Not for me, we've extended Cavani now and I'd rather keep Pogba as long as Ole keeps using him on the left instead of the double pivot.
Grealish & Kane in Pogba & Martial out
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I genuinely think Pogba will stay and not make a fuss (at least for a year) if we show some ambition this summer. I dislike Raiola's moaning as much as anyone, but it's hard to disagree with Pogba that until recently, United hasn't exactly headed in the right direction. It's not his place to judge that for anyone else of course, but it's nice to see that he expects and wants United to be a top top club, and not settle for not-quite-there.
Pogba has actually been good whenever he’s played this season and added consistency however for me it’s too little too late. I want players where when the going gets tough you are there and available and performing.
Pogba is not better than Grealish in the left forward position either.
Some say as long as Bruno and Rash are here Grealish doesn’t sign, I’m sorry but that is bollocks.
City have Foden, De Bruyne, Mahrez, Sterling, Gundogan, Aguero, Torres, Bernardo Silva.
Yes we may not have the resources to get 8 of that quality but the 6 I highlighted should and must be here and if not them then some of that quality.
Pogba is not better than Grealish in the left forward position either.
Some say as long as Bruno and Rash are here Grealish doesn’t sign, I’m sorry but that is bollocks.
City have Foden, De Bruyne, Mahrez, Sterling, Gundogan, Aguero, Torres, Bernardo Silva.
Yes we may not have the resources to get 8 of that quality but the 6 I highlighted should and must be here and if not them then some of that quality.
We only keep Pogba of he wants to sign a new deal, otherwise if off you go. Nobody wants to lose a transfer fee especially in these times. Ole may already know his fate as it's getting later in the season now, I'd have thought we would have had a clue from both of them. I'm still in for Sancho personally, DCM and backup right back.
No, why would we sell two of the best players we have. I would swap Kane for Martial, but Pogba is twice the player Grealish is.
Ideally I'd keep Pogba but I'd begrudgingly part with him if it meant us getting those 2 players in. They'd make us title challengers.
I’d stick with Cavani and Pogba, rather than invest in Grealish and certainly Kane.
Panic stations if Pogba does want to leave, as it would probably mean going for Grealish.
Panic stations if Pogba does want to leave, as it would probably mean going for Grealish.
i see things working like this over the next 3 transfer windows in this order:
pogba - out to juventus
martial - out to psg
kane and grealish - in
kane - out to dortmund
haaland - in from dortmund
grealish - out to arsenal (loan)
haaland - out - (forced to retire through injury via a roy keane attack from the commentary box)
kane - in from dortmund to replace haaland
kane - out to psg
martial - in from psg
grealish - out to arsenal (permanent)
lingard - in from west ham
pogba - out to juventus
martial - out to psg
kane and grealish - in
kane - out to dortmund
haaland - in from dortmund
grealish - out to arsenal (loan)
haaland - out - (forced to retire through injury via a roy keane attack from the commentary box)
kane - in from dortmund to replace haaland
kane - out to psg
martial - in from psg
grealish - out to arsenal (permanent)
lingard - in from west ham
Pogba needs to sign a new contract of be sold in the next couple of months. We can let him go on a free transfer. Martial has had a poor season, but I can't ignore his 23 goals last year. If we sell Pogba, then absolutely we should go for Grealish.
Kane feels like a modern day Alan Shearer or Le Tissier who will play out their career at one club. There's much to be admired about that.
Kane feels like a modern day Alan Shearer or Le Tissier who will play out their career at one club. There's much to be admired about that.
If we do end up selling Martial - he'll go on to become a terrific player for any other team... Many posters on here will be saying "but he didn't perform well here, he wasn't suited here". Every one of our forwards has struggled this season in patches - Martial has played way too less to be sold on the back of a "Players Player of the Year" season
I dont think pogba is going anywhere now and rightly so. Sancho this season and us going in for haaland next. I think thats where we are heading.
Rice, Sancho and Grealish for me, especially Grealish.
Keep Pogba too, we could then have the option to play 433 with Rice, Bruno and Pogba in midfield with Grealish, Cavani and Sancho as the forward line.
Backed up by:
Rashford
Greenwood
Martial
Amad
De Beek
James, Mata, Dalot and Lingard to go.
Keep Pogba too, we could then have the option to play 433 with Rice, Bruno and Pogba in midfield with Grealish, Cavani and Sancho as the forward line.
Backed up by:
Rashford
Greenwood
Martial
Amad
De Beek
James, Mata, Dalot and Lingard to go.
This would only make sense if he's just struggled in this particular season though which is clearly not the case. His whole Utd career has been patchy.
Kane £90 million“Leave the money out of it but it should be achievable with the addition of £50
Grealish £80 million, £170 million
Pogba £70 million
Martial £45 million
Lingard £30 million - £145 million
I think that’s reasonable given Kane’s age (28 in July)
I’d take that all day long, even if Kane and Grealish price tag goes up to £200 million, it’s still worth it for £50 million. Add lingard sale.
It’s seriously isn’t that laughable at all.
