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Better than Podolski even!
Union Berlin can now boast 20 consecutive undefeated games at home. An absolutely mad stat for a club their size.
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German Football 21/22 | Gladbach sign Farke
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Better than Podolski even!
Union Berlin can now boast 20 consecutive undefeated games at home. An absolutely mad stat for a club their size.
That's impressive. Meanwhile the "Big City Club" got spanked 6-0 in Leipzig. Dardai going to be fired?
At least it means that Union is on track to stay the better Berlin club.
Gladbach vs BVB in 50 minutes, massive game. The lineups:
That BVB team looks questionable though if I may say so.
Gladbach have started poorly into the season, BVB have lost once already too. Must-win, or must-not-lose, game for both Rose and Hütter..
That BVB team looks questionable though if I may say so.
It's all about Rose, the first time he returns to Gladbach. Their players and officials have begged their fans all week not to do something stupid.
Missing Haaland and Reus is a slight complication, but it gives Bellingham and Moukoko a chance to break Wirtz' record.
And it means Moukoko and Malen are playing up front together for the first time - it's up to them to prove that they can be ready to step up and replace Haaland when he leaves. So a bit of a look into the future for Dortmund's attack.It's all about Rose, the first time he returns to Gladbach. Their players and officials have begged their fans all week not to do something stupid.
Missing Haaland and Reus is a slight complication, but it gives Bellingham and Moukoko a chance to break Wirtz' record.
Edit: I just realised they put Moukoko in that lineup picture. Might be the first time they really put him willingly into spotlight? I remember Dortmun'ds PR usually trying to keep the hype around Moukoko low.
Just today I have read an article about the Swiss Haaland. Next year might be the year he's unleashed on Bundesliga.
"Swiss Haaland"? Who are you talking about?
Bradley Fink.
The kind of name you would expect to have 25 appearances in midfield for Energie Cottbus and the US Men's National Team.
The kind of name you would expect to have 25 appearances in midfield for Energie Cottbus and the US Men's National Team.
Rudelbildung after 40 seconds 
How on earth is that a yellow for Dahoud?
The lack of Reus and Haaland is palpable
The lack of Reus and Haaland is palpable
Are you serious?How on earth is that a yellow for Dahoud?
The lack of Reus and Haaland is palpable
Ref of the year..
Was about to retract that a while later but thought I'll let it standAre you serious?
thought it was not necessarily a yellow but not wrong either. In combination with the second it's a bit laughable though. Game over.Really wanted to be the star of the game. Ruined what was a good game until now.
Ref threw a hissy fit there.
Btw I'm saying this now, the highest level for Moukoko will be a mid table Bundesliga team, more likely he'll be playing in lower teams. Just don't see the talent in him to succeed at this highest level.
Oh and Malen is a horrible signing.
Btw I'm saying this now, the highest level for Moukoko will be a mid table Bundesliga team, more likely he'll be playing in lower teams. Just don't see the talent in him to succeed at this highest level.
Oh and Malen is a horrible signing.
I mean Stindl has been protesting several times, then Dahoud waves his arm and this idiot forgets that Dahoud is already on a yellow and gives him another one to to assert his dominance after Stindl primed him. You can see he wasn't aware that it was Dahoud's second, he shows him the yellow, walks off and then comes back with a red, after Gladbach's players or an assistant told him. Absolutely ridiculous.Was about to retract that a while later but thought I'll let it stand
It's not easy for Rose with Haaland, Reus, Reyna and Brandt missing, but this 532 idea completely backfired.
Two yellow cards mean a red card on top though, nothing wrong there.
Yes, obviously that is technically correct. But I guarantee you Dahoud doesn't get sent off if Aytekin remembers that he's already on a yellow. He fecked up the game after 40 minutes, because he lost his cool. That's unacceptable, let alone for a ref with so many years of experience.
It really is the kind of challenge you can't commit when you are on a yellow, because, guess what, you might very well be be sent off. It's not very contentious, really.
Clear case of BVB fans misdirecting their frustration which really should be targeted at Dahoud for his indiscipline. Not a new phenomenon, he's been merrily hacking away for a while.
Except he didn't sent him off for the foul. Dahoud waved dismissively, then Aytekin gave him a yellow and a lecture to calm down. Then someone told him that Dahoud was already on a yellow and then he reached for the second card. Obviously Dahoud was very sloppy this game and to a degree in other games as well, but that wasn't why he got sent off.
And to illustrate Aytekin's quality, this second half now runs under "anything goes". Stamping, hacking, complaining from both sides, no cards.
Yeah this half sure is almost reaching Ligue 1 levels of fouling
BVB have been poor though and Rose completely botched the approach to this.
BVB have been poor though and Rose completely botched the approach to this.
