Denis Law diagnosed with dementia

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Sad news. Praying for him and his family. Don’t know much about how it’s managed, can modern treatments reduce the severity or speed ?
 

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Truly awful news. My late dad had Dementia for the last 7 years of his life, I wouldn't wish that illness on anyone.
 

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What a well written statement to come out with.

A warrior who will keep fighting.

No ego about Denis ever he's a wonderful human being.

Be happy Sir. :devil:
 

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Gutted to hear about The King. A fantastic player and bloke. Saw him in the 60’s play with Best and Charlton. Nothing of him but tough as they come. Didn’t mind handing it out if necessary. Sad sad news, I feel for him and his family.
 

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Heartbreaking news! Went through it with my Grandma before she passed away, some of the hardest times. Wish him and his family all the best.

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Same. Probably assisted suicide for me. Same if i get terminal cancer. Dont know which is worst dementia or cancer.
Im not an expert on either illness but to me the big difference is that until cancer becomes untreatable and/or terminal, something thankfully we are seeing less of, and its not in the brain, it is an illness where at least one knows where one stands. Im a former cancer patient and while I was being treated I was able to live my life pretty normally before getting the "all clear" some years ago. With dimentia it seems that it very quickly starts to infringe upon your life, your memories etc and for this at present there is no remedy, no stopping it as with terrible speed and finality it shreds you of your memories, consciousness, perception and dignity. With cancer there is always the possibility of taking matters into your own hands, but dimentia takes away even that. Cancer is a terrible illness but I would rather that than dimentia.
 

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Im not an expert on either illness but to me the big difference is that until cancer becomes untreatable and/or terminal, something thankfully we are seeing less of, and its not in the brain, it is an illness where at least one knows where one stands. Im a former cancer patient and while I was being treated I was able to live my life pretty normally before getting the "all clear" some years ago. With dimentia it seems that it very quickly starts to infringe upon your life, your memories etc and for this at present there is no remedy, no stopping it as with terrible speed and finality it shreds you of your memories, consciousness, perception and dignity. With cancer there is always the possibility of taking matters into your own hands, but dimentia takes away even that. Cancer is a terrible illness but I would rather that than dimentia.
The pain of terminal cancer though i have read is terrible. Growing into your bones and spine and all sorts of other stuff. Not that i know much about either.

Dementia i agree is horrible. Just to be soiling yourself all the time.

To be honest, when it is your time, any illness must be terrible. I recall schopenhauer saying life was not worth it because of the end.
 

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We used to hang about Old Trafford during the early 60's during school holidays and try and get autographs. Dennis came out of the players entrance and all the kids gathered round, he got us all to line up in orderely fashion and signed everyone's autograph book. Fantastic player, legend and I wish him and his family all the best.
 

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God love him :( Have they concluded for definite that footballers are more at risk? It does seem that an awful lot of them get dementia.
 

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Same. Probably assisted suicide for me. Same if i get terminal cancer. Dont know which is worst dementia or cancer.
Dementia surely, if it gets serious, you cant even remember some family or treasured memories. At least with cancer you get to live and remember the times spent with the family.
 

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Dementia surely, if it gets serious, you cant even remember some family or treasured memories. At least with cancer you get to live and remember the times spent with the family.
You see people dont understand the pain one is in towards the end with cancer. People (not you) cannot emphatize with the pain people are in when the cancer is growing into their organs or growing into their bones. I had a tooth infected once that had to be pulled and the pain was about a 9 out of 10. I could not even sleep with it. Imagine that pain all over your body non stop. The end as well of terminal cancer is similar to dementia where you are lying in bed out of it soiling yourself non stop.

The only thing that can maybe help is morphine or a similar opoid, but they can only give you so much.

Luckily i am going to die or a heart attack or stroke. Painful as well but over in minutes.

I am being philosophical but is life worth it in the end? Is the life of a gazelle worth being eaten alive by a pack of hyenas at the end?

Edit: I recall reading an answer to the pain on cancer on quora so maybe if you google it, you might find it.
 
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''but the King is Denis Law'' the chant that rang out from the Stretford End every match in my youth.
Clutching his shirt in hand with one finger aloft, signalling another stupendous goal, he WAS the King.
I don't want to think of him suffering from illness and old age, it will happen to all of us in due course. I want to remember the days 55 or so years ago when I cheered along with everyone else one of the three best players ever to represent United. I remember every Christmas expecting, and not being disappointed, that Denis would get sent off, so he could enjoy Hogmany back up in Scotland. But who could be upset by it? Not when for the rest of the season he gave such pleasure.
A gent, a fantastic footballer, an entertainer, a KING!
 

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You see people dont understand the pain one is in towards the end with cancer. People (not you) cannot emphatize with the pain people are in when the cancer is growing into their organs or growing into their bones. I had a tooth infected once that had to be pulled and the pain was about a 9 out of 10. I could not even sleep with it. Imagine that pain all over your body non stop. The end as well of terminal cancer is similar to dementia where you are lying in bed out of it soiling yourself non stop.

The only thing that can maybe help is morphine or a similar opoid, but they can only give you so much.

Luckily i am going to die or a heart attack or stroke. Painful as well but over in minutes.

I am being philosophical but is life worth it in the end? Is the life of a gazelle worth being eaten alive by a pack of hyenas at the end?

Edit: I recall reading an answer to the pain on cancer on quora so maybe if you google it, you might find it.
Now that you have highlighted that to me, i retract me previous statement.
 

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We used to hang about Old Trafford during the early 60's during school holidays and try and get autographs. Dennis came out of the players entrance and all the kids gathered round, he got us all to line up in orderely fashion and signed everyone's autograph book. Fantastic player, legend and I wish him and his family all the best.
It says it all about his character that in his statement today he specifically mentioned that he wouldn't be physically able to do any signings henceforth- the fans are still at the forefront of his thoughts even as he battles this illness. A class act on and off the pitch.
 