Hahahha
It is. I’ll tell you why;
first of all, you will need to crack 100m for Kane. He’s English, consistent, and you’re dealing with Levy.
grealish you are probably in the ball park there. So that’s 180m before you look at wages.
Pogba has what, 6 months before he can sign a pre-contract and walk away for nothing next summer. No way you’re getting 70m. He’s a good player but nobody is cracking 50m at a push for him. His usual spots he wants are all skint. You have to factor in that we just won’t get the price for him. It’s why madrid were desperate for the ESL to go ahead, they’d be able to play Harlem Globetrotters again.
Martial is probably about right, though again who’s got the money to splash on him? PSG maybe but he needs to start scoring again
I think because Lingard is almost out of contract again we are looking at probably 20m or so. Yes he’s been excellent but doesn’t change the fact he’s almost out of contract
that’s why I laughed, it’s pure dreamland
But from what you’ve said you’re talking an extra 10 for Kane and 20 less for Pogba, I don’t think it’s dreamland territory even by that response.
Even though I do understand these things are never easy and what I’ve mentioned most likely won’t happen but a scenario along these lines isn’t impossible.
Again, I can’t remember the last time a top 6 club sold a great player to one another but this isn’t an ordinary year.
I’m trying to be optimistic with my pricing
also forgot to mention you also chucked lingard in at the last minute. Not mentioned in your OP!
now cavani is done I think that a striker will be put on next years list
I don't think the board will see Grealish for 100 mlion as an urgently needed acquisition.
Levy will demand too much for Kane.
With Greenwood starting on the right, Diallo coming through, maybe no need for Sancho.
I think the board will try to land more super kids. I think they'd do anything to land Carney Chukwuemeka with a view to pairing with Garner in a year or two.
Pau Torres and Carney Chukwuemeka would be a decent transfer window. Maybe Danny Ings brought in as back up to Cavani.
Levy will demand too much for Kane.
With Greenwood starting on the right, Diallo coming through, maybe no need for Sancho.
I think the board will try to land more super kids. I think they'd do anything to land Carney Chukwuemeka with a view to pairing with Garner in a year or two.
Pau Torres and Carney Chukwuemeka would be a decent transfer window. Maybe Danny Ings brought in as back up to Cavani.
What a ridiculous statement. Which player in the last 6 years hasn't had a patchy time for us? Pogba? Rashford? Shaw?
The guy was literally the players player of the month last fecking year.
In ideal scenario:
In: Rice (65m), Haaland (100m+40m agent fee) or Kane (120m) or Ronaldo (35m)
Out: VDB (25m), Martial (35m), De Gea (15m)
But most likely:
In: Sancho (80m)
Out: Pereira (7m)
In: Rice (65m), Haaland (100m+40m agent fee) or Kane (120m) or Ronaldo (35m)
Out: VDB (25m), Martial (35m), De Gea (15m)
But most likely:
In: Sancho (80m)
Out: Pereira (7m)
I can never get over that ludicrous agent fee. If I was in that field I'd expect to be paid well with all the money being involved, but still. It's like he's pushing it just for fun to see how far it can go.
Not sure why Grealish’s agent has purposely come out to say we aren’t top of the list on signing him, maybe we aren’t showing much interest.
Martial has only played well in 2 seasons for us, he's put in so many poor performances, the team can't continue to carry someone who just doesn't seem like he enjoys playing for Utd, he's lazy and moans too much. Sell him now to reinvest in the squad,
His 7 goals this season is something you expect from a midfield player not a striker.
Get Sancho in and sell Martial.
Now that cavani has re-signed for another year. Kane or any other striker is a non starter for this summer.
MEN (not always the most reliable source of Utd news) has said that Utd think sancho is less of a priority now that greenwood is establishing himself.
Personally id be happy with a CB partner for Maguire, which is our most pressing need. Other than that, i dont see Utd paying the money villa want for Grealish. A longer term replacement for matic and or pogba would be good. Now the ESL money isnt available anymore we will have to cut our cloth accordingly and i think this summer will see a new CB and a back RB come in as a minimum.
MEN (not always the most reliable source of Utd news) has said that Utd think sancho is less of a priority now that greenwood is establishing himself.
Personally id be happy with a CB partner for Maguire, which is our most pressing need. Other than that, i dont see Utd paying the money villa want for Grealish. A longer term replacement for matic and or pogba would be good. Now the ESL money isnt available anymore we will have to cut our cloth accordingly and i think this summer will see a new CB and a back RB come in as a minimum.
The chances are Pogba wants to stay, Martial should stay only if he's willing to work hard on the pitch. Hopefully Ole will talk with the lad about proper attitude in order to become title race force, next season.
Kane maybe, sorta, kinda, after Edi will finish his new contract, but then again we need to jump above losses caused by Covid, because Glazers won't invest in this club. Sad, repeating reality, especially with a glaring need of an all round defender, midfield destroyer and a player to resurrect the right wing.
Grealish is a must if Raiola's fantasy will come to fruition and Madrid conjure up somekind of a warchest. Glad we secured Cavani, but this window can still become unpleasant ride.
