Conte really wants it doesn’t he 
Would you take Conte at United?
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People overlook City/Liverpool barely giving up anything to anyone at the back.
Give it two years tops and I guarantee there are 'Conte out' articles on here and the 'football is boring' articles.
Not in favour of Conte at all really. However there is one positive about hiring him. There's potential for him to use Joel Glazer as a human punch bag when things go sour as it always does for him. That I would pay to see.
Not in favour of Conte at all really. However there is one positive about hiring him. There's potential for him to use Joel Glazer as a human punch bag when things go sour as it always does for him. That I would pay to see.
Unfortunately I can see us hiring him cause there is no way we are paying Oles severance package AND paying Ajax for their manager. We are cheap. We will sack Ole and hire Conte.
Mata, Mourinho, Matić, Lukaku and possibly Conte - hopefully it would work out better with Conte if we hire him than with most of other ex-Chelsea employees we've had over last decade.
Matic has worked with him:
“He is crazy about football. He works 24 hours a day, analysing his players and opponents to the fullest. Tactically speaking he is certainly one of the best in the world. His teams need to run at the same tempo for 95 minutes, he is a professional and one of the best in the world. He will do great things for Inter, I am sure of it.”
“He is crazy about football. He works 24 hours a day, analysing his players and opponents to the fullest. Tactically speaking he is certainly one of the best in the world. His teams need to run at the same tempo for 95 minutes, he is a professional and one of the best in the world. He will do great things for Inter, I am sure of it.”
Sounds like he wants a long contract and not more money. I hope we stick to our guns and try to get him on a 2yr deal - no one better in the world we can have than Conte on a relatively short contract.
The appeal of managing United with Ronaldo, Pogba, Bruno, Varane, Sancho - no chance he's going to turn it down. Prove yourself and get the longer contract in the summer.
Why do we always go for out of contract managers only? We'll be in the same position with Conte as we were with Mou in 2 years time.
We aren’t built for high press but I don’t see why a good manager couldn’t make us better in possession. The fact is that while I’m not the biggest fan of pure possession football it’s proven to be the most effective football system for winning trophies time and time again. In different forms, City, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea have all had significant success by dominating the ball and controlling games through having the ball. We have some incredibly talented players particularly on the ball but they are made to look far worse than they are in our frantic style. Someone like Conte might come in and do pragmatism well, but if Ten Hag works he would make us one of the footballing elite for years to come.
New squad needed then…why did conte sell matic? Was it his choice?
Conte is way more attacking then Tuchel anyway. Stereotyping because of Italian vs German though.
I mean, it kinda can get worse. You lose your next 2 and even getting that 4th spot will start to feel nervy. You don’t want to be double digit points behind each of the top 3. Leicester are starting to kick into gear as well.
How do we even line up with Conte as manager? Just doesn't seem to really fit, especially mid season.
No he wanted to keep him. Chelsea board sold him and bought the younger Bakayoko which was a mistake.
Sounds like he is desperate for it. Not too sure about this appointment, just do not feel the squad we have will suit his strengths and will be left with another mess to clean up. I would rather wait for Ten Hag or take a risk with someone like Potter.
Oh I think we are pretty much guaranteed to lose our next two unless the "gift of new manager bounce" loves us. I'm fine with punting the next two games if it means we are left in a better position to perform for the rest of the season. I don't think the squad will be in any shape to perform well until this run of games is over
They may be similar in that they’re both excellent tactically, but they’re nothing alike personality wise.
Bruno is a hard worker and a great player. The season is long. He'd pretty much rotate 343 and 352 I'm sure - and in either case Bruno can adapt to being a #8 which he's done in the past (and compete with Pogba) or the #10 in a 352. In which case we play 2 attackers and likely leave out Sancho. Competition for places is good. In this case, we have Bruno and Pogba fighting for a spot, Bruno and Sancho, Sancho and Rashford and Greenwood, Ronaldo/Cavani rotating, etc. The players who fit best and work best for Conte would be picked. Why does it matter who? There's no way that everybody can fit in anyway, we need a manager who will make it work however which way and not give in to big names unbalancing the team by shoe horning them where they don't belong.
I mean pedantically speaking, Moyes and Ole were still at their respective old clubs when we decided to poach them. LVG was still the Holland NT coach too IIRC.
Same as Mourinho? It was heavily rumoured that he was prepared to take over from Van Gaal as early as February/March - despite never having previously joined a club mid-season. Presumably because of how precarious CL qualification was looking.
Bruno plays far too high up. Maybe that's what we need who knows?
Conte's not wedded to any one system is the key. He adapts to the squad. So all this about x y z players are going to miss out is total guesswork.
I hope he comes in and rips the Glazers a new one, the crazy Italian bastard.
I was pointing to a certain point in his post regarding Conte's way of dealing with contract renewals. I didn't talk about his relationship with Pogba.
As for the title, I actually do indeed have no doubt in my mind he'll win us the league within 2 years. I'm ready to bet whatever you want on it.
Oh god it's going to happen isn't it...
Only thing I'd take solace in is that Conte could 100% win us the league with this current squad.
It would be a very short term run though since he absolutely would not last long under this board, he'd physically assault one of the money men when they speak about their plans for the club before the end of it
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Only thing I'd take solace in is that Conte could 100% win us the league with this current squad.
