Looks like Oe is going nowhere soon so we are stuck with him and his 30-year project. So what can he do to balls up and change United's fortunes? A few suggestions Harry is no captain give that honor to Ronaldo. Drop those players of form trust your squad. Play Sancho, we have no creativity in the midfield unless 1 in 3 Paul plays and that is usually 1 in 3 games anyway so we can't afford 3 individual forwards. Take a leaf out of the great Moyes book and watch that cross-a-lot game against Fulham and cross the bloody ball to the greatest header of the ball the world has seen. McFred does not bloody work change it try that Dutchman why not. 3 years in and this is getting worse. Ole needs to grow a pair and change. Otherwise, Ronaldo's last seasons will be played in if we are lucky in the Europa League.
Ole stays what does he need to do?
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Get proper coaches in asap and leave all to them.
resign
As a fan base we need to not accept him staying and support the club in its acceptance of mediocrity.
All well and good Gary Neville complimenting the match going fans saying they will never turn on Ole but ultimately that is the problem. He is a convenient shield for the board as no one will question the last of challenging.
I refuse to contemplate what he needs to improve as that only adds to the narrative of accepting he is still here.
Ole out now.
All well and good Gary Neville complimenting the match going fans saying they will never turn on Ole but ultimately that is the problem. He is a convenient shield for the board as no one will question the last of challenging.
I refuse to contemplate what he needs to improve as that only adds to the narrative of accepting he is still here.
Ole out now.
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Stop playing 424 would be a start.
Get top 4, win a small trophy, and then leave.
On the tactical front, he may as well move to a back 3 if he can't get us defending properly and figure out who can play at RWB.
On the tactical front, he may as well move to a back 3 if he can't get us defending properly and figure out who can play at RWB.
Delete this. He has to go no matter what.
Expecting any sort of tactical revolution isn't realistic so we need to go back to basics. No more pressing. Sit deep with everyone behind the ball and play on the counter. Drop anyone who cannot follow these simple instructions and decides to go on a one man pressing mission.
The problem with ole is that he doesn't think he's doing it wrong. If he indeed has that insight he would have improved long before he managed United.
It's not like this is his first rodeo, he's been a manager for 10+ years. If he has that "continue improvement and learn from better people mentality" he would have hired them 3 years ago. For the past 3 years nothing is improved other than we're getting better player. So if he can't learn anything new for 3 years, giving him another 5 won't matter.
It's not like this is his first rodeo, he's been a manager for 10+ years. If he has that "continue improvement and learn from better people mentality" he would have hired them 3 years ago. For the past 3 years nothing is improved other than we're getting better player. So if he can't learn anything new for 3 years, giving him another 5 won't matter.
He needs to step down and admit defeat, simple has, and never will be good enough unfortunately.
It's funny how some felt he would walk away due to his love for the club whereas his post-match comments clearly indicate the opposite. Managers dont walk away, they dig their heels in and try their best to convince everyone that they're on the right track.
What can he possibly do that he hasn’t already tried? What has he not been doing this last three years that he can start doing now? Honestly it’s hard to imagine.
This isn’t about formations or line ups. It’s much more fundamental than that. As a coaching unit his team are simply not good enough. It means that whatever plan they come up with they won’t be able to execute it.
This isn’t about formations or line ups. It’s much more fundamental than that. As a coaching unit his team are simply not good enough. It means that whatever plan they come up with they won’t be able to execute it.
This is what should have happened 4 weeks ago. It baffles me that nothing has happened.
Ole has missed the key ingredient to the saf style and that’s making sure that your coaches are best in class.
If the board can't pull the trigger on Solksjaer or, even more terrifying, think he's doing an acceptable job then they are the ones who need to go.
He needs to do so many stuff it's actually painfull to name them all....
And the reality is, he won't do any of them so its kinda redundant to name them.
Easiest and most moral thing to do was to resign after yesterdays humiliating defeat - had the perfect chance to save face, recouperate what is left of his legacy and go with some grace...
He failed that simple task.
To discuss anything he can do to turn this around is mind blowing.
There isn't anything he can do.
The only thing to be done is on the board, and that is to sack him. With imediate effect.
And the reality is, he won't do any of them so its kinda redundant to name them.
Easiest and most moral thing to do was to resign after yesterdays humiliating defeat - had the perfect chance to save face, recouperate what is left of his legacy and go with some grace...
He failed that simple task.
To discuss anything he can do to turn this around is mind blowing.
There isn't anything he can do.
The only thing to be done is on the board, and that is to sack him. With imediate effect.
He’s going to go ultra defensive and stick with his trusted players.
What he should do is play a system he can get the coaches to get the players to follow. He's an advocate of 443, so we’re probably best off with playing that. Cavani up top as he’ll work his bollocks off for the team as his first selection.