Gut feeling tells Pogba and Martial will stay, Jesse will go and Phil Jones become Shakespearean actor.
Kane maybe, sorta, kinda, after Edi will finish his new contract, but then again we need to jump above losses caused by Covid, because Glazers won't invest in this club. Sad, repeating reality, especially with a glaring need of an all round defender, midfield destroyer and a player to resurrect the right wing.
Grealish is a must if Raiola's fantasy will come to fruition and Madrid conjure up somekind of a warchest. Glad we secured Cavani, but this window can still become unpleasant ride.
Gut feeling tells Pogba and Martial will stay, Jesse will go and Phil Jones become Shakespearean actor.
Cavani rules Kane out. And it's a much smarter decision than spending all summer on such a wild goose chase.
Pogba will stay, as he's no doubt got his eyes on a free transfer release and trousering another 100k a week wages, which only clubs getting him free will be able to do.
Grealish - no chance. A position we're stacked in.
Has to be centre defence, a proper right sided attacker, or an animal central midfielder who can do what McFred can't do, and solo.
Pogba will stay, as he's no doubt got his eyes on a free transfer release and trousering another 100k a week wages, which only clubs getting him free will be able to do.
Grealish - no chance. A position we're stacked in.
Has to be centre defence, a proper right sided attacker, or an animal central midfielder who can do what McFred can't do, and solo.
The way Pogba is playing at the moment - we need him to beat City. If he signs a new contract, he stays.
Amazes me that there are some posters who think Grealish would warm our bench.
He would easily walk straight into our starting eleven.
He would easily walk straight into our starting eleven.
I think Jonathan Barnett could be the man Ole turns to this summer.
He's Luke Shaw's agent and we're on good terms with him. He is also the agent of Camavinga, Gareth Bale and Saul Niguez. 3 players Ole may take a serious look at this summer, whether on loan or long term contract.
I just can't see the club giving a long term contract to Pogba with all the trouble his scumbag narcissist agent likes to cause. Van de Beek can play the same left side role if we sl Pogba.
Pau Torres, Camavinga on long term deals, and Bale as an impact sub on loan for a season, would be a nice summer.
He's Luke Shaw's agent and we're on good terms with him. He is also the agent of Camavinga, Gareth Bale and Saul Niguez. 3 players Ole may take a serious look at this summer, whether on loan or long term contract.
I just can't see the club giving a long term contract to Pogba with all the trouble his scumbag narcissist agent likes to cause. Van de Beek can play the same left side role if we sl Pogba.
Pau Torres, Camavinga on long term deals, and Bale as an impact sub on loan for a season, would be a nice summer.
Pogba has to stay. Can't believe people want him to be sold. If we sell Pogba, we are actually taking 2 steps back. He and Bruno are our creative players.
Add Sancho
Bruno, Pogba, Rashford, Cavani, Sancho is as good as City attacking options.
Add Sancho
Bruno, Pogba, Rashford, Cavani, Sancho is as good as City attacking options.
Great point actually. One of Saul /Camavinga would be great.
Disagree on Pogba though. He has to stay.
I know mate. Pogba and Martial's combined fees probably wouldn't even get one of Grealish or Kane. So many dreamers on this forum when it comes to discussing transfer fees for player sales.“Leave the money out of it but it should be achievable with the addition of £50
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Totally.
Haha, yes, guilty.
Can see grealish going to city, unfortunately 
Negative.
Pogba is better and more versatile than Grealish. He's also less of a cultural problem which sounds like it will be crucial with our current management. Also, Grealish appears to have some chronic injury, so yeah no thanks. Although I agree he's young and good but nah, too much money.
As for Martial and Kane, I'd take a straight swap but not much beyond that. Kane is getting on, injury-prone (although so is Martial somewhat) and is older. Just not worth investing the money and time needed to get him when we've got Greenwood. We need to focus on providing service to our strikers, not getting more of them.
Pogba is better and more versatile than Grealish. He's also less of a cultural problem which sounds like it will be crucial with our current management. Also, Grealish appears to have some chronic injury, so yeah no thanks. Although I agree he's young and good but nah, too much money.
As for Martial and Kane, I'd take a straight swap but not much beyond that. Kane is getting on, injury-prone (although so is Martial somewhat) and is older. Just not worth investing the money and time needed to get him when we've got Greenwood. We need to focus on providing service to our strikers, not getting more of them.
There is no way the Spurs chairman would sell Kane to United for £90m, more like £150m. Grealish's club want £100m. Neither club want to sell so, we have to pay over the top. We have to sell Pogba which means anything from £70m to £50m as he's approaching the last year of his contract. My attitude is we should keep him if we can.
Martial should go but if LIngard doesn't want to come back then we should sell him for no less that £60m and/or exchange for Declan Rice plus £40m. Unless of course, Lingard only has a year on his contract.
The season is the last chance Riaola could take a big chunk out of agent fees and 40m is what he earned from Pogba transfers years ago, I wouldn't expect he ask any less for Haaland, his biggest assets. But only if Dortmund refuse to let Haaland go this season...