I mean we have a squad, its up to the manager to work out a system that works best with the players at his disposal.
This is unfair on dyche, he has achieved a lot more than the other two given his relative resource
He is a pundit and it literally paid to give opinions, why does he need to be helpful?
Hr keeps saying "I know he's got to win trophies..." We are a long way from that. He can't even get performances. That's the main issue.
He didn’t win much trophies at Valencia maybe he could understand the perils of management a bit more.
On the bolded part, he sold Lukaku to give Greenwood more game time and that worked out tremendously. Also Martial actually got 17 PL goals and 23 in all comps that season.
Yeah, but he is limited for a top club. I think Ole could do fine with a midtable club a bit like Moyes, but we should aim higher as Man United. Oles level with us is top 4 when we should push for the title with the other big clubs.
Personally I dont think Ole is a mid table level manager either. Sure what he does he prefers playing on the counter so it fits a small team better but unlike Moyes he has no track record of doing it well and organizing a team at all so I dont see it personally. Movement and organization, team being cohesive, Ole just doesnt have it. Moyes does. Moyes is miles better IMO.
Yep, agreed. See this is the thing - our midfield gets talked about like it's absolute poverty, but in reality I'd expect most top managers would be able to build a functional and creative unit out of the options we have available.
Feck off Gary, 18 months now? Nah, he’s got to deliver this season or it’s sayonara Solskjaer.
City's midfield works because there is a system in place and players know what they are supposed to do.
Do you think Ole just tells the players to just go out there and play?
Even coaches at conference level clubs have that, it's not that hard to get.
Jesus christ the state of this
Everyone’s hating on Fred now but he did have a very good period during which it wasn’t uncommon to hear him referred to as our Kante. That’s obviously an equally outlandish claim but Fred isn’t nearly as bad as he’s looking right now. I personally think it’s down to poor tactical instructions exacerbating poor form.
He’s piling pressure on where it doesn’t need to be and this is after Ole called him out last week, I think Neville could easily not have said nothing at all. To win a trophy this season would have to be CL or PL which is a big ask so that leaves FA cup. He’s as well as putting the first nails in the coffin I don’t think there’s no need for it..
Exactly how difficult do you think it is to get one of these licenses? Literally any footballer, who has played some professional football can get this license. Mind you, I am not calling Ole a bum. But please don't store any value in having this license.
Where you do need to know your stuff to get one of those licenses it’s mostly a money racket that takes you several thousand to get, that’s why footballers get them so easy and I’ve always wondered how they do because it says you have to coach underage a couple of years before moving onto B License which I don’t see a lot doing.
Not really, that season we were not a great team but we were perhaps only being discussed as an outside chance because of the 'Mourinho effect'. He was playing with a team who finished 6th, with a couple of additions.
There's no evidence that we play with any sort of tactics on the pitch. What game plan do you see? Why do we always have a slow start? Why do we keep relying on individual brilliance to bail us out everytime? When was the last time we controlled a game and won comfortably? When was the last time he used his subs to change the game in time?
So that's one game. Where we won it in the final minute after getting outclassed the entire game. How about Villa? Everton? West Ham? Southampton? Even West Ham in the league needed a last minute penalty save to get us a win. What about that tactical masterclass from him in the EL final? We have underperformed in all but 2 home games this season.
For the WHU game, I'd say the game should have been done way sooner considering the fact that we were denied 2 pens and we missed a couple of 1 v 1s.
Okay, lets take that back then. Guess conceding first and trying to make a comeback is the only gameplan working in favor of us. Ole in.
You can't now move the goal posts that your point has been disproven
I'm not trying to do so. I have clearly said that I'm taking that back.
Of course not, but it’s all relative in the same vein as player standards.
You said that @UnitedSofa was cherry picking games, and you wrote down a bunch of games that we didn't win. I just pointed out that if we take a bigger sample than what you've quoted, the story comes back to what UnitedSofa had said.
The reason we'd be disappointed is he's been backed handsomely and this squad should be challenging until the end of the season. Let's see at the end of November - I suspect by then that most would be happy if we merely secure top 4 again - the title will be long gone.
He's feeling the pressure - he got up and shouted instructions for the first time in months and then because that's not his style he was immediately excessively nice - smiling and giving the thumbs up. He knows he's down sh*t creek with no idea how to turn it around. The bizarre reactions will continue.
How's that moving a goal post , when the original point stands ? Ole has taken as far as he can. Pretty much out of title race after 5 -6 games and now fighting for top 4, once again.
Agreed, but all he had to say was about the subs part after which I corrected myself(I still disagree. Throwing your best players from the bench and changing a game tactically using subs is different but I don't want to derail the thread). He had no responses to other stuff.
Very well observed. I am Ole in but I don't pretend it is because he is a great "Man Manager". He is riding on top of goodwill that fans have for him.
Because for that midfield to work, some actual coaching work needs to be done. So for us it would never work.
Which is why we need a better coach, an actual coach.
