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Tue, 11 May 2021

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Disappointed in yet another corner goal conceded but the result is expected. Matic had a Jekyll and Hyde game, at fault for both of the goals but was our entire midfield at times. If we had the option of starting Fred, we'd have at least drawn this game as Leicester's only tactic was to give Tielemans the ball and none of our midfielders had the speed to catch up to him. To be fair to them, it worked.

The young lads showed their qualities and I think Amad has earned a few more appearances. Cavani or Bruno should've scored, lovely play from Telles.

One last match on the gauntlet, win that and this result will be trivial.
 

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Thought the reserves and kids did us proud, all things considered.

Horrible situation to be put in by the FA. Dangerous to the players and questions the integrity of the league. Shameful really.
Yeah. Think this is Ole's statement about the fixture schedule. Hope Leicester lose the cup final now. Bring them back down to earth after beating Manchester United reserves.
 

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Gave City the title today, which is miserable in and of itself.

Then I look at that starting XI and I’m inclined to think that team would not crack top 10 in the league (defence and midfield, not talking about the forwards).

It is what it is, threw away the league with our home form and terrible patch of draws.

Looking forward to next season, need 1-2 starting XI players and need to beef up the squad. The fall off between the first team and the bench is steep.
 

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Result doesn't matter in grand scheme but i had hoped for a little better.

Matic by far our best player. Especially in the first half when he started splitting the defence who were playing like a pair of strangers. Tuanzebe improved massively second half.

Brandon needs a loan. Hes in poor form and we can't afford to give him the minutes.

Amad impressed me though.
 

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There's a difference between negativity and realism buddy. He played a 5 yard pass back to Greenwood who demonstrated excellent dribbling to bring the ball into the box and open up a scoring opportunity. If you think that Elanga had a good game them I'm afraid we didn't watch the same game. Let's just end it there because I know you're the type who could go on for a while going round in circles.
It wasn’t a pass back, he played it nicely into Greenwood after doing well to win it from a long ball in the first place imo. Just because Greenwood does well to make space for himself it doesn’t mean Amad didn’t do well too. Negativity being seen as realism is a bit of a fallacy imo that’s used quite a bit. Your opinion being a negative one doesn’t mean it’s correct, I think you’re too harsh. :)
 

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Not going to draw any wild conclusions from this game but the fact that we are still so inept at defending corners gives me pain and makes me question the coaching.

Surely we should expect to see some basic improvement there, notwithstanding the many changes tonight.
 

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Matic was the worst player on the pitch in my opinion

Irrelevant, add something new, you're on repeat.
Im not at all. I got attacked a few weeks ago for saying he’s well off it and we would play a lot better without him as a focal point in the attack. I think that’s slowly been proven correct with Pogba on the left, Cavani hitting similar numbers with minimum fuss and Greenwood suddenly coming to life. Our overall play has improved and our attack is a lot more unpredictable and hard working without him. I get a lot of you guys really love him but he shouldn’t be nailed on as he was for most of this season if he’s not fit and he was poor again when he came on today. I’m not looking for another Rashford argument with anyone but where’s the harm in pointing out what I was saying is correct?
 

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Well who is getting relegated is sorted, top four could be soon, last day of season might be either who gets a EL spot or absolutely nothing.
 

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Watch the two goals back. He was awful in both. Watch the chance Ihaenacho had, he was awful for that too. Then there were the passes he gave away leaving us to have to drop back quick. He was awful.

His job wasn't easy with those around him but he made a hash of so much.
Disagree.
Watch the entire match; Being beaten on the post by Soyuncu can happen and yes can do better but Rashford had him.
The rest of the match he was our midfield and did very well, shielding, passing, driving and covering.

The first goal is a combination of 3 players pushing high all together and a very credit worthy ball into the space.
 

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Horrible heading by Greenwood and Rashford. +
No proper aerial service for Cavani, Rashford and Mata should be flogged.
 

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Feels Like United went out of a competition with a whimper, there is no elite mentality in Ole, and It feels like he is pinning his hopes on Winning the Europa league.

Where was the not over until its officially over mentality?

If he does not manage to win the europa league this season then in general its another poor season.

VDB,Mata,Matic all players that could easily be let go.

Williams needs to be sent out on loan or sold, the Rashford sub was pointless because the only thing he offered was conceading a goal.

In general , United lacking a killer mentality.
So what did you want Ole to do, play the full strength team in three games in six games ahead of a final?
 

