It literally came down to that one moment. Liverpool arguably deserved to win the league that year, luck just wasn't on their side.
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Ole can only scrap for top 4, we won't see a team challenging for major honours. He wins games based on individual brilliance. Bruno was the main man but since the arrival of Ronaldo, Bruno decided to take a back seat. We see him drifting to the right to cross. He is a great crosser but why is he there? Because Mason can only cross with his left and AWB can't cross. Why do you buy Sancho if you plan to play him on the left? Why do you buy VDB for 40 million pound and decided that he should warm the bench? Why do you throw in McTominay when you need goals? Why wouldn't you put in Cavani? Ole is way out of his league, he is lucky that Glazer funded him a decent squad. I think those mid table managers can accomplished far greater success than Ole given these talents. Let's swap managers, Ole likely battling relegation and the one probably decent enough to be top 6.
In terms of goals conceded they have the best defence in the Dutch league so far this season having conceded two goals in nine games. In his four previous full seasons he had the best defence twice and the second-best defence the other two times.
In terms of goals scored they also have the best attack in the Dutch league so far this season having scored 32 goals in 9 games. In his four previous full seasons he had the best attack all four times.
In terms of goal difference they've been the best in all four full seasons so far as well as this season. Starting from 17/18 their advantage over the second best in those terms was: +8, +15, +9, +40 and (after just nine games this season) +20.
And if you like xG as a stat:
So in terms of the type of manager he is there's not much to dislike. Plays very attacking and stylish football, strong defensively, uses younger players, coaching & process focused, ready to make the step up to a big club (as opposed to being past his best like a couple of previous hires we made).
There's risk to every manager though and with him it's how he steps up to a big club like United. The fact that he got Ajax to a CL semi-final is a positive indicator but it would be wrong to say there isn't risk involved.
If he succeeded he's probably the manager with the biggest upside though given how his team plays.
We're on the verge of collapse, and Ole inners would rather go down with the ship, rather than change manager "because they're not the right fit in their opinion".
Yeah, let's wait to go out of CL and miss top 4, so we can be an even more unattractive option to both players and managers, just because top reds said so.
Yeah, let's wait to go out of CL and miss top 4, so we can be an even more unattractive option to both players and managers, just because top reds said so.
TBH if Zidane won't come then I'll take Conte. Just came off winning Seria A. Or Ten Hag ideally.
Knowing our luck Ten Haag would turn out to be as good as Frank De Boer at Crystal Palace.
If we go to a hire permanent manager then Conte is probably my first choice with Zidane a close second. If we go the interim route then Blanc makes a lot of sense, or possibly Mark Hughes.
This is the big problem, we could be out of the title race and Cl by 3rd November..
Yes, it did. With a better manager it would not, and they would have won it. Thank god Rodgers was in charge.
You really think a DM and magically our team will play better. I doubt with Kante, we can even challenge. Let Ole take a stab managing City or Liverpool, I am pretty the football will be bad.
There was a Dutch poster that explained the differences between the two and why he's not like FDB
The only thing we should fear is hoping the next manager is the perfect fit.
In terms of worrying about whether it’s an upgrade on Solskjaer as an all round manager, I honestly don’t think we have anything to worry about. We’re replacing someone who’s spent most of his career in Norway and when he did step into a major league, he fails and gets relegated and more importantly what’s worse, he didn’t look good in the second tier either. If people are making Lampard comparisons, at least Lampard got to a play off final and almost got promoted with Derby. That’s what Solskjaer should have been doing with Cardiff
Hes our Roy Evans. Hovering around 3rd and 4th but never really in the title race. Hired because long standing affinity with club. Evans looked insignificant next to Ferguson and Wenger much like Solskjaer next to Klopp and Guardiola currently. Small chance he could fluke a minor cup. Has built a squad of good players but underperforms with them (shocking looking back at 90s Liverpool how they didn’t win more with good players like McManaman, Fowler, Owen, Berger etc in their ranks)
In terms of worrying about whether it’s an upgrade on Solskjaer as an all round manager, I honestly don’t think we have anything to worry about. We’re replacing someone who’s spent most of his career in Norway and when he did step into a major league, he fails and gets relegated and more importantly what’s worse, he didn’t look good in the second tier either. If people are making Lampard comparisons, at least Lampard got to a play off final and almost got promoted with Derby. That’s what Solskjaer should have been doing with Cardiff
Hes our Roy Evans. Hovering around 3rd and 4th but never really in the title race. Hired because long standing affinity with club. Evans looked insignificant next to Ferguson and Wenger much like Solskjaer next to Klopp and Guardiola currently. Small chance he could fluke a minor cup. Has built a squad of good players but underperforms with them (shocking looking back at 90s Liverpool how they didn’t win more with good players like McManaman, Fowler, Owen, Berger etc in their ranks)
Totally disagree. It was an achievement for Rodgers to get that team so close.
