Premier League Gameweek 9

Liver_bird

Full Member
Joined
Jan 6, 2015
Messages
6,684
Location
England
Supports
Liverpool
Brighton are a completely different proposition without Bissouma. Not that it would have made much difference in this game mind.
 

Bulldog United

New Member
Joined
Feb 18, 2019
Messages
1,226
Location
Liverpool
fecking hell. So much for no easy games. Liverpool City and Chelsea have easy games every week.

As much as it's sickening it really shows what we are doing wrong
Liverpool are at least a level below the Oilers and Gasers.

Which is at least some good news, I can't stomach them getting to 20 this season. To be already thinking in terms of the Oilers and Gasers stopping the scousers, it's crushing really.
 

laughtersassassin

Full Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2014
Messages
11,435
Liverpool are at least a level below the Oilers and Gasers.

Which is at least some good news, I can't stomach them getting to 20 this season. To be already thinking in terms of the Oilers and Gasers stopping the scousers, it's crushing really.
Liverpool are right up there unfortunately. Try nit to let it piss me off too much cause if we are going to incompetent and keep Ole then it's our own fault.
 

Bulldog United

New Member
Joined
Feb 18, 2019
Messages
1,226
Location
Liverpool
Liverpool are right up there unfortunately. Try nit to let it piss me off too much cause if we are going to incompetent and keep Ole then it's our own fault.
They lack the depth of the other too, so they need a lot of luck with injuries, and AFCOM is going to seriously hurt them. Yeah I'm clutching at some straws here. It is largely our fault, and I think it's definitely time we made a change at the top. We should absolutely be in a title race this season with our squad.
 

DoneDaDa

Full Member
Joined
Jun 5, 2019
Messages
620
Location
Canada
Supports
Toronto FC
I am confused now. Foden seems to have been involved with everything.:confused::(
From what I saw on Reddit looks like deflected off him hence goal credited to him, but they may review it but so far that’s why it probably got rewarded to him.

Edit: looks like was a deflection Jesus got assist.
 

Zaphod2319

Full Member
Joined
Oct 23, 2020
Messages
4,209
Supports
Chelsea
They lack the depth of the other too, so they need a lot of luck with injuries, and AFCOM is going to seriously hurt them. Yeah I'm clutching at some straws here. It is largely our fault, and I think it's definitely time we made a change at the top. We should absolutely be in a title race this season with our squad.
We play them again during AFCOM. Really not upset Salah, Mane, and Keita will be missing.
 

FatTails

New Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2021
Messages
1,859
City again playing with a box-to-box (Gundogan), a 6 (Rodri), a winger/attacking midfielder (Silva) in midfield.

Is Rodri that good? If we were to drop Rodri into our team, would we be able to play him with Bruno (attacking midfielder) and Pogba (box-to-box)? I rarely hear anyone raving about him…
 

DomesticTadpole

Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.
Joined
Jun 4, 2011
Messages
100,974
Location
Barrow In Furness
From what I saw on Reddit looks like deflected off him hence goal credited to him, but they may review it but so far that’s why it probably got rewarded to him.

Edit: looks like was a deflection Jesus got assist.
I put Foden for the second goal, then Sky said it was an OG, so I presumed it was that one. They move so quick I lose track of who is doing what.
 

Jaxa

Full Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2011
Messages
2,928
Location
Old Trafford
It’s really depressing how far off we are as a team to the likes of City, Pool & Chelsea,

It’s night and day sadly and hilarious to think some of us (I included) though we might, just might have a sniff of challenging for major Trophies this season,

Another worry is I can’t see us making up the difference in 1 year with our current set up and I’m not talking about the players
 

Ludens the Red

Full Member
Joined
Jul 27, 2009
Messages
17,463
Location
London
It’s really depressing how far off we are as a team to the likes of City, Pool & Chelsea,

It’s night and day sadly and hilarious to think some of us (I included) though we might, just might have a sniff of challenging for major Trophies this season,

Another worry is I can’t see us making up the difference in 1 year with our current set up and I’m not talking about the players
it really was…
Don’t feel bad though, football fans are always eternal optimists especially on here. But yeah it is actually laughable to even think Ole would pip out klopp, pep and Tuchel to trophies, genuinely laughable.
 

