So 90 percent saying sack now. Am I remembering wrong or did it take very, very long for that consensus to occur with any of our last three managers? Surprised, pleasantly, to see the fanbase uniformly agreeing on this.
Ole Sack Watch
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Do we think we will get to a point where the fans turn? Did the Chelsea fans turn on Lampard, who's a club legend also, but was out of his depth?
Are they still singing the Ole song despite out current "performances?"
I think if this was a manager with no history to the club, they would have at least started to turn
Are they still singing the Ole song despite out current "performances?"
I think if this was a manager with no history to the club, they would have at least started to turn
So what are you saying? he's getting sacked shortly?
So neither sacked nor walked. Amazing. And here people are citing what Bayern did to Kovac. Funny.
It wouldn't be so bad if there was at least enough intelligence there to wait until the result is assured.
Belting out Ole's at the wheel 20 minutes in and the game turns into the biggest clusterfeck of the season. So embarrassing.
That's what could go wrong.
Not that I recall. The difference was the ruthlessness of the owner and the ambitions of the club.
It’s not gonna happen, agreed. Wishful thinking.
None of our managers post-SAF survived this long and spent this much without winning anything, and none were less experienced. It’s never been this clear cut that we need a change.
He came in with big question marks about his credentials and three years in, and ~£450 in transfers later (not including “free” players like Cavani and Ronaldo), we actually seem to be getting worse.
I can’t believe that Nuno’s spurs, who are supposedly a shambles, and who have already faced Arsenal away and both City and Chelsea at home, are actually above us in the table 
This is Spurs who we’ve outspent for years, whose superstar and main striker is completely out of form, and who hired their 78th choice manager.
This is Spurs who we’ve outspent for years, whose superstar and main striker is completely out of form, and who hired their 78th choice manager.
Surely Brighton is the more unexpected one.I can’t believe that Nuno’s spurs, who are supposedly a shambles, and who have already faced Arsenal away and both City and Chelsea at home, are actually above us in the table
This is Spurs who we’ve outspent for years, whose superstar and main striker is completely out of form, and who hired their 78th choice manager.
I guess so. There’s just been so much misery around Spurs in the past few weeks, negative outlook among the fans, some really bad performances, and just lots of negative press…and they’re above us in the table.
I think everyone expects Brighton to fall off sooner or later.
The team Ole has at his disposal anything other than winning competitions is a failure. The top four argument is redundant given this squad. Ole either makes use of the resources at his disposal or he will squander it.
Below Spurs now. The fecking shame of that.
The first thing is to add another cm with in a 433
But I don’t think there will be changes, he is really slow in understanding all the developments
But I don’t think there will be changes, he is really slow in understanding all the developments
It’s really not though, look at the volume of deadwood we had to get rid of before having to pretty much strengthen every area except GK and LW.
It was a huge rebuild, thanks to the mess left by ‘better managers’
The imbalance your referring to this season in particular is brought about by signing three starting 11 players and needing them to hit the ground running, on top of the ever present issue of Pogba/midfield due to the fact we were forced to sign Ronaldo instead of the DM we’ve needed for two years.
G Nev mentioned this a few weeks ago, not that I agree with him all that much recently.
Look, the start this season hasn’t been good enough anyway, I’m not denying that. But the rebuild has been done well for the vast majority.
In all of his time here public backing hasn't just been for show. They mean it, they won't pull the plug after that renewal. Is this even close to our worst runs of form? The delusion at our club's board level is strong. It's not a fluid situation or anything, they firmly believe they have the right guy.
With the form we're in Spurs or Everton look more likely to clinch 4th. Forget about trophies.
Chanting his name during the match doesn’t mean wanting him to stay on as manager. 90% of people have voted for him to get sacked, you think none of them are match going fans. More attention should be paid to fans post match reactions and comments.
I am another who cannot believe they extended Ole's contract. Its not like another team were going to come in and steal him from under our noses.
Lampard got sacked before fans really had the time to turn on him like us with Ole, I think.
What should've happened here, but evidently the board is hanging Ole out to dry. I mean yes, it would be great if Ole just realizes this job isn't meant for him and resigns, but we would ideally be already looking out for a successor. (which I highly doubt is happening right now)
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For the club, chanting his name is 100% showing support to him. They don't give a crap what is posted on Redcafe!
I think it'll be done in the next international break. Depending on how ugly things turn out against Liverpool, City and Chelsea.
It was the same with Moyes. The stretford end were, at least vocally, deluded right to the end about him.
If we lose to those three then yes.
I'm an Eagle Scout but I don't remember that policy. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be enforcing it myself.
December.
I must say, I really like the headline (or what ever you call it).
Honestly doubt he's getting sacked anytime soon. He will be continue to be bailed out by individual moments of brilliance. The next run of wins and everyone will move past this. The cycle of football.
November 1st....
2022.
2022.
We have to get through a spell with Liverpool, Tottenham, City, Chelsea and Arsenal over about 6 league games.
If we get a "run" of wins out of that we'll all be amazed.
Chelsea is the other side of the international break.
He’ll be sacked at the point when the season will be unsalvageable.
Jose didn't finish behind the high press but rather finished behind a coach who implements a possession heavy play style backed by a nation state.
Both LVG and Mourinho were backed heavily in the transfer market and were backed more than any other coach who was non nation state backed. Especially Mourinho who bought 2 CBs but still wanted a 3rd which was correctly turned down imo. And the transfer committee isn't dominated by accountants but rather people like Lawlor and Court who were Fergies guys and Marcel Bout who has been a match analyst under Jupp Heynckes at Bayern, who is a legendary manager and valued Bout's knowledge on breaking the game down when it comes to analysing the opposition.
And no those same things aren't true with Ole at all because Ole has shown a willingness to work with a newly formed recruitment structure and as a result our squad is much stronger. We probably need a better coach but the squad and the youth coming through hasn't been this strong for well over a decade.
Sacking managers is never good but it also shouldn't become a obsession to think that the manager is the be all and end all. The management side of the football club should imo be handled by people who are independent from the first team coaches. We do now have a recruitment structure which can do that, so sacking coaches shouldn't be seen as much of a big deal as it once was. Bayern can sack their head coach mid-season , appoint the assistant coach and still go on and win the Champions League. And they can do that because they retain control of their recruitment department due to having personnel dedicated to working on the football side of the club, people like Salihamidzic and Marco Neppe just to name two.
I think the club is actually serious about keeping him almost no matter what. I think we're in for a long ride. I expect him to see the season out and if we're in 4th, another year.
I honestly don't think any team should send out a manager to start a season on his last year contract. If you want a change you do it and pay the money it costs. If not, you extend.
Ole kind of deserved not to be sacked so the extention was expected.
And I do not think the money it will cost to sack him now, is going to be the thing that makes the club keep him. They will keep him because he is easy to handle.
But the club needs to start looking for the replacement... and that is a challenge Im happy not to be in charge of.
I feel dirty voting in this poll
He had one year left on his contract. Lots of managers are on rolling one year contracts. It's not like it is with players who can leave on Bosman's. Besides, there was ZERO risk of him being poached by anyone. It's just another layer of the multifaceted stupidity that is rife in this company, I mean, football club.
A sacking is miles off, I actually think Ole will end up resigning before he gets sacked.
Ole is a good guy, and will not let things get toxic, so he will only let it go so far, whereas our owners don't know where the line is.
Ole is a good guy, and will not let things get toxic, so he will only let it go so far, whereas our owners don't know where the line is.
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