Thoroughly deserved win. That pink to black was fantastic.
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Sorry for Shaun ...never liked Selby
Great final. Selby was a worthy winner.
Murphy should never have taken that red on.
Selby could easily get to Hendrys seven.
Selby could easily get to Hendrys seven.
Nice speech from Murphy. What a lovely guy
Selby's essentially the 15 goal conceded Chelsea isn't he.... yeah you have some talent up top, but once Lamps has put you 1 up, it'll do until it won't. Selby's got a great game, but he just prefers to grind it out because he's the one most happy doing that.... he's hardly Ebdon or Dott for instance.
Did Murphy actually look closely at it? If it was touching the cushion I could understand it but it’s a hospital shot when it’s a fraction off like that
Nice speech from Murphy.
Very likeable is Shaun
Good final enjoyable to watch. Great seeing a full house. Can’t wait for other sports to follow.
Lovely and classy from Murphy, would like to see him win another world title. Not everyone’s cup of tea but Selby one of the all time great match players. Congrats to him and very possible he could end up on 6 or 7.
Very silly from Murphy to go all out for that red along the cushion. He had Selby under pressure and to gift him the match like that was just daft. He had a great tournament though and exceeded all expectations.
You'd think Selby could get to Ronnie's 6, or Hendry's 7, but longevity in this or any sport is a bitch. Otherwise with Hendry's talent he should have got to 10 well before he retired.
Selby has proved why he's that category better than Higgins, who is also a great. Respect to Selby, always in Ronnie's shadow but a genius of the sport in his own right.
Selby has proved why he's that category better than Higgins, who is also a great. Respect to Selby, always in Ronnie's shadow but a genius of the sport in his own right.
Murphys a mad bastard. Such an attacking player. Love it when he bangs a long pot in but that last missed red was a bit too mental with everything hinging on it. Can see why he done it as the alternative is a likely tactical battle and no one better at them than Selby
He shouild have played a canon - and then run for cover easily if it didn't come off.
Weirdly, my snooker appetite after Worlds is actually increasing, and it's always like that.
Sadly, some best of seven garbage will be the first tournament probably. It's incredible just how much better long format matches are. At least we have such tournies once or twice per year.
Well done Mark. Enjoyable final, and the whole tournament. Murphy surprised me greatly with improved tactical play, his and Selby's coach must have had something to do with that. Robertson probably the biggest loser. Oh wait, Maguire. That guy is one big bowl of disappointment.
Sadly, some best of seven garbage will be the first tournament probably. It's incredible just how much better long format matches are. At least we have such tournies once or twice per year.
Well done Mark. Enjoyable final, and the whole tournament. Murphy surprised me greatly with improved tactical play, his and Selby's coach must have had something to do with that. Robertson probably the biggest loser. Oh wait, Maguire. That guy is one big bowl of disappointment.
Also, Selby is ruthless with finals.
What's it now, 11 or 12 consecutive finals that he won? Proper finals, of course, don't mention Shootout, that's just silly.
What's it now, 11 or 12 consecutive finals that he won? Proper finals, of course, don't mention Shootout, that's just silly.
I went to look at his wiki and career stats before the final just to get a refresher and saw how insane it was. Definitely in the top 5 of all time now no ?
Maguire always seems on the verge of losing his temper whenever I see him play.
The World Seniors have started today.
The age range is 40+ which I think is too low given that you've still got top 16 players like O'Sullivan, Higgins, Williams, Bingham, Hawkins, that are well in their 40's.
I think, in Snooker, 'seniors' should be a bit older than that - especially if they're still on the main circuit (on merit, not by invitation like White and Hendry). Mark Williams won it in 2015 when he was 40 but still a top player, which is a bit unfair to the rest of the seniors.
This year, the only one of the 16 that I'd question is Igor Figueiredo, who's 43 and has just guaranteed himself two more years on the main circuit on merit. Unfortunately he's on course to play Hendry if they both win their first match and, as I'm eager to see as much of Hendry during this comeback as possible, that's a bit of a bugger that he's drawn a genuine main circuit player in the senior tournament.
The age range is 40+ which I think is too low given that you've still got top 16 players like O'Sullivan, Higgins, Williams, Bingham, Hawkins, that are well in their 40's.
I think, in Snooker, 'seniors' should be a bit older than that - especially if they're still on the main circuit (on merit, not by invitation like White and Hendry). Mark Williams won it in 2015 when he was 40 but still a top player, which is a bit unfair to the rest of the seniors.
This year, the only one of the 16 that I'd question is Igor Figueiredo, who's 43 and has just guaranteed himself two more years on the main circuit on merit. Unfortunately he's on course to play Hendry if they both win their first match and, as I'm eager to see as much of Hendry during this comeback as possible, that's a bit of a bugger that he's drawn a genuine main circuit player in the senior tournament.
I don't really watch the seniors to be honest, but shouldn't they just make it invite only, or exclusive to players not on the tour? I don't begrudge journeymen like Figueiredo trying to make a bit of easy money but hardly seems in the spirit of the tournament when you have John Parrott playing
Just seen Joe Johnson is playing at the age of 68, 
that's what it should be like.
that's what it should be like.Yeah, it's a funny one.
It does seem to be invitational, and Figueiredo is a late replacement - but the people who withdrew were Cliff Thorburn, Tony Drago and Bob Chaperon - who are aged 55-73 - and replaced by Tony Knowles and Patsy Fagan, who are in their 60's and 70's, but also Figueiredo who is just 43 and still on the main circuit so he's a real outlier in all that.
