What has the fans' protest won us?

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Blaming fans who took a part in a protest for lost games :lol:, aww thats cute.
 

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Opposed to the other thread in the Forum.

We've lost two league games in a row, mainly becuase of our fixture list (thanks to the first protest outside Old Trafford before Liverpool game on May 2). Apart from some media coverage (mainly becuase the game was supposed to be on Sky) and possible points deduction if this happens again... but what has the fans' protest actually won us?

Wny not boycott the Europa League final if this is the way people want to protest?
3 Points to Liverpool, that was the whole purpose.
 

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Will the protestors also protest when Saudis try to buy the club?
 

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Being completely honest I am frustrated that nothing has been done for years by the fans. Then once we are finally looking on the up since Fergie retired the fans decide to rally up. The fixture pile up caused has been to the detriment of the team, not the Glazers.

Couldn’t they have done this whilst LVG was in charge?
 

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Being completely honest I am frustrated that nothing has been done for years by the fans. Then once we are finally looking on the up since Fergie retired the fans decide to rally up. The fixture pile up caused has been to the detriment of the team, not the Glazers.

Couldn’t they have done this whilst LVG was in charge?
:lol: What a gripe to have
 

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Reminds me of my friend complaining after she went to an anti-war protest but the war still went ahead
 

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If you just take those two achievements in isolation then I agree with you. However using oles ten year managerial cv or even just his man utd cv then I'd argue there are plenty of limitations. And this is of course with our goals being consistently winning or challenging for the big trophies. Next season is put up or shut up time I think all united fans agree on that.
Agreed. I am backing Ole next season and I think due to whats gone on he will be backed with 2-3 elite players coming in to combat Chelsea Liverpool and City. If this happens and we dont challenge again then it will be time to look elsewhere.
 

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This fans’ protest hasn’t produced regime-toppling results in a fortnight. I want my money back.
 

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Agreed. I am backing Ole next season and I think due to whats gone on he will be backed with 2-3 elite players coming in to combat Chelsea Liverpool and City. If this happens and we dont challenge again then it will be time to look elsewhere.
2-3 elite players is a bit much to expect. He'll have to find a few hidden/less fancied gems and get the job done. No club is giving their team 3 ready made elite players right now. Ole has to get it done with constraints everyone has
 

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I love these fans. I hate the fans that have never seen the club or stadium once and all they do is complain about the players we have after every single loss and how we should be more like Chelsea or Manchester City, doing it from the internet having never felt the heart of old trafford or it’s specific type of players.
 

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Because fans have a blinkered view to things like that. What binds fans together in situations like this is ‘ what is best for the club’ not a social conscience or moral outrage. City’s fans are happy to stay quiet as long as their owners are invested in the club and back the coach. If we had Saudi owners or Pablo Escobar I doubt if there’d be mass protests if they were backing the club. It’s a cynical view but I don’t have the faith in people
 

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Because fans have a blinkered view to things like that. What binds fans together in situations like this is ‘ what is best for the club’ not a social conscience or moral outrage. City’s fans are happy to stay quiet as long as their owners are invested in the club and back the coach. If we had Saudi owners or Pablo Escobar I doubt if there’d be mass protests if they were backing the club. It’s a cynical view but I don’t have the faith in people
Alright. Thanks. Don't care.

Let's see you protest when the Arabs come before showing us your cynicism forwards fans who actually make an effort.
 

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feck all, the amount of money we have spent I would only put Bruno, Luke and Harry as money well spent since the departure of Fergie. AWB is still a work in progress but I am interested to see who Ole brings in for next season.
 

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I love these fans. I hate the fans that have never seen the club or stadium once and all they do is complain about the players we have after every single loss and how we should be more like Chelsea or Manchester City, doing it from the internet having never felt the heart of old trafford or it’s specific type of players.
We’ve long since moved away from the club being connected too and an integral part of the community.

You can blame it on going public or global commercialisation but it was always going to happen. When SAF took over he knew the vast potential of what was a sleeping giant. We already had an enormous global fan base, self generated income, that word ‘heritage’. Once we tapped that, it took off and Utd commercially were quite happy to exploit it
 

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He’s right though. Are you going to protest if the Saudis come sniffing round? Did Newcastle fans?
I didn't even protest against the glazers. I did buy a share from must as a token effort in 2005 when I was 20. Would do the same now.

Then again I don't claim to be here sitting in India an equal of fans who put their necks on the line to raise their voice for the club.

And finally this is classic deviation tactics from lazy fecks who want to make a point, trot off and do feck all themselves. The glazers have run off with a billion of the club's money and are running us poorly. And fans standing up against that deserve our support and respect.

Not "butttt what if it were Saudis huh huh??"
 

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I didn't even protest against the glazers. I did buy a share from must as a token effort in 2005 when I was 20. Would do the same now.

Then again I don't claim to be here sitting in India an equal of fans who put their necks on the line to raise their voice for the club.

And finally this is classic deviation tactics from lazy fecks who want to make a point, trot off and do feck all themselves. The glazers have run off with a billion of the club's money and are running us poorly. And fans standing up against that deserve our support and respect.

