did kind of assume that someone with no vaccine or a failed vaccine (like Sanofi) would have bought them (or "big brother-ed" them) by now :D
 

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This is interesting - I'm in the Valneva trial (first dose on Friday) and had been hoping that if needing a vaccine passport became an issue, I'd be able to get some sort of waiver, assuming the results were looking good. I've not got any great travel plans anyway, but would also be annoyed to be locked in. Seems ridiculous if you've had Novavax, and the issue delaying approval is more about QC than vaccine effectiveness.
I think we're all hoping for that waiver, and that businesses/countries who want proof of vaccine status just accept it. I'm conscious though that it only affects a small number of people (about 10,000 in the Novavax efficacy trial - all of whom have had two doses now) and that groups like the MHRA have got their hands full. The fact that Novavax now has an additional (NHS run) clinical trial underway, acting as a second dose option in the vaccine mixing trial gives me hope that the authorities are confident. Unfortunately they may be confident that MHRA approval will happen sometime this year, whereas I want a green light in the next month or so.

It's worth talking to your Valneva trial team though. They may already have an approved plan in mind.
 

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This is interesting - I'm in the Valneva trial (first dose on Friday) and had been hoping that if needing a vaccine passport became an issue, I'd be able to get some sort of waiver, assuming the results were looking good. I've not got any great travel plans anyway, but would also be annoyed to be locked in. Seems ridiculous if you've had Novavax, and the issue delaying approval is more about QC than vaccine effectiveness.
Initially you won't know whether you will have been given the vaccine or the blank will you? Hopefully by the time they've told you, and given you a true vaccine if necessary, they will have addressed the passport problem
 

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Initially you won't know whether you will have been given the vaccine or the blank will you? Hopefully by the time they've told you, and given you a true vaccine if necessary, they will have addressed the passport problem
No blanks in the Valneva trial - it's a head to head between AZ jabs and Valneva, to show that it produces similar or better levels of antibodies. So I'm definitely getting a vaccine, but won't know which.