Adisa

likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt
Joined
Nov 28, 2014
Messages
50,361
Location
Birmingham
Watching our rivals is always so depressing. What the feck is wrong with this club?
 

Leftback99

Might have a bedwetting fetish.
Joined
Jan 11, 2015
Messages
14,304
City again playing with a box-to-box (Gundogan), a 6 (Rodri), a winger/attacking midfielder (Silva) in midfield.

Is Rodri that good? If we were to drop Rodri into our team, would we be able to play him with Bruno (attacking midfielder) and Pogba (box-to-box)? I rarely hear anyone raving about him…
He's very good but a big difference is how hard the other two work and how secure they are on the ball. Pogba and Bruno don't have that.
 

Orton

Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button
Joined
Feb 24, 2006
Messages
18,977
Location
bonnie wee Scotland
City again playing with a box-to-box (Gundogan), a 6 (Rodri), a winger/attacking midfielder (Silva) in midfield.

Is Rodri that good? If we were to drop Rodri into our team, would we be able to play him with Bruno (attacking midfielder) and Pogba (box-to-box)? I rarely hear anyone raving about him…
If we put Rodri in our team he would look hopeless, as he would have nobody to pass to other than people behind him. City players are forever on the move. They know where the balls going before they receive it.
 

padr81

Full Member
Joined
Dec 12, 2015
Messages
11,925
Supports
Man City
City again playing with a box-to-box (Gundogan), a 6 (Rodri), a winger/attacking midfielder (Silva) in midfield.

Is Rodri that good? If we were to drop Rodri into our team, would we be able to play him with Bruno (attacking midfielder) and Pogba (box-to-box)? I rarely hear anyone raving about him…
Rodri works because of those around him. He's a different beast when Foden, Jesus, Bernardo (in particular in midfield) are on the pitch because our press is so good. I think Rodri would struggle at United because the team aren't cohesive enough around him defensively (no proper press, wingers don't work hard enough, midfield don't work hard enough). Every City player works for one and other defensively (which is why people used to get so mad at post injury Gundogan being paired with him and why we struggled so much in his first season.) When the team don't function as a unit, all individuals look far worse.

He had a tough start to life in England because he was forced to play probably the most important role in our team with a struggling Gundo before he could adapt to English football. It was no coincidence we really struggled and Liverpool ran away with the title.
 

Desert Eagle

Punjabi Dude
Joined
Sep 25, 2006
Messages
17,056
It’s really depressing how far off we are as a team to the likes of City, Pool & Chelsea,

It’s night and day sadly and hilarious to think some of us (I included) though we might, just might have a sniff of challenging for major Trophies this season,

Another worry is I can’t see us making up the difference in 1 year with our current set up and I’m not talking about the players
One managerial appointment and it can all turn around.
 

PoTMS

Full Member
Joined
Dec 15, 2016
Messages
16,374
It’s really depressing how far off we are as a team to the likes of City, Pool & Chelsea,

It’s night and day sadly and hilarious to think some of us (I included) though we might, just might have a sniff of challenging for major Trophies this season,

Another worry is I can’t see us making up the difference in 1 year with our current set up and I’m not talking about the players
It's literally the coaching. Our squad is every bit as good as them.
 

MackRobinson

New Member
Joined
Dec 30, 2017
Messages
5,134
Location
Terminal D
Supports
Football
Seems to be happening quite a lot for Brighton. Potter was schooled against Palace, very lucky to come away with a point.
Really can’t believe what I was watching. They have no chance trying to play thru City with a high line. There are no bravery points for inane tactics.
 

Ish

Lights on for Luke
Joined
Mar 10, 2010
Messages
32,139
Location
Voted the best city in the world
City again playing with a box-to-box (Gundogan), a 6 (Rodri), a winger/attacking midfielder (Silva) in midfield.

Is Rodri that good? If we were to drop Rodri into our team, would we be able to play him with Bruno (attacking midfielder) and Pogba (box-to-box)? I rarely hear anyone raving about him…
Rodri is really good, yes. It took him a season or so to settle into England but he’s been really good for them, but put him in our midfield and he’ll still be exposed, especially on the counter and it’s not because of him, it’s our tactics.

