Comparing Berbatov to Martial is very disrespectful to the Bulgarian.
Martial agent looking for a new club for him
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Agree with people that are bringing up his numbers in the season before last. There is obvious quality there and he's a 20+ goal striker.
Having said that, with our squad make-up looking how it is today he has to be in that camp of players that would be considered as available for the right price. I dont know what we'd be able to get for him right now though. He looks great as a makeweight in a deal, but Dortmund won't take his salary, Spurs will want cash for Kane, but who knows what else we are working on.
Failing that, unless someone comes in with a nice offer we are better off keeping him. It's highly likely that we'll reach a point in this season where he'll come in useful, and he has the quality to get himself back as a first choice player if he finds his best form.
Having said that, with our squad make-up looking how it is today he has to be in that camp of players that would be considered as available for the right price. I dont know what we'd be able to get for him right now though. He looks great as a makeweight in a deal, but Dortmund won't take his salary, Spurs will want cash for Kane, but who knows what else we are working on.
Failing that, unless someone comes in with a nice offer we are better off keeping him. It's highly likely that we'll reach a point in this season where he'll come in useful, and he has the quality to get himself back as a first choice player if he finds his best form.
Ole says he is looking for a striker, which can only mean Martial is to be sold. I don't expect any expensive replacement, but rather a back-up striker more similar to Cavani.
Not really, Martial has a similar/better scoring rate despite spending half his career here on the wing. I’d wager that his big game record is much better too.
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He’s clearly got a lot of talent, which makes is what makes him so frustrating. Just hasn’t worked out, for whatever reason
Or the fact that you can look up on any internet site and see the figures??
13% of income generated last season was from match day across all teams...
Just do a bit of research, it isn't hard.
How so?
Martial has been given one chance to play a full season as the main striker for us and he scored more than Berbatov in his best ever season for United whilst being a lot younger. Also in that season he offered far more outside of goals.
I don’t subscribe to nothing that isn’t successful. So saying a man doesn’t work with our crap style of play and unsuccessful trophy cabinet is peeing in the wind to me. Especially when Big Rom is out here winning… Sold because he doesn’t suit our style but yet you speak about Cavani who plays exactly the same as Rom.
Absolute carnage. New DoF I hope you have some sense.
did you just say Cavani and Lukaku play the same way?
His talent is undeniable, but his work rate and ethic, especially his half-hearted scoffs when he loses the ball, instead of fighting to get it back, have led him to be a second choice here, and it won't get better for him anywhere if he doesn't change his attitude.
Pretty sure he did. His post needs a trip to Specsavers
Berbatov was the league top scorer in one season for us.
Martial's talent is way overrated anyway, in my opinion. Good but nothing exceptional.
Just a rumour, take with a huge pinch of salt
richarlison is being considered for RWF. Replacement for Martial. Sancho will still go ahead but can play both sides
richarlison is being considered for RWF. Replacement for Martial. Sancho will still go ahead but can play both sides
Cavani is second to none in finding space and I actually liked how Jose put it recently, that Cavani was our best defender. There is no other player I would really compare him to. He makes his teammates better.
doesn’t he play on the left?
left sided forwards are 10 a penny, we already have a few. Did see a rumour (maybe too obvious), that Barca are now after him.
i like him, and think he can make a step up - but it’s an area in which we already have strength.
Yeah and while it was a good achievement, it’s certainly not disrespectful to compare the two.
When Martial does the same for us we can compare.
He's too lazy to move.
Non starter.
Non starter.
Hopefully just a rumour as he's shit.
Martial + 60m for Kane plz
I honestly thought last season was going to be a bit of a break out season for Martial but it was just more of the same unfortunately. He's one of those players that I'd always be reluctant to get rid of because if he can ever get everything in order then he could be serious player but it does feel like we're getting to the point where it might be better for both parties to try something new.