What he should do is play a system he can get the coaches to get the players to follow. He's an advocate of 443, so we’re probably best off with playing that. Cavani up top as he’ll work his bollocks off for the team as his first selection.
The fact he’s not already gone tells one everything that is rotten at this once-great club. Been supporting them all my life from the late Busby-era, saw them relegated, then the glory years again under SAF. Seen a LOT of managers. Ole isn’t the answer.
Sad.
Sad.
First things first, he should extend contracts of McKenna and Carrick ASAP. We need to retain our hugely talented coaching staff lest some big club come to poach them.
Problem with that no one is convinced though. Truth is he just isn't good enough for the job. He needs to go back to lower clubs and try and work back up. The United job to big for him. We've had quite a few ex United players go into management and not one of them have been successful.
We’re way beyond that point now, his position is becoming untenable. Why do we have to watch us get another pasting off City before the board reacts? Just fecking do it now before too much damage is done.
Win games and play decent football. It’s not hard to say what needs to happen. People are acting as if we hate him as the person he is, it’s simply down to results and what’s currently happening at the club.
Yeah, playing 12 players does seem our best bet at the moment.
Something that he wont do it.
Take captain of Maguire and upgrade if he crumbles, give Laird a chance or get a better footballing RB, probably sign Rice, let Pogba go and play Rice, Bruno, Donny/Fred in a 433. Play Sancho more, use Mason as the second CF.
Get rid of the coaching staff, and get some actually good and experienced guys in. And beg Pep and Klopp to educate him on what tactics are.
Get rid of the coaching staff, and get some actually good and experienced guys in. And beg Pep and Klopp to educate him on what tactics are.
Not even sure that would make any difference!
Yea, the whole "we're too close to give up now" comment was a weird one. Close to what exactly? Worrying that the board don't act and just remove him. There isn't a football fan around who doesn't know he is out of his depth now.
We still concede goals.
Play compact counter attacking football. He needs to focus on defence.
I hope he leaves though because he just stinks of failure and it is depressing. A new manager would give Utd a lift.
I hope he leaves though because he just stinks of failure and it is depressing. A new manager would give Utd a lift.
What stage is bargaining?
Start managing the squad he has, rather than the one he would like to have.
Defend deep and counter. Don't be trying to press with this squad. Don't be expecting Maguire to move like Usain Bolt. Don't be expecting Wan Bissaka to play out like Dani Alves.
Choose a style and approach that compensates for our weaknesses, not one that exposes those weaknesses!
Defend deep and counter. Don't be trying to press with this squad. Don't be expecting Maguire to move like Usain Bolt. Don't be expecting Wan Bissaka to play out like Dani Alves.
Choose a style and approach that compensates for our weaknesses, not one that exposes those weaknesses!
He won’t be sacked! The club are only interested in how many likes our social media accounts will get this month!
Yeah I think people need to understand that management is skill-based. You can't just will yourself to become as good as a Pep Guardiola. It's like hoping and praying for Ole the player to be surrounded by better people to hope that one day he'll magically reach Luis Ronaldo's level.
This. At least stick with what you're good at. I'm not even sure what he's trying. Pressing, half pressing, expansive football?
Also managing the squad. It's clear that Shaw and Maguire need benching. Yet he persist with them.
The same team which played terribly vs Atalanta 1st half starts again vs Liverpool. Its madness to repeat and repeat those kind of things.
I imagine he thought we were incredible just because we finished 2nd. Or maybe the EL was the holy grail for him.
He should sign up for the caf and make another Ole thread
Just contrast Barca's reaction to a 2-1 defeat vs ours for a 5-0 defeat. What the feck is our board even thinking at this point? Not sacking him is paramount to mental harassment for the fans at this point. FFS, even Moyes was openly booed when we lost 3-0 to Liverpool at OT. And now the fans have a sort of Stockholm Syndrome where they are still singing and cheering and becoming numb to the humiliation as if we've been programmed to not boo Ole.
The likes of Neville do not help. Any half rational 'expert' would see the hapless, out of sorts, incompetent manager that we have and ask them to be replaced. FFS, Everton sacked Marco Silva on the back of a 5-2 defeat against Liverpool. For it to even be a debate is a standard of the depths we've sunk to and if Ole doesn't go now, we would be touching Blackburn and Steve Kean type of delusional lows, from which there is no coming back.
The likes of Neville do not help. Any half rational 'expert' would see the hapless, out of sorts, incompetent manager that we have and ask them to be replaced. FFS, Everton sacked Marco Silva on the back of a 5-2 defeat against Liverpool. For it to even be a debate is a standard of the depths we've sunk to and if Ole doesn't go now, we would be touching Blackburn and Steve Kean type of delusional lows, from which there is no coming back.
Play cavani