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Matic was the worst player on the pitch in my opinion

Irrelevant, add something new, you're on repeat.
Eh? He was the one player breaking up play and also not being sloppy with the ball. I think only our two centre backs, Matic and Greenwood from that starting eleven were any good at all. Amad worked hard closing down and you can sense ability, but he doesnt look ready to step up at the moment. Elanga looks absolutely rapid and also looked very nervous, good experience for him though.

Our full backs were poor, especially WIlliams who looks to have lost confidence, VDB was anoymynous
 

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Can we just lock the thread and move on. Almost everything that happened is pretty irrelevant. Tough to even judge the likes of Matic and Mata as they haven’t played any kind of regular football, and they were playing with a completely disjointed and thrown together team.

BT keep repeating the fact that Leicester’s team cost less than ours at £210 million. I added ours up to £190 million :rolleyes:
 

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Yeah. Think this is Ole's statement about the fixture schedule. Hope Leicester lose the cup final now. Bring them back down to earth after beating Manchester United reserves.
I hope they win the cup. I like trophies being shared around smaller teams. It’s what makes the league great.

Of course they were happy today, the relief must be huge. They have been imploding again but it’s hardly surprising when they have a much smaller budget than the bigger teams and less chance to rotate throughout the season. They looked gassed and sloppy. Hopefully with less pressure on them, they’ll be able to properly express themselves in the cup final. They deserve a top four finish.
 

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Matic was a game of two halves, and thats how it is when his stamina/legs are what they are.

Diallo showed glimpses, VdB was just ... poor.

Ironic how they scored because Rashford not following a man when we just got on our heavy hitters.

Leicester were shockingly poor, their nerves must be of glass. Really hope we get a result against Pool now or it will be a torrid week.

I want to secure 2nd!
 

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Expected it but was still slightly taken aback by how poor we actually were. All will be forgiven if we can get a win Thurs but sadly with Maguire missing, the rest of our defenders are not PL quality and we would have to score 3-4 to win!
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Expected it but was still slightly taken aback by how poor we actually were. All will be forgiven if we can get a win Thurs but sadly with Maguire missing, the rest of our defenders are not PL quality and we would have to score 3-4 to win!
Well I thought our defenders played well, after the first 15/20 minutes. Williams probably the weakest of the four, but Leicester's first goal, and the Iheanacho chance that De Gea saved were caused by Matic not picking up runners, and the winner caused by both Rashford losing his man, and Matic static, and not attacking the balI. Can only remember one other chance for Leicester, when Tielemans hit the post.
You would expect Leicester, with the supposedly top class midfield of Ndidi, Tielemans and Perez, to dominate a midfield of Matic, Van Der Beek and Mata. I was actually disappointed with Leicester overall, we dominated them for the last 15 minutes or so.
 

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Im not at all. I got attacked a few weeks ago for saying he’s well off it and we would play a lot better without him as a focal point in the attack. I think that’s slowly been proven correct with Pogba on the left, Cavani hitting similar numbers with minimum fuss and Greenwood suddenly coming to life. Our overall play has improved and our attack is a lot more unpredictable and hard working without him. I get a lot of you guys really love him but he shouldn’t be nailed on as he was for most of this season if he’s not fit and he was poor again when he came on today. I’m not looking for another Rashford argument with anyone but where’s the harm in pointing out what I was saying is correct?
You'd be wrong to think I'm one of those that love him, it's just about time you spoke about something else, first comment in the post match thread from you was unsprisingly a negative comment about Rashford.
 

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Sad to have lost against Leicester but what can we do... let's win against Liverpool, and then focus on the EL. My hope is that the win against Liverpool secures more the 2nd place.
 

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I know. I wanted to win every remaining game and push City to the wire.

I am a big fan of Ole's work - but I feel he got it wrong tonight. He seems to have got caught up in trying to prove a point to the FA about the fixture pile up.

He could easily have played decent starting line ups against Leicester and Liverpool while still rotating.

I doubt he would have fielded that team if 76,000 people had been there.
Decent Line up !? And then that decent line up play against Liverpool after 48 hours? Rotation doesn't rest a lot in quantity and quality with a decent line up.
We have a the toughest fixture in a toughest season.
If we don't rest in this toughest fixture, we would be easy to lose those games in row.
We lost a Start XI last game, we cannot afford to lose another one because of fatigue to play our final in cup competition.
 

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You'd be wrong to think I'm one of those that love him, it's just about time you spoke about something else, first comment in the post match thread from you was unsprisingly a negative comment about Rashford.
Well what did he do when he came on? Lost his man for the corner and ran around dribbling into opposition players. The young lads did more. It is what it is.
 
