Football coach jailed for 25 years in Dubai over CBD vape oil

Gehrman

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Meh just another junkie getting what he deserves.
 

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Sorry for not picking that up immediately, but you never know on the Caf
I used to self-medicate with potent weed for quite a lot years and grow my own. Including CBD plants although that was a bit boring.
 

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It’s a weird place. Like a reasonably convincing stage set of Western society but with trapdoors through which you fall back to the Middle Ages.
 

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Harsh, that British woman few years ago in Egypt I think who had her husband's prescription drugs, can't remember the story exactly, but she got far less and was a harsh sentence at the time.
 

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I just think it's an insulting word to a group of people (drug addicts) who need help. I had a sister who died from a drug addiction, so when people use the word ‘junkie’ it just gets to me a bit that’s all. I’m probably just being soft.
 

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I just think it's an insulting word to a group of people (drug addicts) who need help. I had a sister who died from a drug addiction, so when people use the word ‘junkie’ it just gets to me a bit that’s all. I’m probably just being soft.
Fair enough - I’d only really associated “junkies” with people that’d rob their granny to pay for a hit, so not exactly “nice” people. Doesn’t mean they don’t need help in getting over their addiction.

Sorry about your sister.
 

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"For me to be accused of promoting and selling drugs in a country that has the same beliefs and values as me is very upsetting as it affects my future."

Give me a break Robin Hood. If they have the same beliefs and values as you, why don't you just take the punishment on the chin? And it's only 25 years, the affects on your future will hardly be noticeable.
 

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I just think it's an insulting word to a group of people (drug addicts) who need help. I had a sister who died from a drug addiction, so when people use the word ‘junkie’ it just gets to me a bit that’s all. I’m probably just being soft.
Agree wholeheartedly, not a great word.
 

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I just think it's an insulting word to a group of people (drug addicts) who need help. I had a sister who died from a drug addiction, so when people use the word ‘junkie’ it just gets to me a bit that’s all. I’m probably just being soft.
Sorry to hear about your sister man. That's rough af.

I totally agree about the word junkie. Too of many of my primary school classmates are still struggling with addiction 30 yrs later.
 

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Not saying it’s right but Dubai/ UAE is insanely safe for this system. My uncle has left his £50k Rolex at a bar and picked it up the next day no issues.

Laws like this in UK would make it safer.
Would it make it (whatever it is) safer? Sounds like you like the idea of draconian eye for an eye penalties even if there isn't much due process or concept of justice. Personally I'd rather live in a place where some idiot who can't keep track of his stupidly expensive watch might get is back less often in return for a legal system fitting for the first world. And yes I have lived there.
 

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Except in the UAE rules are rules except when you are related to someone important or it is easier just to lockup the first convenient person to make the problem go away.
Those countries are fecked up in so many more ways than just their laws. That's why I don't feel sorry for the guy, why even take a chance like that? He should have thrown it away the minute his "buddy" showed him the stuff. I don't agree one bit with their laws or their morals but the guy should have been smarter than this.
 

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Those countries are fecked up in so many more ways than just their laws. That's why I don't feel sorry for the guy, why even take a chance like that? He should have thrown it away the minute his "buddy" showed him the stuff. I don't agree one bit with their laws or their morals but the guy should have been smarter than this.
I feel sorry for him but at the same time agree he was an idiot for taking the chance. When i went Qatar a few years back i left absolutely nothing to chance.
 

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Those countries are fecked up in so many more ways than just their laws. That's why I don't feel sorry for the guy, why even take a chance like that? He should have thrown it away the minute his "buddy" showed him the stuff. I don't agree one bit with their laws or their morals but the guy should have been smarter than this.
If he knew of its existence and didn't flush it that was a very poor choice.
 

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I remember going on holiday to Malaysia and the pilot announced, dear passengers if you brought cannabis or other drugs please flush it now, you will be sentenced to death were we're going.

This law seems ridiculously barbaric, but why the feck does his mate bring this stuff to a country like that. It's like walking into a mosque with a pint.

Those signed confessions and use of coercion are baffling to me though. It's like they really want people to be guilty of stuff.
 