I like him too and he can play both sides, have seen him on the RW and down the middle. Actually think he’s similar in many ways to martial just a bit more hardy
We knew what we got when we signed him. Very talented but had a disciplinary issues with Monaco if I remember correctly, it's clear that he was never a very motivated player. After almost 6 years of being here I think it's fair to say we've given him enough time and he's always had problems motivating himself, same old problem. On his days he's very good but his low is bad, not quite the 29 y.o Rooney's bad but even back then we didn't tolerate Rooney. I have also seen posts criticizing Nani back then to be such a hot and cold player. We can't have a main striker that is hot and cold. Ole made a right decision to sign Cavani, he knows his stuffs when it comes into CF.
Tevez, Suarez, Cavani etc are all great at the basic things; closing people down, getting into the 6 yard box, chasing lost causes. Martial is as talented as anyone but he does not do the basic things well. These basic things are the main prerequisite for a top player. I don't think he will change. He is spoiled and lazy. I would love to see him at his very best but I don't think he will ever do it consistently. He is a bad example to those around him and Utd would probably be better to get rid sooner than later.
Tevez was sold after his second season because that was literally all he could do.
He was on a loan deal from his 3rd party ownership. He was not sold. The loan deal finished.
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Like it or not, it’s a valid comparison currently, and not to dismiss Berbatov’s achievement but he scored almost half of his league goals that season in three games. Just like Martial, he was largely inconsistent and his season culminated in him being left out of the squad for the champions league final for Michael fecking Owen. He was also often accused of laziness and sulking, just like Martial, on the Caf and I’m the media. So let’s not pretend it’s a disrespectful comparison just because it’s the in thing to shit on Martial right now.
You can compare them but Berbatov will always come better though, not because Berbatov himself was just great (we all know this signing had its up and down and didn't live up to its hype), but the reality is Martial has done nothing of note so far in his United career. Few good moments here and there but overall nothing worthy.
Let him go.
Very talented player, and his debut goal against Liverpool was one of my favourites. However, he's been very disappointing overall. Very inconsistent and does not respond well to pressure and adversity.
I wish him good fortune in the years to come.
Very talented player, and his debut goal against Liverpool was one of my favourites. However, he's been very disappointing overall. Very inconsistent and does not respond well to pressure and adversity.
I wish him good fortune in the years to come.
My problem with Berbatov is that he lacks of movement and too static, and also lazy. Even Rio Ferdinand also called out something similar. That’s literally what people are moaning about Martial.
Any chance giggs will come back to bail us out or vice versa?
Martial is going to be sick next season. It’s 50 50 and the glass is half full.
Martial is going to be sick next season. It’s 50 50 and the glass is half full.
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100% agree.
The Bulgarian legend surely got one thing though, vision and genius footballing brain.
Martial, seems to lack in that department, making Berbatov a better player and a better striker in general.
It's a pity if Martial leaves without reaching his potential. He reminds me of Anderson, great talent but unfilled talent.
In Martials cases, he's a typical player that we will be talking about in year's to come and say he could have been. He lacks the critical components need to be able to play as a number nine, movement and anticipation. I'm sure in years to come, he has regrets, but we can't keep waiting for him to get to the next level, sadly it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
In Martials cases, he's a typical player that we will be talking about in year's to come and say he could have been. He lacks the critical components need to be able to play as a number nine, movement and anticipation. I'm sure in years to come, he has regrets, but we can't keep waiting for him to get to the next level, sadly it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
Thing is people say that Martial is the best finisher after Greenwood, but this season was an eye opener.
He did progressed as a player, from one trick finishing pony (right foot far side curler), to quick footed no.9.
But when he did transformed himself to a no.9, he seems to lose his composure in front of goal. It is probably a mental thing, some players just couldn't bear the pressure of being the main man.
People forget that the exact criticisms people have about Martial were said about Berbatov. Funny enough, he was also compared to a poacher type of striker in Chicha. And what's even more funny is that as soon as Welbeck came into the picture, people then moaned about Chicha when comparing him to Welbeck, who eventually fell out of favor too.
I hope this rumor is true, he obviously does not want to be here, just look at his facial expressions and his body language. I also hope that he finds a team that he actually wants to stay put with.
Finding a replacement should be very easy by the way, just find someone who puts in little to no effort every game.
Finding a replacement should be very easy by the way, just find someone who puts in little to no effort every game.
He can feck off to Dortmund as part of the Haaland deal. 