Reinier and Nico Schulz coming on.
The essence of BVB summed up in one short sentence.
The essence of BVB summed up in one short sentence.
Bellingham is a fecking warrior, unbelievable player already, only 18 years old, present all over the pitch.
I think there perfect sentence is:
Hazard takes a shot from a free kick and hits Witsel in the back.
Rose's BVB losing to Gladbach
You love to see it
And it's a massively important win for Hütter.
You love to see it
And it's a massively important win for Hütter.
Meanwhile in the second league: Schalke wins 2:0 against Rostock. The plan "let old man Terodde work his magic" might not be creative or always succesful, but today it was, scored both goals.
Yes and its sad. Grammozis has no Idea what hes doing. Schalke wont make it back to the Bundesliga if they dont replace him with someone who isnt afraid to unleash them. Schalke has by far the biggest Potential for scoring a lot of Goals next to Bremen i say.
Werder lose again and Hamburg with another draw...HSV, Schalke and Werder are now 7th, 8th and 10th. The 2nd Bundesliga really is the opposite of the Bundesliga, with the top 11 teams within 6 points after 8 matches. And with all those former giants competing, it's tiny Regensburg leading the pack.
So... how is the inevitable participation of the green party in the next german government going to influence german football? Most clubs already seem to aim towards having a lighter carbon-footprint. Feel free to highlight any actions clubs have taken that you know of.
Influence? zero
Bradley Fink was good, but in some places he had strong errors. But who doesn't? Time will tell if he's a new talent or another midget.
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To illustrate that even further, Ayketin went on the record after the game that the yellow was to "set a sign to get him respect" and brought in a situation with Guerreiro that was also waved off. What kind of shit tier refereeing is this bringing in an offense of a different player? Every call is supposed be an individual one not some kind of collective punishment method.
What actually happened here? Dahoud commited an everyday foul in midfield which got called. Dahoud disagreed with that call, walked away and waved it off. Waving off in that manner is the equivalent of shaking your head or saying "that was not a foul". It is not a proper protest as he actually did not hinder the game from going on like the hounding of a ref and entering his personal space (which is something our southern friends in red made into an art form) or actively challanged the call. It was just being unhappy but accepting about a call.
This can´t be grounds for a card as if you would set the bar that low half the games I ref at amateur level (I´m licensed up to federal state level) would be called off because they would not be enough remaining players on the pitch. Players, staff and coaches voice or show their disagreement all the time and they are free to do so as long as my calls are still followed, the game is not disrupted by it and I´´m not insulted either in my role or as a person in the process. Disagreeing with someone is not showing lack of respect, it is just having a different opinion.
Ayketins biggest flaw as a ref is that he has too much of an ego and puts himself too often at the forefront of a game which is the exact opposite of what a ref should do. He got his ego bruised and made a decision that had a large impact on the game. The bigger problem here is that Bundesliga coaches are actually supposed to be the role models and to be seen as measure sticks for amateur refs. Well good luck handling yourself in that manner in a lower league game.
First things first, I agree with you entirely. I don't think actions of other players should influence the actual decision but I'd say that is common practice and generally agreed on by the majority of fans and media representatives. The very phrase 'he should be careful that the game doesn't slip out of his hands' is a testament to it - an offense that goes unpunished when the game is rather calm often leads to a booking when the atmosphere is heated. And there are multiple examples of such lines of thought. "You don't make such a call early on in such an important game" is another one.
Dahoud was a "victim" of that mindset if you ask me. Aytekin wanted to book him as a statement but forgot that he had already given him a yellow. If he did remember, the phrase "that was a weak yellow card, you don't send a player off for such a minor misbehavior" would've been applied.
It's all the same school of thought. Referees shall interpret rule breaks in the context of the game instead of evaluating every situation individually.
I will be honest. It's an absolute mystery to me how Aytekin is still allowed to referee anything above Kreisliga. He has a track record or being a horrible referee for over a decade now.
If he was a woman i would accuse him of getting here with different means, but you know.
Anyhow, the first half didn't look like Dortmund would win regardless. It was one of these typical Dortmund performances when they are just shite every once in a while.
If he was a woman i would accuse him of getting here with different means, but you know.
Anyhow, the first half didn't look like Dortmund would win regardless. It was one of these typical Dortmund performances when they are just shite every once in a while.
Implying men can't sleep their way to the top...
well exactly THAT kind of happend with german refs didn`t it? It even to court.
He is however implying that women do. Well, i‘d say he‘ll remain in the newbie section for a while longer
Come one, guys. That was a tongue-in-cheek joke - especially since it actually did happen to men in german refereeing. Tacitus got it. No need to be offended by that.
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At first glance I thought it was a ranking of u21 players, but then Benzema's inclusion seemed a bit odd