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The two you mentioned seem to be a lot of people's choices along with Bissouma maybe. I don't know of any Kante (or younger Matic) types out there so yeah I think it is slim pickings. Those three and Neves would in my eyes all improve us though as I really don't rate our midfield that highly.Who is a stellar DM for us this summer? Ideally someone like Ndidi would be perfect, but it's not happening and even Rice looks to be priced out of a move. Someone like Neves does indeed look like probably the best out of limited set of options.
Same for me. He'd be a good partner for Fred or McTominay, and offers what they don't.Tweet
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He wouldn't be in my top 5 wanted DM/holding MF's but if his price is fair then I could warm to the idea.
Most of the holding mids I'd hope we'd go for wouldn't be cheap at all given their importance to their sides (Ndidi, Rice, Camavinga, Kessie, Gravenberch, Koopmeiners, Goretzka etc)
Seems a decent player who's solid technically with a good passing range. Only worry I have is if our midfield will get run over.Neves will blow your socks off when you see him, he does the simple and dirty work with ease, just gets on with his job, latest I’ve heard is he’s turned Arsenal down, I’m hoping it’s to stay with us but fear he’s waiting for you
We need somebody to pass the ball to our attacker players.. from midfield... When we play Mcfred, we don't have that.. hence we keep playing Pogba there.. Neves would be better than Mcfred in passing, and we will play Neves and Fred/Mct on the CM if this goes through..People keep saying he's loads better in possession than McTominay and Fred but nothing in the stats backs that up. What is it specifically that is so much better or is that just underrating our own players?
He's a guy at Wolves who is mid 20s, he's not been spectacular hence why they are by all accounts happy to sell for a relatively acceptable sum of money. Not a key figure for his national side either.
Not saying he's a bad player but there's nothing that jumps out as a massive improvement in our possession play. If people want to argue he can be a stable figure that sits and defends in a way McT is not suited to, and that doesn't suit Fred's energetic style that's one thing but I don't get this made up stuff just because he hits a few long passes. Pogba does that as well, it's not a fundamental part of why we're bad in the buildup.
I'm just going by my eyes and the seeing the mistakes Fred and Mctominay make often when making simple passes, never mind long passes. It is true I watch them two more carefully of course but I don't rate them highly myself, nothing personal against them.People keep saying he's loads better in possession than McTominay and Fred but nothing in the stats backs that up. What is it specifically that is so much better or is that just underrating our own players?
He's a guy at Wolves who is mid 20s, he's not been spectacular hence why they are by all accounts happy to sell for a relatively acceptable sum of money. Not a key figure for his national side either.
Not saying he's a bad player but there's nothing that jumps out as a massive improvement in our possession play. If people want to argue he can be a stable figure that sits and defends in a way McT is not suited to, and that doesn't suit Fred's energetic style that's one thing but I don't get this made up stuff just because he hits a few long passes. Pogba does that as well, it's not a fundamental part of why we're bad in the buildup.
I'm not entirely convinced Pogba will be here next season so we'll likely play one of McTominay or Fred regardless.Neves, Bruno, Pogba simply wouldn't work though? If you sign Neves, realistically unless we brought someone else in you'd still have to to play one of McFred.
Can't see City selling us Grealish.Tuanzebe straight swap I think considering the window we’ve had.
Pogba must go and Martial too, then just get grealish in.
Agreed, Although realistically can only see that midfield being played against bottom half teams. We'd probably still have to play a double pivot of Fred/Neves in the bigger games. Which in itself is not that bad as Neves has excellent long passing range and accuracy. Can be the start of our counters hitting Rashford/Sancho/Greenwood on the break. I would be all for this signing tbh and would be a solid end to an excellent transfer window.I can't believe some people are turning their nose up at this guy,
For 35-40m what better options is there available currently ? 24 years old btw so not even close to his peak yet, I think he has another gear and with better players around him would be even better,
I think he's not the Hero people want which was probably the same with Michael Carrick when he was signed but he'd end up being the Hero we need.
