Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

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Now we are accusing him of faking injury? Some of you are unbelievable.
Check his injury records especially every tournament year.

I was amazed he played as much for us this season TBH.

Even a bad haircut would probably mean six weeks out if it's his final season
 

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We might finally be going into season with a starting 11 that has no real holes in it, to now lose Pogba would just feel like a potential missed opportunity, he can maybe only be a consistant top player when he is surrounded by other top players, and when there something to really play for, I don't know if that is true, I just want to see it given a chance.

All I know for sure is that he is an extremelly talented midfielder, which we find very difficult for us to get hold of, so I'd keep him for a season where our squad looks as good as it has since Fergie left, also as our links to replacements seem far fetched, and the fee we might get for him pretty limited.
Well the options aren't great. Reward him for very inconsistent performances with a mega deal he won't dream of getting elsewhere (north of the supposed 290k a week we're already paying him) and hope we can make it work tactically, use him for the season for the price of 14m in wages and miss out on potential 50m sale and see him leave on a free for the 2nd time, or sell him now and save that 14m and make another 50m going straight back into building a coherent team. The last option seems to me to be by far the most sensible one.

I also wouldn't describe the team as a finally worthy 11. I think our midfield is a major issue, AWB is still getting up to speed, we have GK issues, but up front, on paper, we look very good. The consistent performers are a mix of Bruno, Shaw, Maguire, Greenwood and Cavani.

It is a popular take.

The vibe at the club has been a bit unstable. There was a glut of supposed talent coming in under Mou but it was a house of cards and all turned to crap really.

If Pogba was just coming to the club now, imagining that Varane ends up here as well, he might feel more positive and we might see more of his quality. As it is, half his career has passed while the club slowly transitions back to what it was in SAF days. It’s coming, but his experience here must make him doubt whether it’s worth waiting. He doesn’t have the personality to positively influence and hasten the development of the club, the squad, the team. He’s supremely talented but he lacks Bruno’s drive; he lacks the qualities that we have needed so much these last few years; he is not a “United” player in my mind.

He would have done much better at a team already established at the top. He’s good enough to get into the top teams but not good enough to turn a “nearly” team into winners.
I had the same blinkers on as Jose did. I really thought Pogba would evolve into a box to box dominator, akin to Toure. Jose defended him to the hilt for the first 18 months and persisted with making it work in a double pivot when it really wasn't coming off. That goal he set up for Lingard against Arsenal was Yaya-esque. Remember Jose saying after the match no other player in the league can do that. And I agree. But the mentality is so far from his ability that he's a tactical conundrum.

I agree that he works really well in a team where he is not required to fight for the team consistently, isn't relied upon as a leader and just allowed to do his thing. The most talented player we've had since Cristiano, but nowhere near the same application.
 

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For me he's been one of the most disappointing signings ever. It's turned out a bit like the Veron transfer.
It was always going to end badly with the way he left, the crazy transfer fee.

He did okay at Juventus surrounded by great players and he was able to make 2 or 3 good to key passes a game.

BUt in the Premiership he does that 5 games a season only and even then not always key to us winning.

Bruno's impact is what Pogba's should have been.
 

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I really wish we would just sell him, an I'm a Pogba fan on the whole. He hasn't ever really done it for us on a regular basis, his agent is a scumbag and it's so unbecoming for us to be trying to cling on to a player who has so often shown disloyalty through his agent. I know many try and separate Mino and Paul, but for me Mino is just an employee of Paul. Anything he says that Paul doesn't come out and correct Mays we'll come from the horse's mouth.
 

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I will be delighted if we manage to sell him this summer and re-invest the money in a proper defensive minded player.

I'm a Pogba fan but the baggage that comes with him is just not worth it anymore.

Watch him tear up the Ligue 1 and redcafe lose its shit everytime he does skills in a PsG shirt against bang average teams.
 

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Not wanted by Utd fans and not wanted by PSG fans. Pogba has surely done himself proud here.

Absolutely crazy to think this guy was supposed to be the second coming of Christ when he came back. How wrong we were.
 

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Turns out if you have a foot out the door wherever you are, you belong to nowhere. He had a chance to be beloved here, if only he did not act a twat and put together at least one consistent season. However, with Pogba, everything else comes before performances.
 

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Not wanted by Utd fans and not wanted by PSG fans. Pogba has surely done himself proud here.

Absolutely crazy to think this guy was supposed to be the second coming of Christ when he came back. How wrong we were.
I’d love to keep him. Had a blinder of a tournament
 

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Smacks of Pogba running down his contract to join another club to be honest. Every time his contract ran out he would join Juventus.
 

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What do you call an injury prone player who turns up to one game in 6 when he is fit? A total mediocrity. Bye Paul
 

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Smacks of Pogba running down his contract to join another club to be honest. Every time his contract ran out he would join Juventus.
He could join Man City at this point for all I care. Never seen so much fuss over such little and inconsistent value.
 

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Bruno's impact is what Pogba's should have been.
I hate to be THAT guy, but Bruno has been largely irrelevant for us for a period of time now. Masked by a penalty here and there.
Is that all it would take for you lot to say Pogba has been great? A penalty here and there?
 

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What Ole said is the universal truth. He's just very good at paraphrasing it. There is always a drama surrounding Pogba.
 

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Pogba isn't important to our first team.

