Christian Brueckner named as key suspect in Madeline McCann case | German Police state this is a murder investigation

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Thats interesting. Do you have children, out of curiosity? Also, how come the investigation period was so odd for them. Their behaviour afterwards wasn't very reasonable.
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Can you give us your guide as to how parents of a disappeared child in a foreign country should behave as to avoid suspicion. Just so we know.

I have kids, just last night I was doing some work in a field beside my house, no more than 100m away, after they'd gone to bed, are you saying if something happened to one of them I'd be guilty of neglect? Do you have kids? Do you keep watch on them 24x7 to avoid the possibility that you'll ever be accused of neglect?
 

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Eyepopper said:
1 - Can you give us your guide as to how parents of a disappeared child in a foreign country should behave as to avoid suspicion. Just so we know.

2 - I have kids, just last night I was doing some work in a field beside my house, no more than 100m away, after they'd gone to bed, are you saying if something happened to one of them I'd be guilty of neglect? Do you have kids? Do you keep watch on them 24x7 to avoid the possibility that you'll ever be accused of neglect?
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1 - By cooperating fully and not touching a single thing until the police investigate.
2- Im not accusing them of neglect. I am saying that things are extremely questionable. I have a kid, and I know that if I do have a kid then all precautions are to be made to make sure nothing goes wrong.
 

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Relevated said:
Thats interesting. Do you have children, out of curiosity? Also, how come the investigation period was so odd for them. Their behaviour afterwards wasn't very reasonable.
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Yes I have kids and they have been more than 50 metres away from me.

I imagine their behaviour was not normal afterwards as they were racked with worry and guilt and they were haunted by the darkest thoughts of what had happened to their daughter.
 

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Relevated said:
1 - By cooperating fully and not touching a single thing until the police investigate.
2- Im not accusing them of neglect. I am saying that things are extremely questionable. I have a kid, and I know that if I do have a kid then all precautions are to be made to make sure nothing goes wrong.
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Not extremely questionable enough to ever warrant any criminal charge, seems strange to me that 15 years later (ill informed) third parties are still so focused on tooting that horn.

I'm guessing you sit by your kids bedside, watching them sleep all night every night then yeah?

Never let them out of your sight, ever?
 

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Eyepopper said:
Not extremely questionable enough to ever warrant any criminal charge, seems strange to me that 15 years later (ill informed) third parties are still so focused on tooting that horn.

I'm guessing you sit by your kids bedside, watching them sleep all night every night then yeah?

Never let them out of your sight, ever?
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Im not sure why you're jumping from extreme to extreme.
 

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Im not sure why you're jumping from extreme to extreme.
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Having dinner 100m from where your child is asleep, and checking on them every 30 mins is hardly extreme. If you think it is then surely the only way to 100% guarantee your childs safety would be to literally never let them out of your sight.

Madeline McCann is, likely, dead because of an opportunistic predator, not because of her parents.
 

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Leaving your kid in an unlocked hotel room whilst you go for dinner most certainly has an element of neglect no matter how you spin it.

Them never having to face charges for that doesn't mean they're completely innocent. That's literally not how the world works.
 

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Leaving your kid in an unlocked hotel room whilst you go for dinner most certainly has an element of neglect no matter how you spin it.

Them never having to face charges for that doesn't mean they're completely innocent. That's literally not how the world works.
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It was a villa and within their view, but that aside, was it a risk? Yes, just like the risk any parent takes when they leave their kids out of their sight. Did they pay the absolute ultimate price for haven taken that risk? Yes.

Should it be trotted out every time the case is mentioned as if it in someway implies that they only have themselves to blame - I don't think so.

I view it as victim blaming. Did Sarah Everard take a risk walking home along at night? Of course she did, that's not to say she bares any responsibility for what happened to her.

Madeline McCann didn't die because she had an accident while unsupervised in a dangerous environment, she died due to the actions of a predatory pedophile.
 

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I don't think it was that opportunistic. Clearly someone learned the McCann's dinner time patterns, their daughter was clearly targeted. I don't believe that some person just went there to see if there were lonely children in the villas, he wasn't going to risk being caught, and clearly he had someone helping. The person knew the child would be helpless.

Now, Brueckner was clearly a real life gta character: sociopathic behavior, violent, liked to abuse on drugs, was a serial rapist and would do almost anything for financial profit, either be drug smugglinh, kidnaping or worst. He had the right connections to profit on human traffick, which I believe it was Maddie's kidnapping purpose.
 

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What the McCann’s did was common enough practice (otherwise resorts wouldn’t offer ‘look in’ services)
Do they regret it? Yes, probably until the end of their lives
We can all say that we are perfect parents but sometimes you make choices which seem bad when you reflect later
 

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golden_blunder said:
We are all perfect with hindsight
What the McCann’s did was common enough practice (otherwise resorts wouldn’t offer ‘look in’ services)
Do they regret it? Yes, probably until the end of their lives
We can all say that we are perfect parents but sometimes you make choices which seem bad when you reflect later
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The whole "they did it" narrative thats lasted for years is also sickening.
 

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Hmm, I probably have rather more faith in the German police than in an ex-detective making a TV show.
 

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It's probably worth being wary of "a team led by an ex-detective" investigative breakthroughs, even more so when they get reported through The Sun and in advance of an upcoming documentary.

It was only a few months ago that "a group of more than 40 former law enforcement investigators, journalists and military intelligence officers" solved the Zodiac case, except they hadn't.
 

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So looks like that Christian did it? Hoping the parents get some closure.
 

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Not neccesarily, he's not been charged just named as a suspect. The 15yr statute of limitations was up soon but this allows them to keep things open so don't think anything's changed really.
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Interesting, I saw that German authorities have been building a case against Christian but haven't shared their evidence yet. Wonder how likely it is.
 

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The Telegraph is reporting today that more links to Madeleine have been found in Brueckner's camper van, according to a Portuguese journalist who's close to the case. The "unconfirmed speculation" is that it's threads from the pyjamas she was wearing.
 

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They must be pretty confident this Brueckner is their guy if they're prepared to authorise a search of an area already searched in 2008. I wonder what evidence they have on him, got to be more than just a conversation between him and another prisoner surely?
 

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Compton22 said:
They must be pretty confident this Brueckner is their guy if they're prepared to authorise a search of an area already searched in 2008. I wonder what evidence they have on him, got to be more than just a conversation between him and another prisoner surely?
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I assume it’s more to do with circumstantial evidence based around the fact the guy is convicted sex offender, known to have been in the area at the time and committed rapes in the area.

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They did, nothing was found
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Oh ok, cheers.
 

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Apparently they are digging a specific area near the reservoir and several bags have been taken away for forensics.
 
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