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Barca had Neymar Suarez and Messi in their primes and they won 1 cl. Ridiculous that people are thinking this is an automatic CL win for PSG.
Same thing happens every season when Chelsea signed Havertz / Werner heard the same thing. The best teams often win the champions league not the best individual players. Messi is not the same Messi as seen with his prime at Barcelona he's a player eventually on his way out likewise Ronaldo.
 

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Oh really? That's pretty amazing, basically natives pronoucing all the words in the dictionary. It's also interesting if you wonder how to pronounce some players names.
Yeah, brilliant - have to check out it some more.

Merci beaucoup pour...this (le lien? something like that).
 

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On paper that team is literally ridiculous. World class starting 11. Possibly the best players in every position give or take.

also the messi reveal has made grealishes unveiling look even more desperate:nervous: what a welcome. That’s a real superstar of the game.
 

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Then Declan Rice put a 11/10 performance and destroy them all. But really though the team, while it looks amazing on paper, it lacks work rate and we dont even know if it'll be cohesive. It surely works on FIFA. But actual players have ego, this team especially need a strong manager since their star additions only add more egos to the team, I dont think Poch has that.

I have read about the same stuffs about PSG winning CL and destroying teams left and right after they signed Mbappe + Neymar. Not to mention Veratti was at his peak, Cavani was still there, Thiago Silva was still there, then they added Alves. It didnt happen, they were only the kings of Ligue 1. The team back then was almost as impressive as the current one, with fresher legs. But alas it was only trully invicible in video games. On top of that they didnt even win Ligue 1 last season. So much for Mbappe and Neymar. Those two should be enough if football is only about firepower, its not.

I could give you another example. Remember Barca's fantastic four? what did they achieve?
PSG have been to the final and have that experience on how to get there now. Ramos, Messi and wijnaldum have won the trophy before. Due to the weakness of the french league, PSG should in theory be able to rest Messi or ensure hes in peak condition for CL ties. Plus they have recruited well his summer.

I completely get what your saying about workrate off the the ball. Thats where Poch needs to earn his money and come up with a sysyem that protects the defence but also allows the forwards to flourish.
 

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On paper that team is literally ridiculous. World class starting 11. Possibly the best players in every position give or take.

also the messi reveal has made grealishes unveiling look even more desperate:nervous: what a welcome. That’s a real superstar of the game.
Bit harsh on Grealish here?! :lol:
 

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Same thing happens every season when Chelsea signed Havertz / Werner heard the same thing. The best teams often win the champions league not the best individual players. Messi is not the same Messi as seen with his prime at Barcelona he's a player eventually on his way out likewise Ronaldo.
Not the best of examples to use there :D:D
 

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Same thing happens every season when Chelsea signed Havertz / Werner heard the same thing. The best teams often win the champions league not the best individual players. Messi is not the same Messi as seen with his prime at Barcelona he's a player eventually on his way out likewise Ronaldo.
Yes, and subsequently what happened?
 

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Where would you prefer him to go? City (won 3 league titles in the last four years)? Bayern (won 9 league titles in a row)? Juve (won 9 league titles in the last 10 years)?
It’s not that he’s going to PSG that bothers me. It’s that he’s walking away from the club which enabled him to become the global icon that he is today.

Does anyone here seriously believe that had Messi joined PSG, City or even Bayern — or even United — at the age of 12 that he would have developed into the GOAT that he is today? Not a fecking chance.

Messi has done so much for Barcelona, clearly, but is it not the case that Barcelona has done even more for Messi?
 

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It’s not that he’s going to PSG that bothers me. It’s that he’s walking away from the club which en
abled him to become the global icon that he is today.

Does anyone here seriously believe that had Messi joined PSG, City or even Bayern — or even United — at the age of 12 that he would have developed into the GOAT that he is today? Not a fecking chance.

Messi has done so much for Barcelona, clearly, but is it not the case that Barcelona has done even more for Messi?
Barcelona CANT sign Messi. He's too big for the club, they simply cant afford him, even with a 50% wage cut. There is no legal way to sign Messi and have him play in La Liga.


He isnt walking away from the club, the club simply cant afford to have him.
 

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If they manage to keep Mbappé, they can't not win the CL honestly. Only a serious injury crisis could stop them

They have literally the 3 best players in the world in attack. Nevermind balance, it's their opponents who have to worry about that. Press them high and every time Verratti or Ramos or Marquinhos manages to get the ball out in space to one of those 3, it's a goal. Don't press them high and they don't have to worry about balance and will still carve you open with the combination of Messi-Neymar-Mbappé-Hakimi

Who's their LWB? Bernat?
Their LWB might have to be ADM if Poch wants to play them all :D
 

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Bit harsh on Grealish here?! :lol:
I love grealish, would of loved him here, it’s no diss on him, he’s a top player.. very marketable for city.

just go have a look on blue moon at the grealish thread and you will see exactly what city are trying to do with him.

They want brand grealish to be their very own beckham.

also having a look on villa talk at the grealish thread is very telling. He’s being marketed very differently and very heavily.

the effort is there.. my point is.. with messi they don’t need to push or try anything, he’s messi!
 

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Exactly. Add to that the football fans are so gullible when it comes to what the PR department at clubs publishes, hence why you get the jersey sale myth. Clubs can whitewash every action they make and fans lap it up, especially if it goes through journalist channels. And maybe now it will become some established truth that Messi will increase tourism to Paris by several percent.

What's funny about PSG shirt sales is that their shirt has been a hipster choice for years, regardless of players representing the club. My oldest has bought the jersey the last two years, solely because the shirt design is cool among his friends. Wonder how much that has affected the shirt sales over the years.