Minutes with and without him in the league last season:

MinutesGFGAminutes per GFminutes per GA
With Pogba1897352654.273
Without Pogba152338184084.6

McFred helps Shaw/AWB to push higher up the flanks, and give Bruno more freedom to get in and around the box.

Pogba gives you more individualistic gif-worthy moments. But Manchester United are a better team without him.
Hard to argue against those numbers.
 

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I hate to be THAT guy, but Bruno has been largely irrelevant for us for a period of time now. Masked by a penalty here and there.
Is that all it would take for you lot to say Pogba has been great? A penalty here and there?
Well, only if did was scoring penalty here and there.

But, what about assists, work rate, tackling, key passes, chance creating, etc you know to consider someone's impact.

I mean Pogba was not exactly even a good penalty taker for us...
 

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As i said earlier in this thread

He ended up being deployed on the left in the last part of the season, and he didnt set the world on fire from there

He isnt indispensable on the center of the field, and he isnt indespensable on the left. So yeah, goodbye
 

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Couldn't car less. I can count on probably one hand the amount of good games he's had for us. He always seemed to be injured when the big games came around.
Look, there are legitimate criticisms of Pogba and being happy to see the back of him isn't an unreasonable opinion at this stage, but to suggest he's only had a handful of good games for us is ridiculous. He's had more good games than bad games here, and whether you think that's good enough or not, its not a reason to rewrite the narrative completely.
 

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Look, there are legitimate criticisms of Pogba and being happy to see the back of him isn't an unreasonable opinion at this stage, but to suggest he's only had a handful of good games for us is ridiculous. He's had more good games than bad games here, and whether you think that's good enough or not, its not a reason to rewrite the narrative completely.
No need to debate, when people hate him, they hate him.

Just wait and see if he leave or not. If he signed a new contract, let's back him up.
 

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He's a hard one to fathom isn't he, because all of his peers apparently love him and yet on (in terms of tactical awareness) and off the pitch he really does come across as a fecking idiot
You hang out with him off the pitch do you?
It's tiring reading the tripe on hear from you lot

He will feign injury, he will down tools, he should tell his agent to shut up blah blah blah.

How many of you here will go to the companies you work for and negotiate a lower salary however good or bad people think you are.

And to be honest it's not like if Pogba doesn't get the money it goes the club to do something else, the glazers line their pocket with it.

Worry about the like of Phil Jones taken money for nothing.

The guy came out last season and said he'd rather keep quiet and just play football and does what he did.

If you don't like him as a player fine but just stop with the BS making up nonsense to make yourselves feel better
 

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Pogba isn't important to our first team.

Minutes with and without him in the league last season:

MinutesGFGAminutes per GFminutes per GA
With Pogba1897352654.273
Without Pogba152338184084.6

McFred helps Shaw/AWB to push higher up the flanks, and give Bruno more freedom to get in and around the box.

Pogba gives you more individualistic gif-worthy moments. But Manchester United are a better team without him.
He's caught in possession, resulting in giving ball away, far too often. For United at least. Maybe that changes if we improve the team, and certainly he plays more against the better teams.
 

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Not wanted by Utd fans and not wanted by PSG fans. Pogba has surely done himself proud here.

Absolutely crazy to think this guy was supposed to be the second coming of Christ when he came back. How wrong we were.
You forgot the Madrid fans and:

For example we'll buy Griezmann for £100m and they agree on a one year loan + £100m for Pogba.
Yesterday I was joking with a Barca mate about this.

He told me we could buy Griezmann for £80m. And we can keep the £20m just for keeping Pogba away from them...
I have a mate who is a Juve fan and he said yeah we'd want him back but we don't have the money, maybe on a free again. Feck him.
 

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He's caught in possession, resulting in giving ball away, far too often. For United at least. Maybe that changes if we improve the team, and certainly he plays more against the better teams.
Did you watch France v Switzerland in the Euros? It's impossible to improve France talent-wise, yet he still got caught in possession as much as he does here.
 

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Veron was actually decent in his last season and helped us won the league. He's a better signing than Pogba
Yeap... and had a quiet, professional agent.

I always thought it was a mistake by Fergie in letting him go. He offered us a different approach to playing.
 

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Yeap... and had a quiet, professional agent.

I always thought it was a mistake by Fergie in letting him go. He offered us a different approach to playing.
I always thought Veron type of player was a few season too early for United. He'd be a monster of a player in this current United squad.
 

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You hang out with him off the pitch do you?
It's tiring reading the tripe on hear from you lot

He will feign injury, he will down tools, he should tell his agent to shut up blah blah blah.

How many of you here will go to the companies you work for and negotiate a lower salary however good or bad people think you are.

And to be honest it's not like if Pogba doesn't get the money it goes the club to do something else, the glazers line their pocket with it.


Worry about the like of Phil Jones taken money for nothing.

The guy came out last season and said he'd rather keep quiet and just play football and does what he did.

If you don't like him as a player fine but just stop with the BS making up nonsense to make yourselves feel better

Everyone here would be fired from their jobs if they performed as Pogba has earning what he already earns. Not forgetting the fact that they are letting the whole world know that they are looking for a different employer through their spokesperson.

The Glazers have spent the money, blame it on Woody for not signing the right players or extending contracts of players he should have let go a long time back. As for them pocketing the money, they own it and no matter if we like it or not, they do have the right to take money out of their business like all business people do.