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I remember going on holiday to Malaysia and the pilot announced, dear passengers if you brought cannabis or other drugs please flush it now, you will be sentenced to death were we're going.

This law seems ridiculously barbaric, but why the feck does his mate bring this stuff to a country like that. It's like walking into a mosque with a pint.

Those signed confessions and use of coercion are baffling to me though. It's like they really want people to be guilty of stuff.
I suppose they only have to make an example of one person to deter a thousand others.
 

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I believe that's the Taliban's argument for parading beheaded corpses through the streets.
Mmm not saying it’s right but it probably makes their job easier if they rule with an iron fist.
 

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Mmm not saying it’s right but it probably makes their job easier if they rule with an iron fist.
Yeah I imagine autocratic rule is more convenient than listening to the annoying plebs all the time.

Well I suppose the plebs also voted for brexit. So it's not much better.
 

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Well as long as the drone strikes are on foreign soil hey?
The point i was making that isnt this just first world moral relativism, chopping off hands / corporal punishment = medieval (evil) society you wouldnt want to live in. countered by the fact enlightened states like britain engage in lots of actions designed to maim and kill people who are suspected of offences, but not not given the benefit of a trial. we also live in a country where one our main elected representatives today wants our coastguard to be given immunity from killing refugees in the channel.

im no fan of the arab states, but lets not pretend that somehow they are beneath 'us' (in the west), when its 'us' that have contributed and sustained their status for 'our' benefit.
 

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The point i was making that isnt this just first world moral relativism, chopping off hands / corporal punishment = medieval (evil) society you wouldnt want to live in. countered by the fact enlightened states like britain engage in lots of actions designed to maim and kill people who are suspected of offences, but not not given the benefit of a trial. we also live in a country where one our main elected representatives today wants our coastguard to be given immunity from killing refugees in the channel.

im no fan of the arab states, but lets not pretend that somehow they are beneath 'us' (in the west), when its 'us' that have contributed and sustained their status for 'our' benefit.
I think we'd still buy oil from them if they had fairly liberal laws.
 

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The point i was making that isnt this just first world moral relativism, chopping off hands / corporal punishment = medieval (evil) society you wouldnt want to live in. countered by the fact enlightened states like britain engage in lots of actions designed to maim and kill people who are suspected of offences, but not not given the benefit of a trial. we also live in a country where one our main elected representatives today wants our coastguard to be given immunity from killing refugees in the channel.

im no fan of the arab states, but lets not pretend that somehow they are beneath 'us' (in the west), when its 'us' that have contributed and sustained their status for 'our' benefit.
Are you accusing the caf of being too lenient in it's criticism of UK, US or Western politics in general? I know I'm not holding back when I see something in the Westminster or US Politics threads to criticize and I don't have the impression others are either.
 

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There is absolutely more to this story than just that. My cousin has lived in dubai for 10 years and smoked weed and been caught with it. The police just told him to keep the noise down. You can do whatever you want in dubai really as long as its not in the middle of the street.

There must be more.
 

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The point i was making that isnt this just first world moral relativism, chopping off hands / corporal punishment = medieval (evil) society you wouldnt want to live in. countered by the fact enlightened states like britain engage in lots of actions designed to maim and kill people who are suspected of offences, but not not given the benefit of a trial. we also live in a country where one our main elected representatives today wants our coastguard to be given immunity from killing refugees in the channel.

im no fan of the arab states, but lets not pretend that somehow they are beneath 'us' (in the west), when its 'us' that have contributed and sustained their status for 'our' benefit.
Your initial post was in response to mine. I don't live in America or the UK so your 'clever' put down about drone strikes doesn't work.

I'd also suspect much like hand-lopping you'll find it quite rare to see anyone defending drone strikes.
 

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Your initial post was in response to mine. I don't live in America or the UK so your 'clever' put down about drone strikes doesn't work.

I'd also suspect much like hand-lopping you'll find it quite rare to see anyone defending drone strikes.
i wasnt trying to make a clever putdown, its interesting you see my comment in that way.