This is the way cabinet members of a third world country defend their incompetent pm.
Gary Neville was dead to me | Reborn as a Dragon
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
If they can't speak truthfully I'd like that. I don't watch much of the punditry anyway tbh. That's why stuff like the Kick Off is much better because you don't have a bunch of mums and dads of the managers/players sat in the chair muffled by their overwhelming bias.
When your mate has nothing useful to debate on the topic, so brings in dickish arguments and statements...
Why not just say something like…
“Personally I’ll always support Ole, and I think the squad foundations he has laid at Utd from what he took over are solid. But to see the pain the club is in atm and the fanbase hurting is not good. Whoever is in charge of Utd I’ll support them”.
I mean, how hard is that to do?
To be naming names and actually criticising Conte BEFORE HE’S GOT THE JOB is so far over the line it’s crazy.
Just think - after that performance yesterday, he criticised Conte rather than Ole…
“Personally I’ll always support Ole, and I think the squad foundations he has laid at Utd from what he took over are solid. But to see the pain the club is in atm and the fanbase hurting is not good. Whoever is in charge of Utd I’ll support them”.
I mean, how hard is that to do?
To be naming names and actually criticising Conte BEFORE HE’S GOT THE JOB is so far over the line it’s crazy.
Just think - after that performance yesterday, he criticised Conte rather than Ole…
Our next manager is Terry who won us a CL as well
Hey man that's totally uncalled for. No need for Chelsea to be catching stray bullets in this brewing civil war.
Why does he want to die on this hill?
This is embarrassing. Utterly embarassing.
He has lost it.
Ole on the wheel leading us to fall off the cliff and his buddies still defending him.
It's nice of him to defend the manager but it also means he's a giant hypocrite.
At Salford he sacks managers for fun but he's telling us okay maybe Ole's time is running out but we need to wait till the end of the season.
Well I doubt Ole can turn this around, if this was a one off like Spurs last season than fine but we've been awful since the second game of the season and if we want to finish in the top 4 the club needs to act now.
At Salford he sacks managers for fun but he's telling us okay maybe Ole's time is running out but we need to wait till the end of the season.
Well I doubt Ole can turn this around, if this was a one off like Spurs last season than fine but we've been awful since the second game of the season and if we want to finish in the top 4 the club needs to act now.
Not all class of 92 are bellends but you cant deny that a few of them are. This whole sitting on high horse, "you respect us for what we have done!", "you know nothing!" despite the fans have sung their names and idolizing them back then is disgusting. The fans dont owe any of them anything anymore. Their views arent the most correct ones, in fact theyre often blinded by their emotion and not logic. Shut up Gary. Ole has done a bad job this season, no need to bring up his past as an excuse. Defend your mates that are doing a shit job to the detriment of your beloved club (plus millions of average fans). Hypocrites. Saying only what needs to be said to maximize their gains.
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What a clown. To wheel out, pun intended, the fact the Ole scored that goal as his defense for not calling out his mate who has sunk the ship is utterly pathetic.
What a wanker
And it’ll be fecking hilarious if we do go for Conte and he ends up winning major honours. Our Gary is shit scared of doing a Hansen “you’ll never win anything with kids” moment.
Because he is an ex-footballer with little baggage upstairs. The nepotistic, pretentious nonsense he spouts is transparent to anyone with half a brain.
I’m no psychologist but many of former players come across as extremely narcissistic and unable to admit they might have been wrong or are not best placed to make opinions. Their uncontested belief they know best and they deserve undisputed respect leads to embarrassing moments like yesterday, I’m sure Gary is not taking it lightly to he laughed at like this on the TV.
Gary is taking heavy stick on Twitter for his mindless argument associating Ole’s role in the CL for United as the reason to stand by him now. Not sure what he’s on about in referring to the Johnson era. Surely he must be aware that politicians have been lying through their teeth since the days of the pharaohs.
I normally can't stand Simon Jordan, but he's speaks well here, and he's right.
It’s really refreshing seeing Carragher imploring Neville to see sense. I’d have been impressed if Gary had taken stock of what Ole has done for the club since Jose and then said he’s not sure if he can take us any further.
Sadly he seems blinkered and probably needs a sit down with Sir Alex going by his reaction yesterday…
Sadly he seems blinkered and probably needs a sit down with Sir Alex going by his reaction yesterday…
Oh my God. I'm an Indian and the way our PM is defended by trolls is the exact manner in which Neville defends Ole. Right down to the constant whataboutery, the revisionism about Jose and LVG being world class when he recruited them, the hypocrisy of sacking managers as an owner and taking a stand towards sticking to managers as a United fan. In a fair world, he would be sacked for being biased or out of his mind as a pundit. But he's just generating more outrage which means more moolah for Sky.
It's so easy for Gary to come out and support Ole while he supports the club. Just admit Ole has done really well but it seems that he can't take it any further. Ole himself knows this is the end for him, you could see it yesterday.
I don’t know what you lot want him to say?
He’s never asked for a manager to be sacked in his punditry career, he isn’t going to start just because you lot keep whinging. What he said in the post game chat yesterday albeit not directly, was about as critical I’ve seen him of a manager.
And if you don’t understand his reference to the government in his tweet, then you are probably a part of what he meant.
He’s never asked for a manager to be sacked in his punditry career, he isn’t going to start just because you lot keep whinging. What he said in the post game chat yesterday albeit not directly, was about as critical I’ve seen him of a manager.
And if you don’t understand his reference to the government in his tweet, then you are probably a part of what he meant.
Not contradict himself by indirectly criticizing the managing/coaching of the club after directly trying to pull it away from that. Simon Jordan said something earlier (god I know...now I'm agreeing with Simon Jordan bloody hell) where we're all quite happy to criticize players on their quality, yet with managers/coaches we're skirting around the subject? It literally couldn't be more obvious from our start this season where things are going wrong, so directly address it/call it out and sort it the feck out.
I am Pakistani and I was referring to Pakistani PM.
Gary Neville is the most important Manchester United fan in the world. Whatever he says will instantly become the minted truth about the club. Until he says the words 'Ole out', the board won't even consider the manager's future because they Neville's declaration is the only thing that will move the needle.
Yeah this isn’t true, he never said Jose out and he was sacked.
I think that is Dante's point.
Love it! An Indian and Pakistani bonding over the incompetencies of their respective PMs
Only possible because of United's horrible performance. Give Ole the Peace Nobel PrizeLove it! An Indian and Pakistani bonding over the incompetencies of their respective PMs
It would’ve been funny if it weren’t so tragic. But I can completely relate to Jibbs. Propaganda has a pattern in its tools and methodologies as our respective countries witness and Gary Neville’s points regarding Ole are exactly what we see in our daily politics. His tweet regarding United fans asking for scorer of that goal to be out is deliberate and emotionally manipulative. Shame on him.Love it! An Indian and Pakistani bonding over the incompetencies of their respective PMs
It is just semantics. If you criticize the way a team plays, the selection, the methods the team employs, the lack of planning, etc etc.., you are saying the manager and coaches are not doing their job or are not good enough.
Only possible because of United's horrible performance. Give Ole the Peace Nobel Prize
some positives after all.Shut up Gary, you’re seriously embarrassing yourself.
Same.
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Oh dear.
Wow. Living in a world where Piers Morgan speaks sense and whips Neville.
What a ridiculously weak point he’s making. Losing the plot.
What the feck is even Neville talking about? "Decency"? Should the board give Ole the job forever because it'd be hurtful to sack him? If a manager is not up to the task, he's out. Period. There is no place for sentimentality here. This isn't kindergarden.
He has lost the plot