That entire city team are coached to press and compress the field/suffocate the opposition and their attackers work as hard as any other attackers in the league in retrieving the ball. None of that really happens (or happens in a fluid/synchronised manner) with us.
 

Powderfinger

Full Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2015
Messages
2,220
Supports
Arsenal
He's very good but a big difference is how hard the other two work and how secure they are on the ball.
Yup, that's exactly right. The don't lose the ball very often high up the pitch in bad situations. They also play with a lot of positional discipline in attack, which allows them to have a system for immediately transitioning into contesting the ball high up the pitch when they do lose it (and fouling of course). Even if they don't win it back, this buys them an extra couple seconds which allows them to be much better at defending counters. If your attackers have license to go virtually anywhere in the final third, then when you lose the ball there is no predicting where they're going to be so you can't have much of a system for starting to defend in those moments.
 

Adisa

likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt
Joined
Nov 28, 2014
Messages
50,361
Location
Birmingham
He's very good but a big difference is how hard the other two work and how secure they are on the ball. Pogba and Bruno don't have that.
It's not because of how hard the other two work but how organised City are as a team.
The whole team's press is absolutely spot on.
 

Orton

Ati-virus, keeps missing the n button
Joined
Feb 24, 2006
Messages
18,977
Location
bonnie wee Scotland
It's literally the coaching. Our squad is every bit as good as them.
It must be right? Look at Chelsea’s defence for instance. On paper our players may be better but as a unit, as a team, they all work hard for each other and it’s the same with the rest of these teams and why we struggle with too many strong individuals and a weak leader.
 

adexkola

Doesn't understand sportswashing.
Joined
Mar 17, 2008
Messages
48,336
Location
The CL is a glorified FA Cup set to music
Supports
orderly disembarking on planes
They lack the depth of the other too, so they need a lot of luck with injuries, and AFCOM is going to seriously hurt them. Yeah I'm clutching at some straws here. It is largely our fault, and I think it's definitely time we made a change at the top. We should absolutely be in a title race this season with our squad.
Liverpool will only have 2 games during AFCON. If Senegal/Egypt crash out early, then Salah/Mane will only miss 1 game.
 

Teja

Full Member
Joined
Aug 17, 2014
Messages
5,769
Still have a soft spot for Potter. Bit unlucky today with how they setup in the first half and how good City are individually.

Playing some good stuff now.
 

mu4c_20le

Full Member
Joined
Jul 7, 2013
Messages
43,409
It must be right? Look at Chelsea’s defence for instance. On paper our players may be better but as a unit, as a team, they all work hard for each other and it’s the same with the rest of these teams and why we struggle with too many strong individuals and a weak leader.
Chelsea play a back 5.
 

SirReginald

New Member
Joined
Oct 7, 2019
Messages
2,295
Supports
Chelsea
It must be right? Look at Chelsea’s defence for instance. On paper our players may be better but as a unit, as a team, they all work hard for each other and it’s the same with the rest of these teams and why we struggle with too many strong individuals and a weak leader.
In defense? I’d take Shaw and no one else. Rudiger is better than Maguire, Silva is better than Varane and Christensen is better than Lindelof. James is also head and shoulders above AWB.
 

Dancfc

Full Member
Joined
Oct 28, 2016
Messages
7,406
Supports
Chelsea
Liverpool will only have 2 games during AFCON. If Senegal/Egypt crash out early, then Salah/Mane will only miss 1 game.
Players will be leaving after the boxing day games.
 

padr81

Full Member
Joined
Dec 12, 2015
Messages
11,925
Supports
Man City
Terrible start to the 2nd half by City. NIght and day from the first half.
 

AltiUn

likes playing with swords after fantasies
Joined
Apr 29, 2014
Messages
23,582
In defense? I’d take Shaw and no one else. Rudiger is better than Maguire, Silva is better than Varane and Christensen is better than Lindelof. James is also head and shoulders above AWB.
Balanced views from the resident Chelsea fans, as always (this is sarcasm).
 

Orc

Pretended to be a United fan for two years
Joined
Dec 17, 2012
Messages
5,322
Supports
Chelsea
Balanced views from the resident Chelsea fans, as always (this is sarcasm).
I mean, is he wrong? I don’t think anyone other than United fans would disagree with that.

Edit: saw the stealth edit