Not "butttt what if it were Saudis huh huh??"
That’s all very good but doesn’t make him any less right.
 

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If plenty of money is made available to buy players and yet those players are not capable of stepping up then that is not the fault of the owners surely?
We are now putting plenty of money into securing elite teenage talent to save us long term and that has to be to the club’s benefit.
If we have good scouts then why is it so hard to identify 22-24yo players that are future really top footballers? I really cannot imagine that playing in the best league in the world and for the best club in the world as a hard sell to a player who wants to reach the top.
 

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This is what annoys me. You are an example of the people who are doing these protests saying it is for the good of the club yet who will turn around and accept blood money from the Saudis because it means we can buy who were want and be another City
No I’m not ‘an example’. Nor do I want Saudis or anyone else similar to plasticise us. I want my club back.

So should you.

Or maybe go and support City/Chelsea and stop undermining a movement with the clubs best interests at heart.

It is idiotic threads like this, and moronic contributions which are aimed at keeping the Glazers in that are doing the real damage.
 

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We’ve long since moved away from the club being connected too and an integral part of the community.

You can blame it on going public or global commercialisation but it was always going to happen. When SAF took over he knew the vast potential of what was a sleeping giant. We already had an enormous global fan base, self generated income, that word ‘heritage’. Once we tapped that, it took off and Utd commercially were quite happy to exploit it
As shit as a player like Mctominay maybe - I love watching a manager like SAF or someone else give these players a chance before eventually making their own decision Whether they are good enough or not. We have only ever won 3 CL’s in our time and each one has had a United squad ethos that has been beautiful to watch, either we build something from our youngster like La Masia or to add to it we add players from the local national teams to feel that dedication from every slide tackle. All we have is fans crying about every single player being some sort of deadwood or flop until they turn the corner like Shaw or even wan bissaka to people giving up on rashford.

what I enjoy about following United, it’s not about success because I personally think success wise we are a very overrated team.
some fans are happy to give this up for pure more success, some of these fans wants to trade everything to turn us to the next city or Chelsea- clubs with no history and chase just success.

I don’t find that’s why I follow football or Manchester United. United is a much more beautiful team than that.

However as you have said, we have gotten big, fashionable worldwide for too long now we just have to deal with t consequences of these fans begging us to be more like the other clubs who are not what I want to follow.
 

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Or intact, right. Or at all relevant to this thread. There's a Saudi thread for you guys to have blast with hypotheticals in.
Apologies if it bothers you that a thread about what protests have achieved might stray onto a discussion about what these protests are hoping to achieve.

I personally couldn’t give less of a shit about the two games we lost but am definitely curious about what the end game of these protests is supposed to be. I didn’t realise this thread was going to be this rigorously policed so I’ll bow out and leave you to it.
 

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This seems so knee jerk. Ole has done as well as any other manager could have done with the current squad this season. It's been a shit week, but hardly surprising we've lost both those games.
70 points in 36 matches, less than 2 points per match. Knocked out of UCL in group stage.

It isn’t particularly well, just barely acceptable though better than last season.
 

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This is what annoys me. You are an example of the people who are doing these protests saying it is for the good of the club yet who will turn around and accept blood money from the Saudis because it means we can buy who were want and be another City
But then why is the business partnership between SA and United ok? Like I asked previously is it ok to work with them but not be owned by them? https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/manchester-united-agree-strategic-partnership-in-saudi-arabia

Or Arsenal and their sponsorship by the UAE - Why isnt that a problem?

Glorious Goodwood is now called Qatar Goodwood, F1 is in the Middle East, the Joshua fight is going to be in the middle east, the UK has so many possitive links to the ME. I just dont understand the human rights angle on owners. So for me, the issue is "We dont want our club run by a country" which is very noble but seriously United wouldnt want that?

btw I dont think being run by a country gives you an advantage, you can spend what FFP says, and City have always had money but the manager has made the difference.
 
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It’s done a lot. It’s got the owners pretending to care about fans. It’s motivated political figures. It’s been joined by the likes of Gary Neville. It will go on as Roy Keane said. Some incidental benefits; it seems to have flushed out the shills and plastics in the Caf.
 

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It’s done a lot. It’s got the owners pretending to care about fans. It’s motivated political figures. It’s been joined by the likes of Gary Neville. It will go on as Roy Keane said. Some incidental benefits; it seems to have flushed out the shills and plastics in the Caf.
Agree. And who is to say it's over? That was a protest. There can be many more.
 

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Rupert Murdoch buying the club in 98/99 would have brought the club untold riches.

Most United fans opposed that.

This is about more than money spent on transfers for those protesting.
 

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Without the protests we would be in the 25 year Super League and British and European football would've been destroyed by the greedy Americans.
 

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Alright. Thanks. Don't care.

Let's see you protest when the Arabs come before showing us your cynicism forwards fans who actually make an effort.
Whether I protest or not. You won’t be around to see me. I’ve long since given up my season ticket and membership after 40 years of going home and away. And I’ve probably made more of an effort than most. If you care to put your self righteous cards on the table and show us what you’ve done personally, I’ll take my hat off to you.

PS I know quite a few fans who protested on Thursday and I’ve stood with them protesting at the Glazers in previous years