On a sidenote it has annoyed me for a while how bad United's PR department is compared to Liverpool (who got every Liverpool-based journo dancing to their tune) and City's (who are the best in the business).

Other than that, congrats on a fantastic signing to top of a legendary transfer summer for you guys. Can understand why he chose PSG both from a financial and sporting view.
This is true. When Jordan starting sponsoring PSG, people who don’t even watch football were falling over themselves to cop a shirt because the design is nice to wear even casually. I can’t lie, I myself am thinking of getting PSG’s away kit of the new season. Would most likely get Messi’s name on it now although I would’ve gotten the shirt even if he hadn’t signed.
 

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Some might think PSG is plastic here but our fans are real :

That looks like something out of a football dystopia. The best player ever signing on to an oil club after leaving his boyhood club because they couldn't afford his wages.
 

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That is one of the many, many great and interesting ways you can insult people in italian, a most noble and great language

Unlike french, which is garbage
 

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This is true. When Jordan starting sponsoring PSG, people who don’t even watch football were falling over themselves to cop a shirt because the design is nice to wear even casually. I can’t lie, I myself am thinking of getting PSG’s away kit of the new season. Would most likely get Messi’s name on it now although I would’ve gotten the shirt even if he hadn’t signed.
Yep. The Jordan collab is dreamy. Smart move by PSG

I’ve not and won’t buy a United top whilst glazers are here and also because I’m not a fan of Adidas or the kit designs but some of the Jordan psg kits have been really nice IMO and if it didn’t feel wrong I’d have brought one.

Don’t blame you
 

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Western countries don’t need to use football clubs as PR machines, they already have fantastic PR in almost every other aspect of human life. That’s why they can bomb other countries to smithereens and take all their resources without anyone seeming to notice or care. That’s why they can talk about this or that country shouldn’t have nuclear weapons when only one country has ever used them in war, and it ain’t Iran (newsflash). But all this is for another thread perhaps………
So Manchester united is just a football club, while PSG is not? you are just confirming my point of view.
 

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They dont need to, they washed their hands of someone`s elses blood, sweat and tears long long time ago but this thread aint for this topic.
Just as I answered the poster above, you are confirming what I just said, Manchester united is a football club, not like PSG, a PR machine for a country/government.
 

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Just as I answered the poster above, you are confirming what I just said, Manchester united is a football club, not like PSG, a PR machine for a country/government.
If you go this way, United is just a cash cow for the Glazers.

A club is not only what the owner is using it for, it's the fans, the players, any person that works there, your take is totally biased.
 

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If you go this way, United is just a cash cow for the Glazers.

A club is not only what the owner is using it for, it's the fans, the players, any person that works there, your take is totally biased.
I would rather the club be a cash cow and go bankrupt, than a PR machine for a government (eastern or western).
 

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Just as I answered the poster above, you are confirming what I just said, Manchester united is a football club, not like PSG, a PR machine for a country/government.
Nope, sadly its a corporation now, where they see you as a customer and not footbal fan, which was proven when local football fans last season went onto pitch, that led to match being cancelled and then section of costumers were really unhappy because their Sunday afternoon was ruined (their own words).
 

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I love grealish, would of loved him here, it’s no diss on him, he’s a top player.. very marketable for city.

just go have a look on blue moon at the grealish thread and you will see exactly what city are trying to do with him.

They want brand grealish to be their very own beckham.

also having a look on villa talk at the grealish thread is very telling. He’s being marketed very differently and very heavily.

the effort is there.. my point is.. with messi they don’t need to push or try anything, he’s messi!
I get what you mean. It remains to be seen whether his play at the highest level can live up to the marketing.
 

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It’s not that he’s going to PSG that bothers me. It’s that he’s walking away from the club which enabled him to become the global icon that he is today.

Does anyone here seriously believe that had Messi joined PSG, City or even Bayern — or even United — at the age of 12 that he would have developed into the GOAT that he is today? Not a fecking chance.

Messi has done so much for Barcelona, clearly, but is it not the case that Barcelona has done even more for Messi?
Barca couldn’t even sign Messi for free if he offered. There was literally nothing that could be done for Messi to remain with Barca outside of accepting a 50 year horrible CVC loan
 

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Any team that plays Hakimi in a back four and has Juan Bernat as their by far best LB does not derserve to win the CL.
 

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What a weird victory lap. :lol:
There's nothing weird in this. A cafer lectured me about the fact that it was impossible for new partners to unlock budgets right after Messi's signing. Still, PSG signed a partership with a south american betting company the very day he's introduced. Probably totally random and unrelated.

I've heard at least 10 sports finance experts on the radio today saying that Messi's salary will be offset by the revenues he generates but I guess it's impossible for an oil plastic club to be good at doing business.
 

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Any team that plays Hakimi in a back four and has Juan Bernat as their by far best LB does not derserve to win the CL.
Hakimi in a back for is fine if you set your team properly (with a more defensive LB).

This is what Bernat is though. Still, he was pretty average in ligue 1 but ofter quite good in the CL. Most PSG fans think that getting him from you for 12M was a steal. Personnally, i'm not a huge fan though, i always thought he was overperforming in the CL but it happened several times (2 goals 2 assists in the CL in 2020, 3 goals the year before).
 

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That looks like something out of a football dystopia. The best player ever signing on to an oil club after leaving his boyhood club because they couldn't afford his wages.
Messi did not move to PSG from Newell's Old Boys did he?
 

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They'll rest him around the CL games, probably plays all the home games other than those, and just a handful of away matches. Really no one cares if they win the league, even though they should. It's all about the CL for now, until another oil billionaire buys a French club.
 

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He’s been at Barca since he was 13yo. You know, boyhood.
and before that played 176 games with Newell's Old Boys, who could not pay for his treatment so he left for Barcelona