It would be a very short term run though since he absolutely would not last long under this board, he'd physically assault one of the money men when they speak about their plans for the club before the end of it
This man takes no prisoners ! For this reason i cant see the glazes employing him, i hope we do though as it will be funny to watch him
When have we signed the absolute best players in their peak? The only one would be Di Maria.
RM spent big money on Figo, Zidane, Beckham, Ronaldo and Owen in their first era. Then went on to sign Kaka, CR7, Benzema, Ozil, Di Maria, Modric and Bale for record fees in their second era.
Now they are reportedly in for Mbappe and Haaland. We have just been paying overblown fees for good to very good players since a while now.
How credible is he?
My guess is he would play either a 433 or a diamond to start (it's fairly commonly used in Serie A, so I'm sure it's a set up he's familiar with).
With a view to switching to a back 5 after a transfer window or two. We would certainly need a couple of specialist wing backs. I wonder if there are even any quality wing backs who would be available in January, or if we'd have to wait until summer. If we had got him in the summer we might have had a chance at signing Hakimi who would be perfect...
Ole needs to go but Conte is not the answer. I have a feeling he would alienate players like Sancho and Greenwood which should never happen...
It would be interesting to see how your midfield would play for Conte, if they play like they have for Ole, whew it may get ugly.
This season or next? Why do people think changing managers is like changing the person behind the controller and expect instant results
Well, if you actually watched football, you would know that Conte is nothing like Mourinho. Absolutely not even close to him.
With Ten Hag probably not wanting to leave Ajax before the season ends, plus United not being keen to pay for rest of contract to Ole and pay to Ajax to take Ten Hag away; Zidane seemingly not fancying Premier League job,everything is pointing towards Conte now.
So people actually look at Ajax in the last 3 years and Inter last year and conclude we must play like Inter? Or is it the trophy cabinet?
If it’s because of mid season then secure your best possible manager and worry about interim manager later. The problem is that soon we are going to find ourselves behind Liverpool, City , Chelsea, Newcastle. Do we really fancy ourselves against those teams with Conte?
If it’s because of mid season then secure your best possible manager and worry about interim manager later. The problem is that soon we are going to find ourselves behind Liverpool, City , Chelsea, Newcastle. Do we really fancy ourselves against those teams with Conte?
Fits pretty easily tbh.
De Gea
Lindelof Varane Maguire
Wan Bissaka Pogba Fred Shaw
Bruno
Ronaldo Rashford
Lindelof Varane Maguire
Wan Bissaka Pogba Fred Shaw
Bruno
Ronaldo Rashford
Swap any/all of front 3 for Sancho/Cavani/Greenwood depending on games. Matic rotate with Fred, sometimes alongside him I'm sure. Pogba in a midfield 2 except with a back 3 behind him, so more security. Bruno has played as a #8 enough in the past to adapt if we go 3-4-3, but he'd compete with Pogba for that spot next to Fred or Matic I'm sure. The back 3 and Shaw are comfortable selections.
Regardless, there is no system that gets Sancho, Bruno, Rashford and Ronaldo all in together unless Bruno adapts as a true CM. There is no system that gets 1 attacker on top of those in. There's no system that gets Bruno, Pogba and 3 attackers in. That doesn't work and Conte likely wouldn't even try. It's 4 of them total at the max, whoever the coach.
That's the "United way" sure
Exactly, Simeone, Conte, Allegri, in his prime Mourinho. All very successful managers. All their success built on rock solid defences. You cant lose if you dont conceed.
He’s definitely not averse to dropping a winger into those wing back roles. He’s done it with Candreva and Moses just off the top of my head. Hes also played Darmian there regularly for Inter and Italy, so there’s no reason why AWB couldn’t work despite his obvious limitations.
I personally think Adama would be the perfect signing for that RWB position.
Also think it should be explained again why Conte‘s stints haven’t been working out for longer than a couple of years. There’s this wide perception that he some sort of angry demon who just explodes out of nowhere for no reason, falls out with all the players, and then loses the dressing room. That wasn’t the case at all here at Chelsea and certainly not at Inter. Juve I‘m not sure about.
What happened at both Chelsea and Inter was all about his ambitions and the clubs’ not lining up. He’s asked for certain players to be bought (he specifically wanted both Van Dijk & Lukaku here) and at Inter their owner decided to blow his team up after he won them their first league title in ages. He wanted to push on and improve the side.
Our supporters still loved Conte after he was sacked and still chanted his name. Think the Inter players were devastated he left as well.
At United he’d be walking into the best starting position (in terms of personnel) that he’s ever had. Conte with this squad + a new midfielder and a more polished attacking RWB and you’re golden soon enough. Maybe just not this season.
What happened at both Chelsea and Inter was all about his ambitions and the clubs’ not lining up. He’s asked for certain players to be bought (he specifically wanted both Van Dijk & Lukaku here) and at Inter their owner decided to blow his team up after he won them their first league title in ages. He wanted to push on and improve the side.
Our supporters still loved Conte after he was sacked and still chanted his name. Think the Inter players were devastated he left as well.
At United he’d be walking into the best starting position (in terms of personnel) that he’s ever had. Conte with this squad + a new midfielder and a more polished attacking RWB and you’re golden soon enough. Maybe just not this season.
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