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So sad. One of those diseases that there's no fighting.
 

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My dad was diagnosed with it 6 months ago too..it’s heartbreaking and I’m dreading the day he no longer remembers me and my sisters
 

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The pain of terminal cancer though i have read is terrible. Growing into your bones and spine and all sorts of other stuff. Not that i know much about either.

Dementia i agree is horrible. Just to be soiling yourself all the time.

To be honest, when it is your time, any illness must be terrible. I recall schopenhauer saying life was not worth it because of the end.
True enough, theres no good way to go unless you can decide when that time has come, and with Dimentia that choice is taken from you as your brain and mind deteriorates. I hope I go long before that happens.
 

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You see people dont understand the pain one is in towards the end with cancer. People (not you) cannot emphatize with the pain people are in when the cancer is growing into their organs or growing into their bones. I had a tooth infected once that had to be pulled and the pain was about a 9 out of 10. I could not even sleep with it. Imagine that pain all over your body non stop. The end as well of terminal cancer is similar to dementia where you are lying in bed out of it soiling yourself non stop.

The only thing that can maybe help is morphine or a similar opoid, but they can only give you so much.

Luckily i am going to die or a heart attack or stroke. Painful as well but over in minutes.

I am being philosophical but is life worth it in the end? Is the life of a gazelle worth being eaten alive by a pack of hyenas at the end?

Edit: I recall reading an answer to the pain on cancer on quora so maybe if you google it, you might find it.
My dad died of cancer in Crumpsall Hospital. The attending doctor told the nurse to administer as much diamorphine as he needed 'and then some.' That man eased my father's passing. I knew full what the law would say (this was in the 1970s) but, as God is my witness, I would never have testified against him. To see my dad reduced to a living skeleton and so sick he couldn't even cry for help has haunted me. I hope if I'm ever in that state, that some kind medic will cut it short for me.
 

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First Sir Bobby, now Denis :( Horrible, horrible news.
United have in fact had 6 players from the 1967/68 squad diagnosed with Dimentia; Denis, Nobby, Tony Dunne, David Herd, Bobby Charlton and Bill Foulkes, thats a terrible toll.
 

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My dad died of cancer in Crumpsall Hospital. The attending doctor told the nurse to administer as much diamorphine as he needed 'and then some.' That man eased my father's passing. I knew full what the law would say (this was in the 1970s) but, as God is my witness, I would never have testified against him. To see my dad reduced to a living skeleton and so sick he couldn't even cry for help has haunted me. I hope if I'm ever in that state, that some kind medic will cut it short for me.
Yea horrible alright. And it can go on for months. The doctor in your case did the right thing IMO. My aunt in law died of cancer. Just skinny as hell and in so much pain, that the kind thing would have been to put her out of her misery. Yet she had to soldier on until she finally passed.

There is a good way to live, but no good way to die. You are going to be in pain no matter what kills you.
 

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There's also Gordon McQueen who was diagnosed with dementia back in January. He's only 69. :(
 

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Very sad to hear and I hope life will be as comfortable for him and his family as it is possible to be in the coming years.
 

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United have in fact had 6 players from the 1967/68 squad diagnosed with Dimentia; Denis, Nobby, Tony Dunne, David Herd, Bobby Charlton and Bill Foulkes, thats a terrible toll.
Saw them all play too. We idolized those players back then. My abiding memory of Denis Law was the game against Forest in the run-in to the title in 1967. It 0-0 and Forest's goalie was playing a blinder. He turned a shot from Denis round the post with his fingertips. From the resulting corner, Law did one of his famous bicycle kicks to score the winner.
 

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Saw them all play too. We idolized those players back then. My abiding memory of Denis Law was the game against Forest in the run-in to the title in 1967. It 0-0 and Forest's goalie was playing a blinder. He turned a shot from Denis round the post with his fingertips. From the resulting corner, Law did one of his famous bicycle kicks to score the winner.
As much as I loved Fergies teams the 60s were extra special, probably because I was very young, the travelling involved in getting to the matches, the sheer excitement of being there, the players, the matches themselves....priceless memories.
 

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You see people dont understand the pain one is in towards the end with cancer. People (not you) cannot emphatize with the pain people are in when the cancer is growing into their organs or growing into their bones. I had a tooth infected once that had to be pulled and the pain was about a 9 out of 10. I could not even sleep with it. Imagine that pain all over your body non stop. The end as well of terminal cancer is similar to dementia where you are lying in bed out of it soiling yourself non stop.

The only thing that can maybe help is morphine or a similar opoid, but they can only give you so much.

Luckily i am going to die or a heart attack or stroke. Painful as well but over in minutes.

I am being philosophical but is life worth it in the end? Is the life of a gazelle worth being eaten alive by a pack of hyenas at the end?

Edit: I recall reading an answer to the pain on cancer on quora so maybe if you google it, you might find it.
My dad died from cancer, my mum has alzheimers, I think alzheimers is worse in every way. Just my opinion though.
 

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The Lawman has had a tough few years. What incredible dignity from a United great. God bless him.
 

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There is compared to living your last years before you die as though you are mad, not being able to speak, eat, go to the toilet, remember,or do absolutely anything normal not recognise your own children or the dog you have owned for 10 years etc.
My heart goes out to you my friend. It is hard for those who must stand by helpless. My mother in law spent her last years in a home. She too didn't recognize her daughters. She had forgotten how to eat and, at the end, she was hallucinating. She saw her long-dead relatives in the room and, strange to say, she seemed lucid as she spoke to them. It was pitiful to see.