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They don't make anywhere near as many mistakes as you are claiming according to the numbers. Neves also makes mistakes, they are represented by the times they give the ball away, quite simply. Neves does that as well, at a comparable rate. Maybe he's more progressive, that would have to be the argument but that also isn't clear.I'm just going by my eyes and the seeing the mistakes Fred and Mctominay make often when making simple passes, never mind long passes. It is true I watch them two more carefully of course but I don't rate them highly myself, nothing personal against them.
Neves certainly has better tackling and interception stats than those two so defensively he would be an improvement for sure and he is only Scott's age, so both have time to improve further.
Price is important though and the rumoured price is attractive, also for all we know he wants out of Wolves and not the other way around...just speculating of course.
Hardly, this looks like Everton and not United. Neves would obviously come in as a reserve and tactical player, not a starter. No team wins the league or CL wity these three as the central «trio».Neves - Fred
Bruno
would be very nice.
Vastly underrated outside of wolves supporters, Id love this to happen.Neves will blow your socks off when you see him, he does the simple and dirty work with ease, just gets on with his job, latest I’ve heard is he’s turned Arsenal down, I’m hoping it’s to stay with us but fear he’s waiting for you
I’m a big fan and I’d love to have him as an option for our midfield. The price is right, he ticks the boxes, and he is premier league proven so i hope it happens.Neves will blow your socks off when you see him, he does the simple and dirty work with ease, just gets on with his job, latest I’ve heard is he’s turned Arsenal down, I’m hoping it’s to stay with us but fear he’s waiting for you
They don't make anywhere near as many mistakes as you are claiming according to the numbers. Neves also makes mistakes, they are represented by the times they give the ball away, quite simply. Neves does that as well, at a comparable rate. Maybe he's more progressive, that would have to be the argument but that also isn't clear.
I don't think he's as good as people are claiming. It's okay saying he's available for 35 million so buy him, but that by itself isn't reason to rush out and get him unless he's top quality.
Player | Club | Mins Per Unsuccessful Touch | Mins Per Dispossessed |
|---|---|---|---|
Scott McTominay | Manchester United | 55.3 | 120.4 |
Fred | Manchester United | 84.3 | 75.9 |
Rúben Neves | Wolverhampton Wanderers | 100.4 | 163.2 |
I think against City, Liverpool, etc yeah you would play Fred or McT to add a bit more bite and aggression in midfield - but against lesser teams I don't think you need to - especially with Varane and Maguire in defence.Neves, Bruno, Pogba simply wouldn't work though? If you sign Neves, realistically unless we brought someone else in you'd still have to to play one of McFred.
Case closed.
Depends what you quantify as comparable ultimately. But given Neves is better than both players in both categories i'd say it's not overly close.
Would he make the step up? How would he be in a double pivot with Fred?Neves will blow your socks off when you see him, he does the simple and dirty work with ease, just gets on with his job, latest I’ve heard is he’s turned Arsenal down, I’m hoping it’s to stay with us but fear he’s waiting for you
For a start Neves would be the deepest player shielding the defense with Fred playing a little further forward. That pushes away Fred from the danger area. The one weakness that partnership would have is aerially neither are good, Fred is woeful in the air (one of the worst in Europe) while Neves is average. It would need one of our CBs to push a little higher up and help defend high balls from the oppositions defense/goalkeeper imo. Passing wise Fred and Neves would be decent as Neves is a huge upgrade on McTominay.Would he make the step up? How would he be in a double pivot with Fred?
Interesting, I’m keen then, stick him next to Mctominay if we need aerial support. We need a proper passer from the back who can break the lines, and obviously he’s class at long passing.For a start Neves would be the deepest player shielding the defense with Fred playing a little further forward. That pushes away Fred from the danger area. The one weakness that partnership would have is aerially neither are good, Fred is woeful in the air (one of the worst in Europe) while Neves is average. It would need one of our CBs to push a little higher up and help defend high balls from the oppositions defense/goalkeeper imo. Passing wise Fred and Neves would be decent as Neves is a huge upgrade on McTominay.
Neves is basically a very solid midfielder across the board. It'd be a decent upgrade for a relatively low price if you believe the papers at least.