Can we get both Ten Haag and VDS from Ajax?
I don't want Conte. It will be another Mourinho appointment.
I don't want Conte. It will be another Mourinho appointment.
You can't plan for gerrard slipping. It's just one of those things. Same with Terry.
Three different Ajax fans on the Ten Hag/De Boer comparison:
Erik ten Hag, Roberto De Zerbi, Graham Potter, Zidedine Zidane.
Someone from that bracket would the right move.
Someone from that bracket would the right move.
Ten Hag won't come mid season and we need a change now. Not after an year.
Nothing wrong in trying but if can't switch I will prefer Conte.
Nothing wrong in trying but if can't switch I will prefer Conte.
Get Conte now on an 18 month contract. If we're convinced Ten Haag is the man going forward, then just sack Conte in the summer.
We don't mind paying stupid compensation for managers anyway.
Go get Blanc…he would be a decent option, give him 18months then look to get Poch or Ten Hag
No need for that. Just tell him that we are not signing the players he wants, and he would resign ASAP. He is one manager that resigns when stuff is not going well or disagrees with the board, rather than waiting to get sacked so he can get millions.
I’m not saying that. I’m saying that you cant conceed 50 goals if you wanna win the PL. Not 49 either. That team lacked balance. A better coach would have fixed it and they would have won the league that year. Even with Gerrard slipping.
Get people who know how to play football in.
Get Ten Hang and his coaches in.
Get Edwin if it's at all possible to replace Woodward.
Get Ten Hang and his coaches in.
Get Edwin if it's at all possible to replace Woodward.
Haven't they all just signed new contracts?
Agree - I really like Hassenhuttl and Potter. But both needs a strong recruiting team working for them. Rose won't leave Dortmund now. Enrique won't leave Spain. Poch might leave but going by his PSG stint, I am not sold on him. Ten Hag also won't leave Ajax mid season (worth trying though)
Conte and Zidane are the obvious ones though.
Ten Hag for me. Before Barca swoop in for the sexy bald bastard.
Lack of a decent option to replace Ole ? Seriously? I would take atleast 10 managers from EPL now. He is that clueless now.
Nothing wrong with that too. I mean, we arent a charity organization to give everyone whatever they need. If you can't produce results, just get out. Actually, giving average managers more time than they need , is the reason why are in this state.
How's Galtier ? Any Ligue 1 watchers?
@JPRouve is probably the best one I know.
@JPRouve is probably the best one I know.
Keep in mind that he challenged for the title with Agger, Skrtel, Johnson and Enrique as his starting 11 defence. For all his shortcomings, he's twice the manager Ole is, and would certainly challenge for the title if he had this United squad.
Wenger anyone? If we are looking for a short term .
Why the feck not, at least until the end of the season. Literally anyone who can bring us a semblance of identity on the pitch will do over Ole and his clueless staff.
Would probably be better than the four faltus we've had.
Keep in mind that Ranieri won it two years later with Fuchs, Morgan, Huth and Simpson! Ranieri won because he know how to organize a team and a defence.
And for all the flaws of that squad, they had a few good and very talented players (Suarez, Sterling, Sturridge, Coutinho, Henderson, Gerrard).
The two "proven" managers in terms of winning trophies we've hired did at least win a trophy or 2 for us and had clear styles (even if the style was unpopular), the two "young and learnin" managers didn't/haven't won anything and neither's side has any discernible identity.
We need another proven manager, either in terms of trophies or a clear style of play compatible with United.
We need another proven manager, either in terms of trophies or a clear style of play compatible with United.
I would go for Zidane. Ronaldo and Varane played for him and he might be able to build a midfield that involves Pogba.
I am also a huge fan of Luis Enrique. But I don’t think he could consider given the state of our midfield options. There isn’t one midfielder he would play from our current bunch imo.
Ten Haag and Potter seems interesting choices but not sure if they would be able to manage the huge egos in our dressing room today
I am also a huge fan of Luis Enrique. But I don’t think he could consider given the state of our midfield options. There isn’t one midfielder he would play from our current bunch imo.
Ten Haag and Potter seems interesting choices but not sure if they would be able to manage the huge egos in our dressing room today
Galtier is a good defensive coach, he turned ASSE, Lille and now Nice into solid defensive teams regardless of talent. But I haven't seen him do anything else and I don't think that he is suitable for any team that is supposed to dominate at the top. Though in the 90s he could have been one of the top Serie A managers.
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How old are you?
Sir Matt Busby (look him up
) played for both City and Liverpool. Do you think the club shouldn’t have appointed him?Ernesto Valverde is free.
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