Obvious ones: Thuram, Zanetti, Cafu, Zambrotta, Angloma, Toricelli, Reuter, Dani Alves (later), Benarrivo. Then more or less with Panucci, Di Livio, Sagnol, Salgado, Ramos, Ferrer, T. Helveg, Pancaro, Petrescu, etc.
I was just curious when Jorge was contradicting and embarrassing SAF in the media during 09. Did you have this energy towards Ronaldo? I vividly remember Ronaldo directly contradicting SAF not even through his agent at times.
Huge difference between him and Kane. Pogba hasn't signed a new contract, which is 100% his right as a human being. Kane, on the other hand, is refusing to honour a contract he's already signed. Big, big difference.
I give you Thuram, Zanetti, Cafu, and Zambrotta. Alves started playing regularly in 2002 so that doesn't count.
Nah.
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None of these have anywhere near the relevance. It hit different coming from your own fans at a club you spent 9 years at bleeding and sweating for. My point was about the Rooney abuse being similar to the Pogba as being abused by your own fans
I always thought he was solid, consistent and hard working but never world class or one of the elite talents. He was number 1 in England for his consistency but never top 5 in the world at anytime in his career for me. I think Neville was similar as a player to Lee Dixon but earned more plaudits and silverware of course. Roy Keane didn't even include him in his personal greatest Man utd 11, going with Paul Parker.
That's fine, like Keane you are entitled to your opinion. I'm sure most of the United lads, Becks, Giggs, Scholes etc would have had him in their greatest united 11s. Dixon is regarded as one of if not Arsenals greatest right back btw. To me his consistency at the top level made him top 5 of his era. A level below the likes of Zanetti, Cafu, Thuram and Zambrotta but i'd put him above anyone else from 95-05. His peak might have been lower than some but it says something that Fergie trusted him for so long. Definitely a tier above the likes of Carragher.
In one of those scenarios, the club can sell for around £100-£120 million and honour a gentlemen’s agreement apparently made with the player. In the other, the club makes nothing and the player (and his agent) can earn a massive signing bonus. Of course, it’s entirely Pogba’s right to see out his contract and move to the highest bidder but I’d certainly prefer to be in Spurs’ position than ours.
Sure, we can agree to disagree. I think Neville is the best right back we had, he was ever present in uniteds most successful period ever. Can never take that from him. I didn't mean to degrade him when I compared him to Dixon who is an Arsenal and English football league icon as well and I've always been fully aware. I watched them both
The club making nothing is purely on the club though. They could've either renewed his contract earlier, or sold him earlier. At the end of the day, it's about coming to some sort of agreement, and putting it in writing (either a contract or a transfer).
Yes, he has completely different yardsticks when it comes to British and non-British players.
We were in Spurs position and decided not to sell. That’s why Pogba only has 1 year left
Like the season when Pogba wanted off, Real made a bid and we asked them to feck off in the knowledge that the player would stay and play instead of refusing to turn up to training?
Best thing is, most players that have played with Pogba have nothing but praise for the vibes he brings to the team. You have Varane today who spoke about Pogba and how he brings such positive vibes to the dressing room but here's Nev and Souness with their tedious shit week after week. Was brilliant how quickly they wanted to discuss the game once Micah richards brought up Kane not turning up for training.
As I understand it, Kane’s situation is more akin to what would have happened if we’d prevented Ronaldo from joining Real in 2009, after Ferguson had promised him he could leave the year before. Yes, we could have forced him to stay but he would, rightly, have felt we’d reneged on a deal and I’d have expected Ronaldo to have done everything in his power to have forced our hand.
unless he did have that "gentleman's" agreement with Levy
I think it was pretty obvious almost from the get-go that Ronaldo wanted to play for Real - he said so often enough. The only surprising things for me is that SAF managed to talk him into "one more year" and that Ronaldo moved on from Madrid. And there was another large difference: Ronaldo played brilliantly almost very game and was a huge reason we one the title in his final season. Pogba tips up every five to six games
Not sure why that matters.
Spanish too presumably
Well, I believe something my boss said to me about 18 months ago - only to be made redundant this year. Levy has never denied an agreement was made. You could say Kane (and I) were stupid to believe just words, and you might not be wrong
is he ever silent?
Have I ever said Kane was an ultimate professional? No... so stop putting words in my mouth. What I will say is Kane has won an awful lot of games for Spurs - rather a lot more than Pogba has for us
So it’s ok for a striker to do that?
Chill out, I was referring to what Neville and Souness said, which I thought you were contradicting.
Sorry to hear about your situation. I just think unless its set in stone somewhere you can never be sure about anything.
before he realised all possible suitors were pretty much skint and/or their priorities lay elsewhere?
Or when Pogba intervened, we’ll never know ey
Very true. I can't remember who his agent is but I still think he's going to end up at City. I till be interesting to see if he is selected by Spurs in the meantime - his "holiday" must be up by now!
Your post came across as a bit of a rant, but this saved it
just as matte of interest... how is it "clear"? what supporters want to know is whether he wants to play for United or not. if not, we should try to get a fee for him and a replacement. If this was Rooney, the caf would be wanting to declare war...
This after he slagged the feck out of him while he was at United?