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Considering the team put out was the second string (bar DDG), thought they did ok first half. Nice to see a couple get some decent PL minutes.

2nd half poor, lost the midfield and looked tired. Mata and Matic is not a good idea when need legs.

For all the talk about RWs (we can play Greenwood there), CF (Cavani re-signed) and CH, if it was just ONE big signing, it'd be Def Mid for me... swap Ndidi and Matic tonight and we'd win that.

Would've preferred the win but bright spot is Liverpool less likely to get CL
 

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Can we just lock the thread and move on. Almost everything that happened is pretty irrelevant. Tough to even judge the likes of Matic and Mata as they haven’t played any kind of regular football, and they were playing with a completely disjointed and thrown together team.

BT keep repeating the fact that Leicester’s team cost less than ours at £210 million. I added ours up to £190 million :rolleyes:
Thank you.

I don't know exactly a) what people were expecting and b) why people are judging or overly criticising... This was a nothing game.
 

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Eh? He was the one player breaking up play and also not being sloppy with the ball. I think only our two centre backs, Matic and Greenwood from that starting eleven were any good at all. Amad worked hard closing down and you can sense ability, but he doesnt look ready to step up at the moment. Elanga looks absolutely rapid and also looked very nervous, good experience for him though.

Our full backs were poor, especially WIlliams who looks to have lost confidence, VDB was anoymynous
Yeah he was beating the “Matić is terrible” drum all match, when he was clearly the best of our midfielders. Huge agenda on this one.
 

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I hope they win the cup. I like trophies being shared around smaller teams. It’s what makes the league great.

Of course they were happy today, the relief must be huge. They have been imploding again but it’s hardly surprising when they have a much smaller budget than the bigger teams and less chance to rotate throughout the season. They looked gassed and sloppy. Hopefully with less pressure on them, they’ll be able to properly express themselves in the cup final. They deserve a top four finish.
I know what you mean. They have never won the F.A.Cup have they? Actually not sure I fancy a Chelsea double, because I hope they win the CL.
 

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Disagree.
Watch the entire match; Being beaten on the post by Soyuncu can happen and yes can do better but Rashford had him.
The rest of the match he was our midfield and did very well, shielding, passing, driving and covering.

The first goal is a combination of 3 players pushing high all together and a very credit worthy ball into the space.
First goal Matic gets completely dragged towards the ball, let's the man completely run off him to make a cross. That is Matics only job to stop that happening.

Second goal, it's not massively on him but he is incredibly weak considering he sees Soyuncu coming and doesn't try jump.

He let Ihaenacho completely run off him to get in a goal scoring opportunity.

Other than that there were at least two times he put us under massive pressure giving away a simple pass.

When the worst of the chances conceeding come from mistakes from the CDM in the team, he can't have had a good game.

The only positive I'd give him is that he didn't hide from the ball like Mata and VDB seemed too
 

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I know what you mean. They have never won the F.A.Cup have they? Actually not sure I fancy a Chelsea double, because I hope they win the CL.
Exactly right. No they’ve never won it. And I find them winning less offensive than Chelsea. Especially as, as you say, a Chelsea CL victory is better than City.
 

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Think Matic & Mata shown theyre completely done at this level.

Tuanzabe seemed to have a very good game, a couple of moments on the ball were ropey but did well defensively.

Other than that I thought it was a good run our for a few players. Never want to drop points but this was probably the best scenario in which to do so. If we win on Thursday it will have been worth it.
I thought Matic played well.
 

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Do you think that there's possibly a chance that they might just be excited to have got a crucial 3 points in the CL race? Especially after capitulating against Newcastle under the pressure?

Or do you think it's just the prestige from beating the United second XI.
I think that dropping to your knees at full time to celebrate a win against some reserves that had already been sewn up around half an hour ago is embarrassingly small time.

Don't get me wrong, it's a much needed win for Leicester, and I'd much rather they get top 4 than Liverpool, but the celebrations were way over the top - they have an actual cup final coming up this weekend, let's hope they aren't too emotionally drained for it.
 

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To anyone who can do maths. They’d have fecked it up even if we’d won, they’re that shit.
But we dont get to put the nail in the coffin on Thursday if we won tonight. Im in the lose tonight camp, especially after the news about Liverpool wanting Sancho broke yesterday and Salah likely going to PSG.
It could set the club back years and signal the end of Klopp at Liverpool. If Leicester lost v our reserves tonight it would have killed them
 

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Shame we lost but we couldn't play best team. We did ok. Matic was best player.
 

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