It always takes some longer to cotton on.
Why so many knee-jerk reactions and negativity 7 games in?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
One clean sheet in 19 games.
Another game, another shit performance.
How long are you willing to wait ?
and what improvements has he actually made?
Inexcusable with the money spent and the talent in the squad. It’s all on Ole. Stupid decisions, unbalanced midfield, lack of any cohesion. Playing like absolute strangers! That is totally, 100% on the coach.
He needs to go NOW to save the season. Anyone backing him at this stage is actively working against what is best for the club.
It’s not up for debate anymore, the quality of football couldn’t be any worse for the standard of players we have.
If you care at all, it is impossible not to be angry. Yet, caring is now seen as a negative on the forum.
There is a massive difference between abusive posters and those who have just seen and felt for a long time that he isn’t the right man. It doesn’t make you any better than the latter to still be supporting him at this stage.
Ole out…today
He needs to go NOW to save the season. Anyone backing him at this stage is actively working against what is best for the club.
It’s not up for debate anymore, the quality of football couldn’t be any worse for the standard of players we have.
If you care at all, it is impossible not to be angry. Yet, caring is now seen as a negative on the forum.
There is a massive difference between abusive posters and those who have just seen and felt for a long time that he isn’t the right man. It doesn’t make you any better than the latter to still be supporting him at this stage.
Ole out…today
But we just needed a new CB right?
Some people's heads are so buried in the sand, it's almost traumatic. Like Stockholm Syndrome.
I have avoided the thread like the plague. I don't see any Ole in fans as real fans at this stage. Have to be trolls or deluded fools. Don't give "..but but SAF did..." as excuse.
Please does not have a clue how to use tge squad we have, it's a very good squad, better than most in the PL
Ole is just a bad manager, Ole win the PL, FFS the way we are playing, we will be lucky to win another game this season.
Ole is just a bad manager, Ole win the PL, FFS the way we are playing, we will be lucky to win another game this season.
Most of our rival’s fans are praying that we keep Ole on as long as possible.
Solskjaer should be embarrassed to evoke that ridiculous "Man United DNA" flannel next time he is asked about progress or playing style. We are not only under prepared but seemingly arrogant too, thinking we can just turn up at a ground like Leicester and play our football without any discernible plan, it's almost insulting.
Says all really. I was praying for Pool to keep Rodgers and he is miles better than Ole.
His post is mental
We’ve signed almost whole team of players for Ole
It’s not like the players who haven’t been replaced are bad either, they are just being tasked with a job they can not perform.
The football has not got better in the last 2 years it’s stayed the same, are expectations were just lower before
It's almost as if a man managing in Norway, with no record at the top level wasn't the man for the job in the first place...
Imagine thinking people are only forming their opinions after 7 games instead of 2 and a half seasons of utter dross
He's our Arteta.
Completely agree with everything you have said. The only problem is though is that I can’t see the owners viewing it the same as the fans. Especially when they are given his coaching staff contract extensions like Carrick & McKenna.
Thing is I’m extremely envious at how Abrahamovich runs Chelsea. None of this bullshit 2-3 year projects. The guy wants instant results and isn’t afraid to sack managers when he knows that they ain’t going to achieve that for him regardless of what their stature at the club is or what they have achieved as managers elsewhere.
Agreed.
An English one at that, so that Harry can communicate better.
The fact the board are not taking decisive action is another example of why we need the Glazers out.
“knee jerk”
This is the equivalent to last year's thread after winning to RBL.
It’s only 1 more game, but if we’d lost 1-0 I wouldn’t be as worried, but we lost 4-2, after going 1-0 up too.
As a passionate member (haha! Member) Ole In side of the debate, even I am starting to worry what is going on at the club.
Genuinely concerned for the Liverpool game, we should be ok for Atalanta, but even that’s going to be tough.
I still want them to stick with Ole, but things need to change & change fast!
I fear we are gonna get spanked by Liverpool….
As a passionate member (haha! Member) Ole In side of the debate, even I am starting to worry what is going on at the club.
Genuinely concerned for the Liverpool game, we should be ok for Atalanta, but even that’s going to be tough.
I still want them to stick with Ole, but things need to change & change fast!
I fear we are gonna get spanked by Liverpool….
I think the knee jerk is knowing that there is limited scope for something to change, our DM/CM situation and CB situation is not a quick fix, we have no players to change it unless we play somebody like Lindelof out of position as DM, so next game, and the game after we will see the same mistakes which cost against Leicester and that have been prevalent all season.
Have you seen them play in the past couple years? We're in for a treat, if we keep playing like that.
It’s Europe, you’d hope they take it up a notch or 10
Your hope is based on your fondness for Ole as a figure in the history of the club you love.
There is no real evidence.
It is time for the Ole In crowd to face the reality of the situation we are in. Rivals with a similar quality of player, but world class coaches, playing much, much better football than we are, week, after week, after week.
We all would have loved it had Ole proven to be a good coach but the start to the season is the result of 3 years of coaching. It’s abysmal. Not even close to what it should be with some really special players on the pitch.
We all love Ole, but he needs to go. He will never be the man. There is literally no upside to writing off another season. Liking Ole isn’t a good enough reason.
why?
All those people moaning few weeks ago at us who were not celebrating Villarreal win much. It was horrible performance, lucky win and showed what to expect in games to come.
He shouldn’t be sacked after that, Leicester are a good side, but questions should be asked now.
Give him till January, but even then it may be too late.
Questions should be asked about coaching/tactics, can we get better coaches in to help out.
Ronaldo, Pogba are going to be asking these questions, so I expect the board will too
This is by far the best united squad in almost a decade and we play like this.
He wouldn't be better than either. SAF struggled before he retired.
I think anybody who thinks this is knee-jerk has their head in the sand. The feeling has been around a whole lot longer than 7 games, it's just that more people are becoming outspoken about Ole as manager. I love Ole to bits but he's not the right man for the job. It's so plainly obvious at this point you would need to have just learnt about football to think he stands a chance of steering us to the top. It's either going to be a short sharp exit or a long drawn out, and painful departure.
We are absolute mince meat against Liverpool next week, that's for sure.
He won the fecking league in his last season
I feel we’ve gone back to 4/5 years ago when I just felt so sorry for DAVID DE GEA.
Constant worldie saves that kept us in games. This season is the same.
can anyone really tell me what the game plan is? What is the overall tactic? Counter attack? Possession?
Why after 3 years of ole coaching can our £50m right back still not attack confidently?
Constant worldie saves that kept us in games. This season is the same.
can anyone really tell me what the game plan is? What is the overall tactic? Counter attack? Possession?
Why after 3 years of ole coaching can our £50m right back still not attack confidently?
If not changing the manager, then what exactly do you propose is changed at this point?
You fear we may get spanked by Liverpool, but want the manager to remain for this fixture.
I am confused with your logic.
Why stop at January? Give him two more years. Ole is bigger than United for some of the crowd so not surprised there.
Yes probably the worst PL season there has been. We were miles behind teams internationally, often being totally irrelevant in the CL. Now the PL has improved, competition is too good now.He won the fecking league in his last season