There's one or two others in their 40's - David Lilley and Lee Walker (and Walker has already lost) but I do think it should be for the older players or those 40+ who aren't on the main circuit on merit and are younger than some top 16 players. In Snooker terms, a 43 year old isn't really a 'senior'.
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God I can't imagine Cliff Thorburn has sped up in his 70s. Not sure how many people want to watch that.Watched the Snooker Gods on BBC tonight first of three parts.
Watching the people's champion Alex Higgins at the moment.
Next week features Steve Davis and followed by the 85 final.
Still gives me shivers that 82 semi final White v Higgins and that clearance from Higgins particularly that blue to the green pocket.
Watching the people's champion Alex Higgins at the moment.
Next week features Steve Davis and followed by the 85 final.
Still gives me shivers that 82 semi final White v Higgins and that clearance from Higgins particularly that blue to the green pocket.
Been watching the world cup of Pool and the level has been so bad . Once you have seen snooker this feels like proper amateurs playing
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I've been watching quite a bit of this - neither of those shots should be missed at that level.
To be fair the standard this year is way down on normal, the players for some reason seem very nervy.
GB's A team got really pushed by the ladies from Belarus a couple of nights ago but came through.
Our C team - the legendary duo of Appleton & Boyes - won last night having only entered because of a withdrawal. It's great to see them back!
It's interesting from a tactical point of view and after the snooker season has finished it always proves quite a change!
To be fair the standard this year is way down on normal, the players for some reason seem very nervy.
GB's A team got really pushed by the ladies from Belarus a couple of nights ago but came through.
Our C team - the legendary duo of Appleton & Boyes - won last night having only entered because of a withdrawal. It's great to see them back!
It's interesting from a tactical point of view and after the snooker season has finished it always proves quite a change!
Pool is different though. They dont simply aim for the pocket but at sections of the pocket to cheat angles for the cue ball.
Obviously there are bad misses but its a deceptively different game at the highest level
Yeah I have enjoyed it a lot because of the format but the quality as you say has been below par . Boyes & Appleton just won their QF 9-1 which is absolutely incredible considering Appleton could barely pot a ball yesterday. It's a fun sport overall but even Phil Yates seems to be feeling like us that how can they be missing these balls
Appleton & Boyes won't have been expecting to play so I assume that's why he was a bit rusty, they've not played as a pair on TV for a long time but at their peak there have been few better at the game.
Would be amazing to see them win it.
They just won their semifinal 9-0. What an amazing story .
I watched that and Belarus did really well to fight back from 0-2 to 3-2. In the end their dry breaks was what cost them.
Yes you're quite right, they didn't have the cue power of GB's Shaw & Melling so they had lots of dry breaks and you can't afford them at that level.
Would be incredible if Appleton & Boyes can win it from here, and what a team to be playing in the final - Germany!
To be fair they say form is temporary, class is permanent and they were always going to pose a threat.
The final is 5.30pm (race to 11) on Sky Sports for anyone in the UK who fancies it.
UK Open started today. Trump squeezes through 3-2.
On now Mark Allen v Reanne Evans
Reanne 12 times women's world champion Mark Allen's ex and a daughter together.
John Higgins 147 earlier this afternoon.
Cracking start to the tournament.
On now Mark Allen v Reanne Evans
Reanne 12 times women's world champion Mark Allen's ex and a daughter together.
John Higgins 147 earlier this afternoon.
Cracking start to the tournament.
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It was a good match, not necessarily in terms of quality but certainly with edge and excitement.
But I'm afraid Reanne bottled it! She had a tough red along the bottom cushion which at 2-1 up she really didn't need to take on - especially with the rest of the table being there for the taking.
That miss felt like it was the start of a big turnaround and that turned out to be the case.
Match of the round is tonight with Murphy v Selby in a repeat of the World Final.
I think the open draw is a good feature, do generally prefer the seeded format however it's nice to have a change and this is the only tournament other than the Shootout that's open (ranking event wise).
But I'm afraid Reanne bottled it! She had a tough red along the bottom cushion which at 2-1 up she really didn't need to take on - especially with the rest of the table being there for the taking.
That miss felt like it was the start of a big turnaround and that turned out to be the case.
Match of the round is tonight with Murphy v Selby in a repeat of the World Final.
I think the open draw is a good feature, do generally prefer the seeded format however it's nice to have a change and this is the only tournament other than the Shootout that's open (ranking event wise).
Yeah, I agree. The open draw is a good thing to have as a change but I wouldn't like it to happen at many tournaments as the seeded format - and knowing who plays who next - is my favourite.
The Allen - Evans game was tense and dramatic but the quality was generally quite poor. The commentators / pundits talked as if it was good quality as well but Allen, especially, was way below par and was there for the taking if Evans had played to a high enough standard herself - same with Mann v Trump - but both failed to take advantage.
I thought Evans was out of order not to do the fist pump at the start. There's obviously plenty of animosity felt by both but Allen was professional enough to go through with the expected etiquette of Snooker. And was a lot more dignified about it. As McManus said at the start, with so many on the tour you every so often play against someone you really don't get along with off the table but you both have to behave professional during the match. I thought that was poor by Evans and not the right thing to do in Snooker etiquette.
The thing is I bet Matchroom absolutely loved it. She'll be back as a pundit any moment as well.