She definitely over did the Plastic S.
Newcastle United now owned by the PIF | PL receives "legally binding assurances that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will not control NUFC" ;)
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I'm still surprised the Saudi's didn't go for a London club. Palace, Fulham?
Fulham's owners are massively loaded, not oil money loaded, but still. No idea about Palace.
I wouldn't be surprised if Newcastle fans being so desperate for their owners to sell played some part. Look at the way geordies have embraced them, would that of happened with any other club? Ideal pr.
You need to buy an electric car and a push lawnmower rapid like so
Also bring another 140 million people with you while you are at it...
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Probably to do with current stadium size and future ability to extend. That’s why Newcastle were so unique, they’ll have to at least pretend to follow FFP and to walk into a team with decent overseas fan base and a 50,000 seater is a blessing in that regard. I think they have ability to extend to 70,000 as well.
That’s shocking albeit completely expected at this point. It’s just one big boys club, entry requirement is simply to be richer than the last guy who joined.
How do you combat/resist sportswashing? Like, we have signs everywhere against racism. Which is right and proper. Should the FA introduce a symbolic gesture to demonstrate how influencers like footballers utterly reject murder as a means of political advancement? Should journalists and places like Caf associate the names of victims with clubs?
I would say that that is unbelievable, but at this stage the corruption is rampant and it's expected. They are hardly even bothering to cover it up any more. In football and government and business it's all the same. If anyone thinks that it's stoppable they are sadly mistaken.
He's right though. I don't think most football fans give a toss as long as it increases their club chance of being succesfull.
Safe to say Bruce won’t be in charge next week,apart from the 1st 5-10 mins they were awful.
Hope they lose every fecking match, get relegated and the Championship clubs don’t have none of their shit.
£350bn to try and convince millionaires to live in South Shields to play Luton
£350bn to try and convince millionaires to live in South Shields to play Luton
The fans see it as, "if they don't buy us, they'll just buy another club in the league and that's another team we will get battered off every season till we get relegated"
We all know its corrupt, if there is nothing to hide then why block the reports?
PL is utterly shameless, I hoped that the bubble would've burst with tv deals etc by now but it's only gonna worse.
Say what you like about Bruce the manager, but the man doesn't deserve the grief he's getting.
PL is utterly shameless, I hoped that the bubble would've burst with tv deals etc by now but it's only gonna worse.
Say what you like about Bruce the manager, but the man doesn't deserve the grief he's getting.
Really hope every club puts in an obscene effort to beat them each week and get them relegated.
That'll put a major spoke in their regime.
That'll put a major spoke in their regime.
They can change manager but can’t get anyone in until Jan at earliest in playing side. Who of any great quality is going to want to move to north east in middle of January to take part in relegation scrap?
Think someone said earlier in this thread or another one,Newcastle getting relegated could be the best thing to happen to them. Total reset and start again.
They'll pay through the nose to get some players, they have to. If they do that and change managers they'll survive no problem I think.
It would be hilarious if they got relegated and I hope it happens. I'll celebrate.
50+1 is the best method.
But that would make EPL less competitive as only the biggest marketed clubs would be the ones making bank, people from outside of UK wouldn't know about the existence of Chelsea and ManCity if it wasn't for Abramovich and Abu Dhabi.
That leave us with only Man Utd and Liverpool making bank in England(based on historic profile and marketing), therefore they would be mostly dominating english football.
I would love to see them relegated, be even better if Bruce then takes over a Championship side and gets promoted before them
TV deals will never burst, english football fans can boycott Sky and so.
But you know who will never stop watching EPL games?
People outside of England who watch the EPL(and paid a subscription to their cable operator), and don't give a crap who owns the clubs in english football...and they are millions of people btw.
India,Japan,South Korea,United States,Qatar,UAE,Saudi Arabia,China,Australia, South America,Mexico,etc
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There's no way that getting relegated is any sort of plus now they have this money.
Otherwise, maybe.
They won't burst, but they've shown signs that the money has topped out now.
As I’ve been saying the other clubs are going to do everything to stop them doing a City:
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A big clue
'The hostility among Premier League clubs to the Newcastle takeover was underlined on Monday when they voted through legislation designed to prevent the Saudi owners from striking lucrative sponsorship deals'
'But the clubs pressed on with the vote and it was passed with 18 votes in favour and only Newcastle against. Manchester City abstained'
What a surprise.
Don't know how this would even work. So doesn't this also make many of City's existing sponsorship deals against PL Law?
(Of course we all know they won't lift a finger against them).
(Of course we all know they won't lift a finger against them).
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The UK government do tons of business with Saudi Arabia, why would football be any different at the end of it all? I work out here - still waiting to see my first Newcastle top. Stay tuned.
I agree. Arsene Wenger pointed this out years ago when he repeatedly and publically spoke about Manchester City's inflated sponsorships.
If there is to be a move against Newcastle doing the same, what is to be done with City's existing sponsorships?
Talk about pulling the draw bridge up... You'll probably find Newcastle will do sponsorship deals with companies from some other country not directly Saudi anyway...
Read this just because I was curious about what City’s vote would have been. Not surprised at the result
My thoughts then are how enforceable this could actually be, should a law like this get passed? Would there not be workarounds like signing deals with companies that aren’t directly linked with SA? Like say, MBS asks a friend not related to SA to buy Newcastle’s naming rights for 100 million per season, and he in turn will sign some sort of deal with them worth that same amount of money or something like that.
Is the place as backwards as the media rhetoric would have you believe over here?
Is this article wrong then to say United have been sponsored by the Saudi Government?
https://www.themag.co.uk/2020/04/ma...th-deals-wheres-the-outrage-newcastle-united/
https://www.themag.co.uk/2020/04/ma...th-deals-wheres-the-outrage-newcastle-united/
could be argued that city's sponsorship deals aren't inflated now and CAS ruled that eithad deal wasn't a related party
Pure whataboutism.
Probably not but it's not funding the whole club and isn't the main sponsor.
I think that article would have been better looking at other gulf state deals on the likes of how Emirates have stand and shirt sponsorship of other high profile teams and the lack of outrage.
Be funny to see if these teams reject the over inflated transfers for their fringe players in January
Not enforceable because strict laws govern business related parties and these apply regardless of what other clubs vote for. (cartel laws may be invoked against the others).Read this just because I was curious about what City’s vote would have been. Not surprised at the result
My thoughts then are how enforceable this could actually be, should a law like this get passed? Would there not be workarounds like signing deals with companies that aren’t directly linked with SA? Like say, MBS asks a friend not related to SA to buy Newcastle’s naming rights for 100 million per season, and he in turn will sign some sort of deal with them worth that same amount of money or something like that.
City, despite repeated attempts by others have demonstrated their sponsorship was neither related parties nor inflated. I know that doesn't play into some people's narrative but they are the facts.
Newcastle have to decide how far to take this in the courts. We would win of course but the time taken and the publicity may make us seek other avenues.
Final point. If this is about sports washing (a stupid phrase) it isn't working. If anything it is highlighting the issues. The main driver here is diversification of the financial portfolio for once the oil is gone. The investment group is investing big time in renewables. The north east is building that capacity also. Seems a natural match up.
And??
Searched the forum and found no stone being thrown at your own glass House (no pun intended)
There's an astronomical difference between being sponsored by Saudi-based companies and being owned by their sovereign wealth fund. It's irrelevant to the conversation of Saudi's owning Newcastle and is just a cheap embarrassing tactic used by Saudi-apologists (probably an influx of Newcastle fans now).